14 + Shrooms

[KeepingThingsReal]

Thanks all, I recognize every single one of your posts in a unique way. And slimvictor I do realize you're only trying to help me, but there's not much fun in life anymore. I'm not very good at instruments, I've always been a vocal person. But now I listen to hip-hop and I can't rap for shit lmao xD. But the thing is, I shattered my elbow back in October. Doesn't seem too bad, but I have the biggest scar you'll ever see, I can't move my arm past about 100 degrees and 45 degrees, and I may NEVER be able to move my arm past that. I'm not allowed any physical activity and I cannot stretch it out because I will tear the tissue.

I feel like a 40 year old inside.

I matured around 4th grade. Not pubescent-maturity, but a new outtake on life. I always wished I was back in Kindergarten where you could do things and they were all so fun.

But yes, I told him we should wait until his parents aren't home. We may also sneak out and take a walk/car ride (don't worry, we're not driving ;P).

Do you guys have any tips for not having a bad trip?

 

[slimvictor]

there's not much fun in life anymore.

Sounds like a bad space to be taking mushrooms.
Bad space, period, but that is exactly the time I personally would not want to do psychedelics.
My heart goes out to you.
If you decide to trip, be safe!

(If you want my advice on avoiding a bad trip, I would say that you should be in a good mental space before you decide to trip, and then be a comfortable physical environment while tripping, ideally with a trusted friend or two. Set and setting.)

 

[IamMe90]

no way. my life is never "fun" anymore. psychedelia is what makes it interesting and bearable (as well as interpersonal relationships, love, and a sense of direction - the latter being very difficult to sustain)

 

[freehugs]

Maybe tripping is just visuals too you, and yeah drinking a tea will give you more visuals possibly- but also more of everything else that goes with tripping. To me visuals are not the part of a trip that stands out the most, even when they're very prominent.

Naw I'm talking about visuals being uncomfortable. They are by far not the only thing tripping is to me.

 

[RandomGuy123]

I think the most wondrous thing is a trip is the thoughts you have.

 

[Jesusgreen]

Well I'm not gonna tell you off for your age, since people do what they wanna do, but I will say -


Chillin' inside is definitely a MUST, especially for your first time. Mushrooms differ from many other psychs in that they aren't lucid at all, meaning you don't have much power over the trip and it can get pretty difficult to function in a normal environment, especially around other people.

I experienced a ++++ (best trip I've ever had to date, helped me find my soul) laying down with a blindfold on a comfy bed in total darkness with my girlfriend [might also mention I used the lemon tek]. This is how mushrooms are truly meant to be experienced - with eyes CLOSED. Open eye visuals on shrooms are extremely secondary to what goes on behind your eyelids. You'll want to make sure you feel very safe and comfortable where you ingest the sacrament.

I'l also mention the lemon tek. It's the ONLY way I take my mushies now. You may not want to do it your first time like many people, but I still strongly recommend it. It rids the trip of much of the anxiety/paranoia in the come up, and lessens body load by a mile. It allows a much more proper psilocybin experience to be had.

Tea is really going to be more trouble than it's worth for first timers, as it takes a bit of experience and finesse to get the process down to produce a worthwhile product.


If you decide to eat 'em whole, peanut butter is the most excellent thing I know of to mask the taste without putting too much stuff in your stomach. Try not to eat for 3-4 hours before the trip as well.

Have fun, be safe, and goob vibes brother.

^ This. I was going to write a post but you said anything and everything I'd have said.

The only thing I'd add is, it can be good to wait, simple because most of the people I know who started taking drugs very young got bored very early on in their life and became those same people you hate now, the people who drink themselves stupid and go on and on about how bad drugs are for you. That might seem unrealistic to you now but it's a definite possibility.

However you seem set on it and I don't think anyone here is going to stop you, so just take Cryptix's advice, make sure the setting is good, have some nice chill music, and also I'd advise having food and drink ready, particularly drink (water is awesome while tripping) as you'll be quite paranoid about making any noise once the trip starts and you really don't want to get caught - getting caught while tripping could be a really traumatising experience.

 

[danceofdays]

Yeah dude, I thought about doing shrooms or acid in high school a few times and decided to wait until partway through my first year of college to drop (and waited on the shrooms until the summer after that). Let me tell you, I'm immensely glad I waited, if I had tripped in grade 10 or whatever I would not have gotten nearly as much out of that first time as I did. Wait until you're at least semi-engulfed in the real world and I'm sure you'll thank yourself.

slimvictor hit the nail on the head about rediscovering childhood, and trust me when I was 14 I thought I was basically an adult, and I was really mature for my age as a kid. if you give it at least a few more years you will truly appreciate the experience that much more.

 

[Bezonian]

Since you're ignoring everyone who's telling you to wait, start low. Eat a gram at first and see how it affects you, it may be enough for your first time. I'd also suggest having a designated sitter for the trip. With hallucinogens, especially if it's your first time, have a sober person to calm you down/reassure you/keep shit safe is extremely important.

 

[iseewhatsnotthere]

9th grade lol. And don't worry I'm not one of those stupid shits or something; I'm 100% honors . You would think this is irrelevant, but I just think smarts shows an amount of maturity, know what I'm sayin'?

You're clearly smart, however, your lack of maturity is pretty blatant. I can tell you this, when i was 14 and smoking weed and maybe popping some CCCs and i sstill had a 3.6+ gpa , I never thought i would have a $200 a day xanax/cocaine addiction at 18 and wind up in inpatient for 5 months.

My point is, you're dealing with your problems in all the wrong ways , you just aren't mature enough to realize that yet.

Since I know you're going to eat them regardless, just eat them straight up don't waste your time making tea, considering you dont have your own house and you can't exactly walk into your kitchen and boil some mucks with your parents sitting there and it does have an earthy smell that lingers after you make the tea . Either that or find some good LSD, much more manageable for a first time, if mushrooms go wrong they go very wrong .

The cosmos has it's ways of nut checking you, which it most likely will . Also, trip during the day. You're 14, you do have a curfew, walking around fucked up on msuhrooms at 2-3 am is not a good idea because of police nor is it safe.

 

[bpayne]

I also want to say that taking shrooms with a friend who has equally no experience in them for both of your first times sounds like a BAD idea, if you Insist upon doing it at all now at 14 then you should find someone you trust who is experienced in tripping who will help "sit" the two of you and make sure everything goes smoothly, your enviroment and set and setting have SO much to do with how the trip turns out it could easily turn badly if just one of these things is not right. Also when I was 14 I use to think I knew everything and was ready for the world,. Man was I wrong turned out I had NO idea what I wanted and was ready for, and what I thought I liked or could handle one day, 2 weeks later my whole outlook was different on. Most 14 year olds are like that so I would NOT suggest trying something as personality modifying as mushrooms or other psychedelics for several years. if you must do something just stick to weed for a while... Either way stay safe.

 

[KeepingThingsReal]

Yes, we are going to have two sitters. We're going to be in the car with my other friend and his brother. His brother is the designated driver and has much experience with tripping, both shrooms and acid. I've talked to many people my age about shrooms they said it's a great experience but not to try acid because that's something you truly need to be 18 for. So I may just do a gram.

And slimvictor, it's not that I'm not having fun in life anymore, it's just that it's getting stale. Monday-Friday school, Friday-Sunday hanging out with friends, repeat.

And I realize that everyone thinks they're matured at their age when they truly arent. But I'm about 99.9% sure I'll be doing well.

Also to the person talking about the grades, I have a 4.5 GPA and 2 extra college credits.

So start out with one gram? What about 2 grams? Do you think that's legitimate, or should I really reeeeally really start out with one gram?

But still, does anyone have advice on getting a good trip?

 

[killermunchies]

From a pure harm reduction standpoint, it's best to wait until you're like 25, when your brain is completely finished developing. But you don't want to wait 11 years and I'm only 19 and have done many different drugs so I know saying to wait until 25 is hypocritical. For 14, you seem pretty mature. You're not one of the people who starts a thread with "im 14 yrs old and i want to eat 10 g's of shrooms before school." You're starting low and are trying to do it in the safest way possible. That attitude is just as important as age. 2 grams of shrooms shouldn't be too crazy, even if they are higher potency. If the experience is underwhelming, you'll have a reference point for future trips. 1 gram, in my experience, would be a waste unless you have way better shrooms than me. As far as waiting until you're 18 to do acid, that's a good idea. Acid tabs vary wildly in potency and you could easily end up in a place you aren't prepared to go.

From reading your posts, you seem a lot like myself. While I didn't start using drugs until I was 17, my attitude was very similar to yours. I always had great grades. I thought I was smart enough to evaluate every risk that came my way. I didn't think I was invincible, but I thought I had it all figured out. The risk of the drugs I did escalated, in both the risk of the drugs themselves and the legal risks associated with them. However, I kept my self in control and out of trouble for a while, until it all crashed down at once. I'm now facing federal charges for manufacturing a schedule 1 substance. If I started at 14, I don't know where the hell I would be now. Just be careful. 2 grams of shrooms won't mess you up too bad, but this lifestyle can if you always think that you can beat the system. Just my word of advise.

 

[kingme]

well id go with saying 100% honors shows maturity is a bit immature in itself. but hey, i suspect youre gonna do it anyway so at least take more time to read about the drugs and the experiences other had to make it special

 

[Liquid Sunshine]

If he is going to do it, he is going to do it and none of our opinions of "You're too young" will ever sway him; wouldn't have swayed me either, now that I think of it. Regardless of my opinion, you are going to do what you are going to do. That being said, hold off until you have a good place to do it, where you are secure to giggle and talk and be loud. Having to be quiet and discreet puts a lot of tension into a trip.

 

[halperdude]

Your too young to understand the profound repercussions of doing powerful psychedelics. When i was your age i was still trying to blow off my hand with bottle rockets, not even smoking weed. It bothers me how young kids are getting into drugs, what ever happened to youthful vandalism lol. Do what you will but try to make it special, also in a place where stripping naked and shouting wont get you in trouble or arrested.

The world of psychedelics is one that not everyone can handle. I suggest you do everything you can to avoid being the "naked mushroom man"

Youthful vandalism much more fun when your seeing dragons flying through the sky and the world is in your palm

 

[cryptix420]

^ sounds like good ol' LSD + K. Lol.

 

[danceofdays]

If you're going to do it anyway I would recommend what I call the "orgasm flip". How's that for harm reduction. Down an eighth of shrooms, put 20mg of oxycodone up one nostril and 4mg of hydromorphone up the other, pop a 0.5mg clonazepam under your tongue, and when you're about to peak an hour later start doing bumps of K and repeat until you can't move and the world disintegrates around you.

That shit was the best I ever felt in my entire life, I haven't repeated the experience because it was too amazing and I feel like I crossed a line somehow. It literally felt like I was having an extended four hour orgasm during the trip, except better, and just as incapacitating as one might imagine. I spent most of it curled up in a blanket on buddy's couch staring at the ceiling with my mouth open.

Also, as many many people have said, if you're bored with life at age 14, tripping ain't gonna fix your problems. When I was 14, jacking off and playing the bass for a few hours a day kept me thoroughly entertained. Between 14 and when I moved out a few years later I smoked buds maybe once every two months or so and that was more than enough, hence why I didn't start fucking around with other drugs until I was an adult (and all that's done is gotten me into amphetamine and opiate addictions). I don't wanna sound like an asshole because I'm not that much older than you, but keep your shit in check kid.

 

[mr.mackey]

Man, an "orgasm flip" seems like a bad idea. Either 4mg of Hyrdomorphone or 20mg oxycodone would probably be more than enough for somebody with no opiate tolerance, and for my body, verging on the boundary of "too much". Also, combining opiates and benzo's with psychedelics is in my opinion, counterproductive. In a similar vein of thought, I have heard that combining Ketamine with opiates or other CNS depressants a very bad idea. Thats some awful advice from a harm reduction standpoint, and I don't mean to sound like a dick, but why give bad advice when you clearly have been around bluelight enough to know the rules?

Not everybody is entertained by playing bass and jerking off when theyre 14, I certainly wasn't. I don't think there is anything inherently wrong or dangerous with tripping at a young age (I first tripped when I was 15, though I would've earlier if I had the opportunity) but it does complicate things a bit. I was relatively mature at that age, as it seems the OP is, I too was also in honors and whatnot and I think maturity and self awareness will be much greater indications of how somebody reacts to psychedelic drugs, or any drugs for that matter, than age. It just so happens that most people are not "mature enough" to understand such an experience until they are older. Hell, some people never reach the level of maturity that I think one ought to have before pursuing psychedelic experiences

All in all, my advice would be to wait until you are completely sure, and I mean completely, because once you eat them, theres no going back, and it is far better to wait than to rush into such a potentially profound experience. I think the fact that you came here to ask us of our opinions shows both maturity but also, more importantly, uncertainty. I say wait until you are certain that it is what you want

 

[cryptix420]

If you're going to do it anyway I would recommend what I call the "orgasm flip". How's that for harm reduction. Down an eighth of shrooms, put 20mg of oxycodone up one nostril and 4mg of hydromorphone up the other, pop a 0.5mg clonazepam under your tongue, and when you're about to peak an hour later start doing bumps of K and repeat until you can't move and the world disintegrates around you.

That shit was the best I ever felt in my entire life, I haven't repeated the experience because it was too amazing and I feel like I crossed a line somehow. It literally felt like I was having an extended four hour orgasm during the trip, except better, and just as incapacitating as one might imagine. I spent most of it curled up in a blanket on buddy's couch staring at the ceiling with my mouth open.

Also, as many many people have said, if you're bored with life at age 14, tripping ain't gonna fix your problems. When I was 14, jacking off and playing the bass for a few hours a day kept me thoroughly entertained. Between 14 and when I moved out a few years later I smoked buds maybe once every two months or so and that was more than enough, hence why I didn't start fucking around with other drugs until I was an adult (and all that's done is gotten me into amphetamine and opiate addictions). I don't wanna sound like an asshole because I'm not that much older than you, but keep your shit in check kid.

Failure.

Also, what the hell are you talking about with this 'orgasm flip'? This guy has never even tried mushrooms, and you're recommending some other extremely addictive/powerfully dissociative substances on top of that? Not to mention I don't know many people who would recommend doing opiates and psychedelics together. It severely dulls the trip.

 

[KeepingThingsReal]

well id go with saying 100% honors shows maturity is a bit immature in itself. but hey, i suspect youre gonna do it anyway so at least take more time to read about the drugs and the experiences other had to make it special

I agree it sounds cocky, but you can't express yourself too well over the Internet. But don't worry I've done tons of research and read about other people's trips.