13th Issue Heroin Discussion v. fuck hope do dope

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mr.scagnattie said:
It's really not that risky as far as danger goes..at least not any more risky than IV'ing anything else. It's incredibly addicting..but, other than that..no different than shooting straight H. But hey, one less crazy speedball freak in the world is a good thing.. so i'm not gonna push to hard. Ha.
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It is actually a bit more dangerous. You are adding an upper to a downer. Speedballing is very bad for your heart. It certainly won't kill you your first time (or first few times) as long as you are safe with your amounts, but it is certainly more dangerous than just shooting dope, maybe not much more dangerous than shooting just coke though.


McHigh_HMG said:
I never had dilaudid over here. 30s are everywhere and i can get d with ease almost easier than gettin weed. I always wanted to shoot a couple.
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You aren't missing much then. They come in low milligrams so unless your tolerance is kinda low they won't do much for you.

Opana 40's were definitely the best pill to ever hit the market. I've done all the heavy duty painkillers and nothing ever came close to opana 40s. Mmm. I loved snorting them, tasted like raw pizza dough.
 
i never shot dillies, just have snorted/plugged mountains of 'em.

and i just tried to get bud, and at this moment it is far easier for me to get heroin and fire mdma than it is for me to get weed. wtf.
 
opanas aren't worth rigging up...trust me. only time i've done that, and it wasn't really better than sniffing.

and argh, that half hour of pure anxiety when you front your connect the money for your dope so they can reup...is absolutely hell
 
ive never had dillys or opana..when i did pils it was all OCs and norcos..i wouldnt evcen know how many of them to take if i could get them
 
you are missing out on the opana thats the only opiate that I like more then heroin. Has an amazing rush followed by a nice long euphoric high. Dillys have a great rush but theres really no high to speak of.
 
crimsonjunk said:
you are missing out on the opana thats the only opiate that I like more then heroin. Has an amazing rush followed by a nice long euphoric high. Dillys have a great rush but theres really no high to speak of.
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Yes. Yes they do. An amazing rush. And to the guy that said about booting them in a shot you're right, they aren't as good in a needle. Opana bioavailability when snorted is the only pill that is better than oral. It is awesome. I wish I could go back to when the opanas were snortable. They were great. The rush is amazing and the high is probably the best I've ever had. Dope being a close second.

McHigh_HMG said:
So many people have told me that opanas high doesnt lst at all.
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That is false. I've had opana high last all through the night to the next morning quite a few times. A lot of times actually.


chinky said:
ive never had dillys or opana..when i did pils it was all OCs and norcos..i wouldnt evcen know how many of them to take if i could get them
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Oxy 80 = about 30mg of Opana.
 
ive never been offered or even heard of anyone selling them..i needed like 200mgs of OC when i made the switch to dope 3years ago and i havent touched OC or anypills since..soim sure my tolerance is even higher then 200mgs now but i dont know how much higher and so i dont even know how many MGs of the opana i would need if i did find them

it would be pretty weak if i OD on the opana when ive been dopin dope for the last few years with no serious problems
 
chinky said:
ive never been offered or even heard of anyone selling them..i needed like 200mgs of OC when i made the switch to dope 3years ago and i havent touched OC or anypills since..soim sure my tolerance is even higher then 200mgs now but i dont know how much higher and so i dont even know how many MGs of the opana i would need if i did find them

it would be pretty weak if i OD on the opana when ive been dopin dope for the last few years with no serious problems
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I shit you not, I'm not a dick-sizer I don't brag, I'm just being honest, at my worst I was doing 6 opanas a night. It probably took me 4.5 to get high. It was bad dude. Opanas destroy your tolerance, they aren't like oxy's or roxy's or dope where you feel like you've had enough. You just keep doing more and more and more. I got quite a few people addicted to them unfortunately. It's a demon I live with all the time. 200mgs of OC is about 100 mg's of opana (about 2.5 which is enough to put down a horse)

McHigh_HMG said:
When did they make opana non abuseable? Recently?
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About 6 months ago they started. All of the abuseable opanas were off the shelf by may 1st if I'm not mistaken.
 
prolly when they changed the OC formula? i dont know it, thats just a guess

is ther a way to get around the abuseproofings likd you can with the OPS?
 
Opanas were good yea, but I'd never say they were better than good dope. And smokey maybe if you snort them they last a while but if you bang they have no legs at all. Opanas and dillys are like the crack of the opiate world.
 
chinky said:
prolly when they changed the OC formula? i dont know it, thats just a guess

is ther a way to get around the abuseproofings likd you can with the OPS?
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OP's came shortly before the opana change. About 6 months I would guess. Maybe a year. OP's definitely came first, but no, there is no real getting around it easily. They changed the formula twice already and it's worse and worse every time. The only real way now is by shaving it with a dremel (basically a spinning wood/metal shaver)

BluffBoy said:
Opanas were good yea, but I'd never say they were better than good dope. And smokey maybe if you snort them they last a while but if you bang they have no legs at all. Opanas and dillys are like the crack of the opiate world.
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I definitely like the high better. It's more euphoric. Dope has less euphoria than almost all opiates. Oxy's were definitely the most euphoric, but less sedating, opana's in the middle, and dope being the least euphoric but most sedating. And yes I agree again about the needle with opanas, I said that few posts up, but I snorted mine after shooting it a few times. Plus the fillers in opanas are the worst of probably any pill I know of.
 
SM0K3Y said:
I shit you not, I'm not a dick-sizer I don't brag, I'm just being honest, at my worst I was doing 6 opanas a night. It probably took me 4.5 to get high. It was bad dude. Opanas destroy your tolerance, they aren't like oxy's or roxy's or dope where you feel like you've had enough. You just keep doing more and more and more. I got quite a few people addicted to them unfortunately. It's a demon I live with all the time.



About 6 months ago they started. All of the abuseable opanas were off the shelf by may 1st if I'm not mistaken.
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when i had those coupple hundred OCs..not only did i get myself hooked..i know i got a few other people hooked..but i look at it like i didnt force to eat them or i didnt even really push them on people,i told them oncce and that was it. i was selling them cheap though cause i had so many and a few people went from buying one on the weekend to buying 5. now they said they were selling them and getting 2 for free, which i believed until i started running low and was keeping them for myself..

i swear they didnt believe me when i said they were drying up cause i had an unlimited supply for a few months and i never told them how many i actually had just that i could get them. and when i said i cvouldnt get no more, one kid like wanted to fight me and called me a liar and all this other shit and thats when i realized they wernt selling those pills they were eating them themselves and then i told them i could get more but they were the normal price and then the one kid flipped on me for that and i just told them that they are from a different person cause that old connect dried up. if he wanted them i could get them but i was only buying what he wanted cause they are too expensive and that went on for 2weeks until i told him that the new guy was out and wont be getting a new script til the next month and he stopped calling afterthat..ran into him a couyple months later and he was shooting dope and apologized for not calling me to get them OCs any more but he stopped eating them. and i was likew good for you for getting clean and he was like well i do dope now instead, its so much cheaper and a better high and when he told me that i felt kinda bad

but i didnt for long cause like i said i didnt force him to take them, he bought them on his own and i damn sure never talked about dope with him and he progressed to shooting it. plus he used pills before i had my hookup, so its not like i got him started on them, i just had a ton for a cheaper price and thats why he called me..
 
SM0K3Y said:
OP's came shortly before the opana change. About 6 months I would guess. Maybe a year. OP's definitely came first, but no, there is no real getting around it easily. They changed the formula twice already and it's worse and worse every time. The only real way now is by shaving it with a dremel (basically a spinning wood/metal shaver)
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lol a dremel..pipe clamp dont work no more huh? i use dto love shaving OCs with a pipe clamp..people would see me doing it and they would be like youre wasting so much time,just break it up with a card and i would then be like sure if you want to waste it, you might as well just eat he pill if your gonna just break it down with a card

they never understood, well i know 1 buddy who did and he would shave them too but everyone else i knew alwasys just used a card
 
They changed the Opana formula not too long ago, I first saw the new ones late last winter/early spring but that sort of stuff tends to be delayed around here. Maybe 6-8 months ago would be my guess. And they're even more of a bitch than the OP formula. No way in hell would a hose clamp work. They're like straight up plastic now, that'd be like trying to shave down the back of a bic pen with a clamp. It's honestly a pain in the ass to cut them up with a pair of diagonal cutters, they just sort of pinch in half. Tried using a file once and it all bunched up as if it were melting. That's about the best comparison I can give, it's the consistency of that plastic that bic pens are made out of for real. Can't even chew them up, you just end up squishing them and putting teeth marks in em.

Oh man though, I miss the Opana 40s so much, just old Opana in general. I remember the first time I took any my tolerance was about 100mg of oxy, I snorted 20mg of Opana and puked. Holy shit though, I have never nodded harder off of anything as I used to with that stuff. Spend a whole night fucking drooling on myself to the point where I'd have these crazy dream states whenever I nodded out. fun times. Now all I got to fuck around with is dope. Not that it's not good but damn man there used to be all sorts of awesome pills to enjoy, now it's just heroin or nothing pretty much (unless you want to pay out the ass for some roxy). Too bad really

And yeah, they smelled pretty unique. The pizza dough is a new one I never heard that one, but yeah I can kind of see where you'd say that.
 
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