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Opioids 17 Days free of Methadone (How long to feel normal?)

Don't go near any Suboxone at this stage - that would be utter madness and set you right back.

You got this. You are handling this. Just put one foot in front of the other, a day at a time. I'm battling away myself and know how hard it is. Your body is learning how to function without opiates again. At least it can do that. Some people's bodies are shot with severe health problems and will never relearn how to work properly again. To have another shot at a functional life is a gift. Keep battling.

Alright, alright, I get it. I've never been in this situation. The closest I was to be rid of ORT was when I was reducing my methadone intake (rather easy to do when you really wanna do it) down to 39mg then they inducted me with suboxone 48 hours later, 4mg at first etc.

In retrospect I should have just continued to reduce my methadone dosage. At those dosage (40mg and less), it probably stopped messing with my testosterone and cortisol levels, but there was no quick way for me to know. Suboxone sucks so bad, just sucks less than high and very high dosages of methadone (just really bad your heart for and hormones). I'm going to request to be switched back to methadone and then continue to reduce that way. It is very easier to get rid of than suboxone. At least at the rhythm I was going (3mg less every 2 weeks).
 
Fatigue, appetite, and hormones are coming back, but still not very exciting as the most uncomfortable symptoms such as stomache discomfort, waves of relief/withdrawals, cold chills, uncomfortability, anxiety, hand/feet clamminess, sneezing 30x a day, and etc are still around.

I feel like i have 30 days left until 90% normal =/


You should be on the upswing as far as feeling better i would think...
Like I posted previously, for me the withdrawal cold turkey was about 30 days, the first 2 weeks was the roughest. At the point you r at now I was able to sleep, not a whole night straight through but with waking several time during the night. MUCH better than the first two weeks where I would wake up and SWEAR hours had gone by, only to discover it was only 15 minutes :(. Those were bad nights

Are you improving, even slightly, over where you were say, last week? IME, after the first 30-32 days I felt much better. Try as best as you can not to dwell on it. I don't think it will take you another 30 days to start feeling close to normal. What were you at when you last dosed? How long were you on it?

The sneezing fits stuck around for the first 2 months. Even when I felt just about "normal", I would have a 10-15 sneeze attack. Idk why...

Best thing you can do is get some exercise...gets the blood flowing, helps improve your mood...just go for a walk, that helps a lot. And don't keep expecting to feel bad or you'll talk yourself into it. I didn't realize back then how long methadone detox was (I had only had experience with H detox), and after a week I couldn't understand why I felt that bad still...and I was locked up so I couldn't research it. In a way, it was good because I had no expectation of how long I would withdraw...

You are through the roughest part. From here on out you will feel better not worse so stay with it...
 
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^awesome post man. Thanks for the support and encouragement. I would say the first 14 days were almost the same, with little improvement. If i took the worst the withdrawawls would get and give it a baseline of 0% back to normal, after 14 days, all the sudden one morning the symptoms were slightly better, and i would guess I improved to 20%. In the following 7 days i would say that increased to 35%, and the last 7 days i would guess that's gone to 50%.

Now, hopefully my recovery continues to speed up, or atleast remain constant. I'm going to create a graph to include in my OP for people to see when they find this thread while searching for the answers i wanted.
 
Considering I IM'd 15 80's (old formula NAPP's) today (~5-8hrs ago, dont remember exactly), I KNOW I am going to be on methadone for life (not that i plan to live longer than 6 months, tops).

Yesterday I sniffed 400mg oxy, 400mg sublingual (let the pills melt under my tongue).
at the same time I was wearing a 100mcg fentanyl patch for ~28hrs or so.
at the same time I was smoking a patch of 100mcg of fentanyl.
the same day I had taken 120mg of methadone.
and You want to know the truth? I felt a high I used to feel off of 480mg of codeine :( :( :(

THATS how awful my tolerance has become.

at least I have oxycodone 80mg to sniff/sublingual/IV/IM, 100mcg fentanyl patches to smoke/wear, morphine hydrosulphate 60mg/ml vials to IV and 30mg IR morphine tabs to also IV/IM/sublingual. Not that they make me happy in ANY way, but at least I have something for the last months of my life other than a shitload of rare benzos and a shitload of methadone.

(rare benzos meaning brotizolam, nimetazepam, temazepam (not sold in EUROPE!), triazolam, midazolam and of course all the usual suspects diazepam, alprazolam, clonazepam, lorazepam, bromazepam and a few that i cant even remember off the top of my head right now.

daily regiment of benzos for me is:
45mg midazolam (to help me fall asleep)
10mg lorazepam (to get me through the day)
7-10mg alprazolam (to get me through the day)
6-8mg clonazepam (to get me through the day)
0.5mg-1.0mg triazolam (to help me fall asleep, again (same night))
0.25mg-0.5mg brotizolam (to help me fall asleep for the third time during the night.)
~200mg diazepam (to help me STAY asleep/just because its the benzo with the longest half-life and as a typical addict, i am DEATHLY afraid of ANY type of WD although I have THOUSANDS of these fucking pills, i still fear that someday, somehow they are gonna be ALL gone and then at least the diazepam thats built up in my body over the 8-10 years of benzo abuse will help me stay alive for the next 24-48hrs until i can find new benzos for 100usd/1mg xanax if necessary (although i know it will never come to that, i get them more for 0.1usd/20mg xanax).


There's my story. PLEASE dont tell me im dicksizing or trying to "show off". I have had enough of that on this forum.

I am giving You, Bluelighters, HONEST, EXACT info on my tolerance and daily medication regiment so You can reply with HONEST, EXACT info and replys. :)

I am VERY sorry if I triggered someone off of methadone with my bitching about my AWFUL tolerance but I had NOWHERE to turn to. :(
 
^Well, what exactly is your question here? And why did you choose this thread, am I missing something, did you ask a question in another post?
 
How's my first/original post look everyone ?

Tyler why are you claiming you won't live longer than 6 months ?? I knew opiates are depressing but there IS life after opiates! Idk what post you're referring to, but this thread is just for understanding the length of methadone withdrawal, though feel free to post if you need support.
 
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Lope (immodium) is also an opiod, and though it doesnt cross the blood brain barrier very well, i'm not taking any chances that could possibly delay my recovery further.. hahah. I'm paranoid.


All true, and indeed if you start taking very large doses of loperamide daily, it will stop all withdrawal symptoms, and yes, delay your recovery.

I am merely suggesting you try 3-4 pills one time to see if it makes you feel a lot better, or not. I'm also kinda curious if at this point of not using that amount of loperamide is powerful enough to make a difference, how much you have recovered. I have a friend CTing bupe after more than a year, and it's been a few weeks, similar boat. See my curiosity? Taking 6-10mg one time shouldn't hurt anything.

I've been curious about the effectiveness of loperamide to prevent relapse and treat PWS after acute withdrawal in low doses (just a few mg).
 
Day 29. Felt noticeably less cold w/ less stomache probs upon waking, but who know's if it's temporary. We'll see
 
Day 30! Can't believe i've made it this far. I also can't believe how long this lasts. It's miserable.

Wake up at 7am still, flooded with adrenaline (making further sleep near impossible)

Smoke weed, feel better, then it wears off, start feeling cold/irritable/clammy/leg pains, smoke again, feel better, etc. Constant cycle..

Would never have though smoking weed could be such a chore every couple hours. It just feels like so much work now lol.

Well guys, let's hope i'm normal within 30 more days. Later

Also, i've lost 10 lbs of solid muscle in the past 30 days of a shit diet, barely eating anything, and not working out.

Left pic is 30 days ago about, Right is current..

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Well done and keep going!

Glad you had some muscle to lose in the first place and act as a buffer. Being a small female with not much muscle to start off, since starting my own detox, I've lost a shocking amount of muscle and strength from my legs and arms. It will take me a lot longer than 3 or 4 months to rebuild it!

Your left forearm has grown. Hehe.
 
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Haha nah just looks like that cause of the angle!

Btw everyone, day 36.

Still waking up after 7 hours of sleep (12-7 usually, or if i go to bed at 10, 5am.....)

Still getting shitty ass cold chills, stomache discomfort, anxiety that resembles the assumed feeling of a 250lb opera singer on my chest, irritability, etc. In fact, it was so bad this afternoon that today i forced myself to finally go back to the gym and was glad that i did. Felt shaky, but honestly when im doing things outside of my apt the withdrawals arent so bad, but when sitting around it blows. After the sun sets, the withdrawals die down a bit.

Last night, i had nostalgia about drinking moscotto and playing n64 at my exes, so i bought some moscatto and it made the anxiety and withdrawawls vanish, with some added euphoria.

But, given my situation, and family experience, alcohol has me terrified. Knowing that i have atleast 1-2 more months of withdrawals, i am terrified this feeling of 2 glasses of moscatto (just like wine) will become a habit, so i am going to have my gaurd up ahead of time. I will NOT trade an opiate addiction for an alcohol addiction. I have luckily NEVER had any problems with alcohol yet. Rarely, rarely drink.

Life sucks though. I want to wake up feeling normal.
 
When I came off of Methadone(over a hundred mg.), it took me over 30 days to start feeling normal. I think it was on my 33rd day that I felt an almost complete turn around. I also didn't wean off of it correctly either though because I owed the clinic a lot of money so they reduced me from 10mg a day until I was completely done. Good luck and hang in there, it will get better.
 
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Slightly drunk off the wine/moscotto. As i type im litterally starting to tear up over nostalgia and memories with my best friends that are now all 3 dead through OD's and suicide. Feel like im letting all the built up pain out finally that i've been bottling for years and years at only age 23. Not an emotional guy so this is new for me. I miss my best friends so, so, much, it hurts...
 
You are a true inspiration.

You've got awesome courage. I've recently traded a 60-100mg/day hydro/oxy habit for a very low dose of subs (A 8 mg strip lasts a week). But I'm also drinking 2 liters of vodka a week :( I feel great and energetic and clear headed. I'm even training for another marathon. But I know I'm not ready to get to where you are at. I'm too much of a wimp.

I can't imagine a full kick like you. How are you functioning at work?

Again, congrats on your recovery, you are stronger/ more stubborn than most of us.
 
You are a true inspiration.

You've got awesome courage. I've recently traded a 60-100mg/day hydro/oxy habit for a very low dose of subs (A 8 mg strip lasts a week). But I'm also drinking 2 liters of vodka a week :( I feel great and energetic and clear headed. I'm even training for another marathon. But I know I'm not ready to get to where you are at. I'm too much of a wimp.

I can't imagine a full kick like you. How are you functioning at work?

Again, congrats on your recovery, you are stronger/ more stubborn than most of us.

well, i do construction and you have the choice of working or not, so luckily ive been granted the luxury of not having to to work, but still be able to easily get a job when the day comes that I can physically handle it again. HOPEFULLY SOON as i would love to finish my sleeve (tattoo) and get life rolling again.

Even though it's been 36 days, i still feel like shit throughout the day sitting around. I almost think that kicking suboxone cold turkey 2 years ago (with a job) was a lot easier than kicking methadone while sitting around 24/7 for 36 days. Granted i remember the insane depression that came with having to go to work while sick instead of sitting around home, but now that i AM sitting around home on a detox, i think the value that comes with fantasizing about a day off (while having to work) loses its worth when one (me) actually does a detox without having to work. Yeah, it's great that i can sit around 24/7 without responsibilities at 23, but at the same time it's torture that every day is almost exactly the same, with slight variations, day in day out..

I just want what i had 2 years ago, no withdrawals, fun life, and peace. Im beginning to feel like this will never end.
 
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