15th Issue Heroin Discussion v. Be the Death of Me

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^Testing for metabolites is very costly, my Suboxone doctor did it and told me I'd tested positive for "heroin metabolites"....Previously, I had been using the excuse that I had been taking vicodin at work because all my co-workers did.....

the urine test they used was $270 a pop as I recall.....insurance covered it though.....I'd never pay 270 out of pocket for a fucking urine test!
 
I'm not sure how much my parents paid for the drug test, but it was a waste considering I told 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Oops!!!

What I was saying was that I told them what I was going to test positive for (opiates and benzos) and thats what happened. I just tried to dance around the truth by saying it was suboxone that I tested + for but they knew better.
 
BlueHues said:
^Testing for metabolites is very costly, my Suboxone doctor did it and told me I'd tested positive for "heroin metabolites"....Previously, I had been using the excuse that I had been taking vicodin at work because all my co-workers did.....

the urine test they used was $270 a pop as I recall.....insurance covered it though.....I'd never pay 270 out of pocket for a fucking urine test!
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Yeah that is insane.
 
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Haven't been on BL in months because the only way I can not do heroin is to work 24/7 and not think about it. But here I am lurking this thread and contemplating the $600 burning a hole in my pocket :p

But in other news, I'm down to 50mg on my methadone taper. Pooey.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
I'm pretty fucking hard. I shot 4 bags of NJ dope I got here in Raleigh, with no tolerance, and didn't even nod. The next day I sniffed a whole fucking bun of the same dope & was pretty high.


Or maybe I'm not hard, and that shit just sucked :(. Tear tear...
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Man, you sound like me. IDK if it's years and years of a whopping xanax addiction or what but sometimes I don't get high. Or the dope is really shitty. But teenagers and young twennysomethinks are ODing here like crazy. It's gotten so bad out in the suburbs that parents are lobbying for police to carry Narcan packs in their cars at $20/piece, as it may save their child's life.

But the suburbs are not thrilled with the idea because it's encouraging use. Also I heard either the state or the county recently passed a "good Samaritan" rule - if you dial 911 for an overdose, you will not be charged for anything (hiding the stuff is recommended, however.)

I'm such a junkie that....
What I wanna know is where they're finding such OD worthy dope!? LOL Anyone from Naperville wanna chime in? :)
half kidding, I do like that Good Samaritan law...
gwennie
 
Man so sick 2day had to shoot a teen an pop another. Took the edge off an will help me sleep hopefully but gotta drag it til 2moro when I get 2buns then ill be feelin good.
 
Wherever there's a lot of good dope, there's a lot of garbage too....It's entirely possible to get dope that takes a whole bundle to even real get off decently....even more so if you've done a lot of dope in past...

Although I've seen people with not much opiate experience get really high off of two bags whereas, I could barely feel a whole bundle of the same dope...
 
BlueHues said:
Although I've seen people with not much opiate experience get really high off of two bags whereas, I could barely feel a whole bundle of the same dope...
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This. I had a big Oxycontin habit for over a year before switching to IV dope and the only time I've ever felt dangerously high was when I did a bunch of kpins due to anxiety/insomnia a couple days when I couldn't score and despite waiting 24 hours (yeah I know now clonazepam has a 50+ hour half life) the next day when I shot a g I blacked out until the next day. But apparently I was still mostly awake and talking, just don't remember. But I just don't get it when people are talking about how this and that dope is "fuckin fire" and 3gs later I'm just all right. Now with the methadone I get a rush but no high after, despite being down to 50mg on my taper.
 
I was never one to really mix benzos with my dope that often, there was really no need to and I like opiates on their own, but when I did get into that I was walking around for hours and hours in a blackout, somewhat functional but remembering nothing and then coming to with no idea what I had been doing for the whole afternoon! scary shit
 
gwencooper said:
Man, you sound like me. IDK if it's years and years of a whopping xanax addiction or what but sometimes I don't get high. Or the dope is really shitty. But teenagers and young twennysomethinks are ODing here like crazy. It's gotten so bad out in the suburbs that parents are lobbying for police to carry Narcan packs in their cars at $20/piece, as it may save their child's life.

But the suburbs are not thrilled with the idea because it's encouraging use. Also I heard either the state or the county recently passed a "good Samaritan" rule - if you dial 911 for an overdose, you will not be charged for anything (hiding the stuff is recommended, however.)

I'm such a junkie that....
What I wanna know is where they're finding such OD worthy dope!? LOL Anyone from Naperville wanna chime in? :)
half kidding, I do like that Good Samaritan law...
gwennie
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They passed that law here, and have started a narcan program for the police and almost every week there is another story about a person being saved by the narcan. I wish that they made the Good Samaritan law more known, because I don't know any other user that knows about it,
 
BlueHues said:
I was never one to really mix benzos with my dope that often, there was really no need to and I like opiates on their own, but when I did get into that I was walking around for hours and hours in a blackout, somewhat functional but remembering nothing and then coming to with no idea what I had been doing for the whole afternoon! scary shit
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Yeah, benzos and dope together are responsible for a lot of overdoses, fatal and non-fatal.

It's not something to be mixed.
 
Everytime I've ODed, benzos have been involved.


This might seem like a dumb question, but here goes. Twice I've shot dope, been nodding, then I'll be out for a while, and someone comes up & gets me awake because they're worried about how loud/laboured my breathing is. Is that a pretty bad situation? I've always brushed it off nonchalantly, but I wonder how close I was to getting fucked.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
Everytime I've ODed, benzos have been involved.


This might seem like a dumb question, but here goes. Twice I've shot dope, been nodding, then I'll be out for a while, and someone comes up & gets me awake because they're worried about how loud/laboured my breathing is. Is that a pretty bad situation? I've always brushed it off nonchalantly, but I wonder how close I was to getting fucked.
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Nodding that hard to the point you're falling unconscious is never a good thing. Usually, if you're at that point, you're not far off from OD'ing. The line is very thin between super high and nodding hard, and respiratory depression.
 
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