13th Issue Heroin Discussion v. fuck hope do dope

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... and then before you know it you're stretching your cock around your wrist trying to hit a vein with your friend pulling your balls back, ropes and pulleys everywhere, a finger in your butt... and when it's all over, you missed your shot anyway. :(
 
^na man I been shooting my dope for years and every one of my veins are still beautiful and bulging out of my skin. All about technique, rotation, and staying the fuck away from tar and coke. I never miss and have zero tracks. Except for one spot if you look REALLY close, but that was from lack of HR when I first started.
 
Has the quality of h in nyc fell off substantially or has methadone ruined my Opiat R

Question: Am I the only one who seems to think that the quality of h in nyc has flatlined in the past 2+ years? -Or- Alternatively, is it possible that my methadone use has destroyed my opiate receptors in the same way that other members have recently described a similiar phenomenom happening with suboxone in other threads?

I have lived in nyc for the past 3 years, and I have been on the methadone maintainence program for the past 2 years. I should also mention that for the past 3 months I have only been going to my program once or twice a week because I am too weak to go everyday due to interferon treatment (and off the record, the bastards took my take homes despite being clean for over a year because I was too weak to make it in 3 days a weak so now Im back to doing heroin instead).

Anyway, I shoot up about 7 to 10 bags a day except for on the days that I do my methadone and I just cant seem to find anything (since I have been on the methadone) in this damn city that will do anything for me beyond a mild rush and taking away my sickness. Now I have gone 5 or 6 days with no methadone before shooting up 6 or 7 bags in one shot only to hit the vein perfectly and barely even get a rush with no nodding or high whatsoever. I have even loaded up 12 bags into a 3ml rig and did it in one shot a few different times (after having only 2 or 3 days off of methadone and its the same thing) .Is it just impossible for me to get a high and a nod now for some reason because of the methadone or have they just been stomping on the shit in this city like crazy for the past 2 years??

I find it hard to believe that I would really be able to shoot up 7 or 8 bags of these stamps that are laying people out in Philly and Newark like I read about in another thread (and I dont recall seeing any reports of fatal stamps coming from the bouroughs) so I'm not really sure what to think, although I realize how ridicolous what I am suggesting about the cut shit may sound. And its not like I only cop from one source, I mean I usually cop in harlem but I also have copped in jamaica and brooklyn.

Can anybody in the know please elaborate on either of these subjects....:?:X
 
I wanna go back to sniffin my dope so bad. I love the needle but i hate it too. If i shoot maybe 3 bags at a time usually more or less, i wont get as high if i sniffed the same amount right?

Ill miss the rush but i feel like if i sniff it, itll just not get me as high. I wanna be able to at least quit using the needle if i cant quit doin dope.
 
chinky said:
im suprised you can only shootup once a month and be fine and not go overboard with it..i thought tommy was the only one that was able to do it. if you only do it once a month why even bothe doing it at all?
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For me I do it when I only have enough money for 1 bag since it won't really do anything for me if I sniff it. It would suck to have to do the whole IV process whenever I wanted to get high, so all the bullshit that comes with it doesn't justify it for me since all I need is a little more dope and I can sniff it right quick and get the high that I prefer over IV.

McHigh_HMG said:
I wanna go back to sniffin my dope so bad. I love the needle but i hate it too. If i shoot maybe 3 bags at a time usually more or less, i wont get as high if i sniffed the same amount right?

Ill miss the rush but i feel like if i sniff it, itll just not get me as high. I wanna be able to at least quit using the needle if i cant quit doin dope.
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Well the intranasal bioavailability is between 44-61%, so you get around half the amount from sniffing it as you do from IVing it. I'm definitely on the higher end when it comes to the intranasal BA since I definitely don't get 2x as high from shooting it, so I'm probably getting closer to the 61%.

As long as you take a break first then switching back to sniffing won't require that much of an increase in the amount of bags to get the same high as with IV.
 
BluffBoy said:
^na man I been shooting my dope for years and every one of my veins are still beautiful and bulging out of my skin. All about technique, rotation, and staying the fuck away from tar and coke. I never miss and have zero tracks. Except for one spot if you look REALLY close, but that was from lack of HR when I first started.
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ive been shooting for 4 years and honestly im fat and not a single vein bulges, that being said i rotate like 5 spots which i guess i located with trial and error. Cephalic under base of thumb, crooks of elbow, and basalic like 6inch from bottom of wrist. I use both arms and even shooting sometimes 20+ shots of coke in a day all my veins are still bangin. Not one has collapsed or suffered any trauma. I use a new pin EVERY time and always hit on teh 1st try. New pins plus rotating on top of leaving a week or two between binges allows my veins to keep on chuggin along. New pins espeically is what really makes a HUGE idfference. Also the dope here is really easy on ur body. Coke in general is tougher on your body but i realized that the only shit that seems to kill my veins is if its cut to shit wit baking soda. luckily all the coke i been gettin lately is average to above average.

I will never shoot in my cock lol and unless i move west and start doin tar and reusing needles, I don't see my veins ever dying. They have never even stopped working. The only time u can tell I am a shooter is after a 2 day coke binge because ill end up doing like 3 injections in each of my 6 spots, other wise all i have is some very faint scars in crooks of my arm. if i just do like 5 shots in the day like a day when i just do a bit of dope, all you see is a TINY red dot at the injection site.

It makes me cringe when i see friends with abscessed, weird shit, fishy smelling wounds, i even know someone who uses the same pin for like a month straight.. so fuckin retarded when you can walk in a needle exchange and walk out with a 100-pack box of 1cc 27g 1/2" pins.
 
I just got two bags after not doing it for a little. It sucks when its easier to get heroin than what I really wanted but such is living in the Northeast I guess

blue stamp just says Magnet on it, no pic

hard to tell how good it is at this tolerance (or lack of)

taking it slow so im not in the shrine tomorrow
 
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QueensJunky said:
Question: Am I the only one who seems to think that the quality of h in nyc has flatlined in the past 2+ years? -Or- Alternatively, is it possible that my methadone use has destroyed my opiate receptors in the same way that other members have recently described a similiar phenomenom happening with suboxone in other threads?

I have lived in nyc for the past 3 years, and I have been on the methadone maintainence program for the past 2 years. I should also mention that for the past 3 months I have only been going to my program once or twice a week because I am too weak to go everyday due to interferon treatment (and off the record, the bastards took my take homes despite being clean for over a year because I was too weak to make it in 3 days a weak so now Im back to doing heroin instead).

Anyway, I shoot up about 7 to 10 bags a day except for on the days that I do my methadone and I just cant seem to find anything (since I have been on the methadone) in this damn city that will do anything for me beyond a mild rush and taking away my sickness. Now I have gone 5 or 6 days with no methadone before shooting up 6 or 7 bags in one shot only to hit the vein perfectly and barely even get a rush with no nodding or high whatsoever. I have even loaded up 12 bags into a 3ml rig and did it in one shot a few different times (after having only 2 or 3 days off of methadone and its the same thing) .Is it just impossible for me to get a high and a nod now for some reason because of the methadone or have they just been stomping on the shit in this city like crazy for the past 2 years??

I find it hard to believe that I would really be able to shoot up 7 or 8 bags of these stamps that are laying people out in Philly and Newark like I read about in another thread (and I dont recall seeing any reports of fatal stamps coming from the bouroughs) so I'm not really sure what to think, although I realize how ridicolous what I am suggesting about the cut shit may sound. And its not like I only cop from one source, I mean I usually cop in harlem but I also have copped in jamaica and brooklyn.

Can anybody in the know please elaborate on either of these subjects....:?:X
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Merging into correct regional megathread.....
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Thanks

QueensJunky, maybe it's a little bit of both. The dope has been good, but the size of bags hasn't been. There is the same amount of good dealers (or should I say drug organizations that bag the dope up) around as there used to be, but there's also a lot more shitty dealers now who either sell tiny bags, or the consistency isn't there. Once you weed them out and come across the legit dealers with consistent quality nice size bags, then it's the same as it was years ago.

When I finished with school and came home it took me longer than usual to come across a solid connect since there are so many dealers these days, many of whom have just tried to take advantage of the increase in demand by selling dope that never would have sold years ago. The size of bags seems to have gone down all around, but the good dealers still have the bags that are close to .1 each but usually under, but I guess that's irrelevant since you can see the size of bags, and it's the quality that you are wondering about. But to reiterate what I have been saying about quality, there is still good dope around, so you either aren't getting it, or the methadone has jacked up your tolerance to the point of taking away from your high.
 
Got my china white today :) throughout the day I tried all 3 different batches (all via IV - 1 also via snorting)

I must say shooting this type of dope versus some dank ass tar is pretty much the same just not as intense. When I do a good shot of tar and I get that rush...its like getting hit by a damn bus. The powdered dope (all 3 batches) were definitely strong and i got a very enjoyable rush, it was just way more subtle. Idk if I did a fatter shot if it would help or not but im not tryna OD so not really wanting to keep trying bigger shots. Especially since I'm getting a "good, full sized" rush its just different...which could be expected since its a different form of #4 dope.

The coke I got was alright..At least compared to the old shit I used to get. I used to shoot half grams during a speed ball (no, not saying look at me i shoot halfsies of coke! im saying our coke is just that shitty.) This one I only shot maybe a point..no bell ringer unfortunately but still a decent shot. I'd imagine a .2 shot would be perfect.
 
KAYLA2010 said:
Have any of y'all ever felt super weird body high not cotton fever, I'm talking about this time I did like a little more than a matchstick head and after the shot I got the nice feeling and then all of a sudden really dizzy and like my body was going in intense waves and it freaked me out it was in no way calming I kept telling myself your fine just walk....
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Yeah its called a RUSH:)

You iv'ed powder this is tar!
 
DP new-

I have severe restless leg syndrome that effects my entire body from time to time and last night I took a soma and it exasterbated my RLS. I was in agonizing pain not just my legs my entire body. I cried for dope to take away the pain and I got something I assumed would be the next best thing OxyContin 40mg new formula OP tamper proof. This is my first time taking one of these.

I now have an entire different view on dope. I took a 40 mg new formula OP Time release orally and thirty minutes later, I felt a beautiful rush and all the excruciating pain was there one second gone the next.. Also I keep nodding into a dream state every few seconds and I actually dream a vivid beautiful dream and come out of the nod smiling everytime, because my dreams are of things that make me feel good, example laughing with my husband or like good memories being replayed in my head. There is no anxiety, no fear.

Now to my point is that with the heroin snorting or injecting I assumed it would be heavenly like what happened with the oxy, but that was not my experience. I felt Good I loved it but I had so many negative effects as well. a racing heart at comeup from both snorting and injecting. I also felt panic and anxiety come in waves through out my high. It was also either very subtle high after the rush and I would feel the need to check my heart rate, I hated that but loved the mellow feeling an the nodding off, but even the nod on heroin was not this blissful or for lack of a better word "clean high" and I had thoughts waves of nausea...

Heroin was the best feeling when I wasn't experiencing a wave of nausea or anxiety. But now after experiencing this Oxy I am in love with it. It's what I thought heroin would feel like. I feel so at peace so comfortable so warm and loving. Not one negative feeling.no dizziness or nausea either. Heroin also gave me energy, this is making me feel so relaxed I wouldn't dare want my nod interrupted.

Is it just my body chemistry or do any of you feel a major difference with OxyContin compared to heroin? And do you know what the difference is with metabolism? And i thought dilaudid was great but now that doesn't even compare to this. Also the rush is an intense body high but the most blissful, not overwhelming and anxious feeling like heroin. This feels so smooth.

I bought the heroin in Detroit and it was from three separate dealers and multiple bags I went through and I snorted and inject, so I know it wasn't just a bad batch I am actually just feeling a completely different opiate nod body high feeling. I thought heroin was supposed to be the best and I thought it was but now after this I can't help but be in shock at all the negative effects I had with it compared to the oxy.

Will someone give me some insite? Thanks for reading all of this lol
 
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I prefer oxy over most of the heroin ive done as well. Albeit Id rather get a roxi 30 than an OP.
 
I like oxy better too. I know that's not a popular opinion around here but, it's true. You get more bang for your buck out of dope no doubt but, oxy gives me a more energetic euphoria where as dope lasts longer but is more sedating to me. Really the highs can be very similar at times depending on dose but, i find myself loving the entire world more often on oxy.

It's funny you mention this. I actually got a bunch of oxy. It had been a while and i had to C W E a lot of it to save my liver but i didn't need as much as i thought and it definitely reminded me how much i like it.
 
shimazu said:
I prefer oxy over most of the heroin ive done as well. Albeit Id rather get a roxi 30 than an OP.
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I was really bummed when I saw it was OP and I wouldn't be able to turn it to IR, but omfg I do not care now because it's been hours an it goes like this

-nodding blissful dreams
-rush
-nodding blissful dreams
-rush

Over and over and I am just in heaven and it's been hours since 5:30am and another wave of rush just came and now I'm having a hard time typing cause I am nod again
 
Johnny blue said:
I like oxy better too. I know that's not a popular opinion around here but, it's true. You get more bang for your buck out of dope no doubt but, oxy gives me a more energetic euphoria where as dope lasts longer but is more sedating to me. Really the highs can be very similar at times depending on dose but, i find myself loving the entire world more often on oxy.

It's funny you mention this. I actually got a bunch of oxy. It had been a while and i had to C W E a lot of it to save my liver but i didn't need as much as i thought and it definitely reminded me how much i like it.
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Im jelly only had one so worth it, dope gives me energy like Vicodin but oxy makes me feel how I gues. You feel on dope.

I just love my nods ad dreams and world and my body feels so good every touch feels do good I have never taken a time release that actually worked like getting a rush and just bliss and then a rush over and over it's like they perfected it Imy body just feels so good
 
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Johnny blue said:
You can "crisp" OPs into a snortable form. It's a pain in the ass and can be a little tricky but, that's the only way I do em.
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Ya, I did lots of research on these I was so dad they were OP buy now that I am still going strong this high and the rushes and the nods I am glad it's not it because I am sdo high and I don't want it to go away yet and time release supposed to last 12 our time span best day ever I'm so glad. I love these
 
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