13th Issue Heroin Discussion v. fuck hope do dope

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^ Do you mean that you were surprised you felt a rush at all from the partially missed shot, or the high at all? I've seen some conflicting posts about what happens with missed shots, but I was always under the impression that you still get 100% of it, but the high is delayed. I have a friend who I asked how the batch of dope he got was, and he was like "it's good man, look at how pinned my eyes are from banging 4 bags, and I missed!" I was thinking it didn't matter that he missed, other than not getting a rush, and he would still feel basically the full effects, just delayed a bit so a slightly slower and lower peak.

the rush and immediate high
 
I heard a lot of peps overdose b/c of dope cut with fent

@gwencooper || logansq

are blows referring to coke or dope in your respective cities .. cause in North Jersey/NYC blow is always coke.

Blow is cocaine here too, the way that heroin is called dope, but from my understanding seeing these guys talk about it all the time is that individual bags/caps of dope out there are called blows. Like instead of saying "I have 4 bags", they would say "I have 4 blows"
 
I heard a lot of peps overdose b/c of dope cut with fent

@gwencooper || logansq

are blows referring to coke or dope in your respective cities .. cause in North Jersey/NYC blow is always coke.

Blow in the non-ghetto (or "white people world) has and will always be coke.

In the ghetto world "BLOWS" means one bag of heroin. Rocks = crack. Powder = coke.

And generally you don't get powder (i.e. coke that's not crack) in the ghetto/open air marketplace.

When you're driving down the street the guys yell out "ROCKS! BLOWS!" and then when you place your order there's a whole 'nother language/vocabulary...
Freaking crazy, but hey - rules are rules! 'Cause if you don't know the lingo - sort of like ordering a venti mocha americana skinny latte with an extra shot at Starbucks... They're gonna think you're "police" (pronounced PO-LEESE, no "the in front of it either). And they won't serve you!

I shit you not.
 
I got some really white chunks today. Shit is really good too. Seems like most of us have been getting fire lately which is great but, I'm curious why all the sudden. I mean all I get is what some of you guys call "raw" and it's always good but, lately everything has been really good around here. I'm hearing about a lot of ODs too.

I hope everyone, especially the IV users take that into consideration because IMO the trend seems to be fairly consistent everywhere.

What do you guys think? How is the quality where you are?

Dude you are right on the money. The quality of the dope here has been insane lately. Like seriously some of the best shit i've EVER had and i've had some good shit before. People def. need to be careful though...if they get careless I can see an OD happening easily. I try to be as careful as possible with this fire...just take small lines at a time. But man the shipments that got into the east coast must've been really good lately. I'm not complaining though even though it's causing my use to skyrocket. I just copped my second bundle of the week...usually I only get one bun per week but I had to stock up on this raw fiya.
 
The fire has been around here for a little while now, starting a few months ago. I had gone like 2 solid months where there was only 1 time that I wasn't happy with the quality, but all other times I was satisfied and then some. Right when I mentioned it though I got shitty bags a few days apart, but everything has been back on point since then.

Everyone I know goes to the same guy so I really can't speak on the overall quality around here, but that one guy has fire. My friend got me something from someone else last week since the guy wasn't going to be around for a few hours and my friend didn't want to wait, and I was just as happy with the 'backup' stuff he got as I have been with the main dude. That was monday actually, but I haven't done any dope since then but I'm sure not much has changed.
 
The dope is really good lately too in Nj, No complaints here what so ever... Everything i have been getting lately has been a straight 6/10- 8/10 :) the dope gods are blessing us
 
I got some really white chunks today. Shit is really good too. Seems like most of us have been getting fire lately which is great but, I'm curious why all the sudden. I mean all I get is what some of you guys call "raw" and it's always good but, lately everything has been really good around here. I'm hearing about a lot of ODs too.

I hope everyone, especially the IV users take that into consideration because IMO the trend seems to be fairly consistent everywhere.

What do you guys think? How is the quality where you are?
my main guy has had nothing but shit for a few months, my backup is decent..nothing to brag about but nothing to complain about..my main guy its totally his connects, like just a few dqays ago he calls me up and says hes got something new coming and its gonna be really goode, i go and cop and i was like "are you serious?" and hes like what? im like i can tell by looking at this that its shit and hes like "color doesnt matter" and i was like youre right buyt i can tell that this is all dorm.. and hes like well go try it and let me know..well he called me the next day before i called him and i was like "yeah man its shitty" and he was like what the fuck even when its supposed to be really good, you guys say its garbage..and i was like thats cause it is. he goes well itrs not supposede to be, the people i got it from is supposed to have the best and i was like maybe what they gave you is good but then you go and throw your cut onto and now its garbage..and hes was like "i didnt throw anything more then i normally do" and i was like i know but you got to have someone trest your raw before you mill it cause i think they are just rerockin the shit and gicvin it to you, cause this shit sucks..

the dope got me high but i needed 4bags more then what i need with my other guy and it doesnt really have legs..to me it feels like a benedryl nod...ill do it and then nod off for a few hours and then by 2am i feel like normal almost..like as if i took the benedryl at 2am and went to sleep andf woke up at 10-11am feeling good cause i got some decent sleep..

even gave my one buddy a bag to see what it cooks p like and it left a bunch of shit in the spoon and really had no color..luckly i told my guy before he did that, that i was pure it was garbage..his dope has been off for months now, he will go a week everynow and then and get somenthing good and worth it but then it goes away, it doesnt make sense..i dont know if hes just buyin the cheap shit to make money cause i knopw he owes like 2500in fines to the city but fuck man, spend a little and get the good shit and i guanrentee it will go 3-4x faster then this shit goes and you can reup 3-4x in the span it takes you to flip all this garbage, so really her wouldnt be losing money cause hes flippin 3-4x as much...i even asked him if he can tell the differenace when the shit is good as opposed to when its bad and he was like definetly..and then i was like well if this is how its gonna be you gotta stop steppin on it like you do cause youre gonna lose everyone..and i flat out told him i had another connect and thats wy he sees me once a week as opposed to 3-4

sorry for the rant but i just had to put my 2cents in and say no not everyone has got that fire

How long would it take for my tolerance to diminish?

could be days to drop a few bags, but it will comeback quick if you are using everyday/everyother...but weeks or months for it to go back to chipping days and months/ years for it to go back to nothing and get high on a few 5/500 vicodin, if you lucky..hgell you might not ever go back to that level
 
The dope is really good lately too in Nj, No complaints here what so ever... Everything i have been getting lately has been a straight 6/10- 8/10 :) the dope gods are blessing us

I'm like 10 days clean, but the whole summer I was copping and 90% of the dope was 6+. I mostly cop in Paterson cuz when quality is good shit is really cheap. I mean the whole summer you could pull up at any spot and not even have heard of the stamp that was out and it was almost certain you were gonna get fire. However, I have been hearing this week that some of popular quality brands are going down in quality or disappearing and the new stamps aren't not as good. Dope quality is always in cycles. Summers are usually the best, in terms of quality.
 
Bummed out...I couldnt sleep last night so i took some ~2mg of suboxone last night. Wanted to get high today but now i fear the blocking effect is going to make it not even worth it :( Ultimate dillemma!!!!! Kick all night for a day of being high or get some good rest but not get high today...UGH!!!!
 
aww poor junkie...


in other news: whats good with yall this mornin? whos kickin ass, gettin their day started the right way?

*raises hand* "me!"

this just in: 360 mg of methadone... yep thats right 360 mg of methadone.. im gona be soo high in an hour or so :D

this reminds me of this documentary called Methadonia. its about methadone users in New York, and i remember a lot of them had huge doses like 300mg per day!! man if i tried to raise my dose any more than 120, my clinic would fuss and fuss and worry.. idk how i could posssibly raise my dose to 300, or if theres a cap to a done dose.

but, yall should check "methadonia" out. i saw it on netflix, and i bet u can look it up on youtube or the internet
 
Methadonia was about people mixing their methadone with xanax bars and nodding out mid sentence uncontrollably. Dumb documentary, albeit entertaining.
 
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Methadonia was about people mixing their methadone with xanax bars and nodding out mid sentence uncontrollably. Dumb documentary, albeit entertaining.

thats not all it's about, but certainly a recurring theme in "methadonia". i dont know how it is "dumb", but certainly the subjects of the doc, the methadone users in New York, were not the sharpest tools in the shed. They werent playing with a full deck, so to speak.. too much heron, booze, and crack will fry your brain, and the methadone users in Methadonia is proof of that. The "methadone users", aka bums. heh.

and thats kind of the point of drug documentaries, to have some laughs and to be entertained by watching a day in the life of junkies!

so, Mass08, what would you consider to be a Smart documentary?
 
That was just my opinion, like what was the real purpose of it, to show us how sad some drug users lives are, or to ward people off from using drugs? Smart documentaries I believe are the ones that have a purpose to inform the general public something that they probably don't know. Such as the ones informing about the processed foods and meat industry health woes, or the ones about how all the drinkable water in dwindling on planet earth. So compared to documentaries about topics like that, yeah I would say that methadonia was kinda stupid.
 
the answer to your first question is actually in the question already, to raise awareness of how some drug addicts live, to let people know drugs is not glamorous and what its really like to lbe a life long heroin/methadone/opiate addict. i imagine that might deter some people from using heroin that first time, because they know what its all about, a trip down heroin highway takes you no where fast...
 
my main guy has had nothing but shit for a few months, my backup is decent..nothing to brag about but nothing to complain about..my main guy its totally his connects, like just a few dqays ago he calls me up and says hes got something new coming and its gonna be really goode, i go and cop and i was like "are you serious?" and hes like what? im like i can tell by looking at this that its shit and hes like "color doesnt matter" and i was like youre right buyt i can tell that this is all dorm.. and hes like well go try it and let me know..well he called me the next day before i called him and i was like "yeah man its shitty" and he was like what the fuck even when its supposed to be really good, you guys say its garbage..and i was like thats cause it is. he goes well itrs not supposede to be, the people i got it from is supposed to have the best and i was like maybe what they gave you is good but then you go and throw your cut onto and now its garbage..and hes was like "i didnt throw anything more then i normally do" and i was like i know but you got to have someone trest your raw before you mill it cause i think they are just rerockin the shit and gicvin it to you, cause this shit sucks..

the dope got me high but i needed 4bags more then what i need with my other guy and it doesnt really have legs..to me it feels like a benedryl nod...ill do it and then nod off for a few hours and then by 2am i feel like normal almost..like as if i took the benedryl at 2am and went to sleep andf woke up at 10-11am feeling good cause i got some decent sleep..

even gave my one buddy a bag to see what it cooks p like and it left a bunch of shit in the spoon and really had no color..luckly i told my guy before he did that, that i was pure it was garbage..his dope has been off for months now, he will go a week everynow and then and get somenthing good and worth it but then it goes away, it doesnt make sense..i dont know if hes just buyin the cheap shit to make money cause i knopw he owes like 2500in fines to the city but fuck man, spend a little and get the good shit and i guanrentee it will go 3-4x faster then this shit goes and you can reup 3-4x in the span it takes you to flip all this garbage, so really her wouldnt be losing money cause hes flippin 3-4x as much...i even asked him if he can tell the differenace when the shit is good as opposed to when its bad and he was like definetly..and then i was like well if this is how its gonna be you gotta stop steppin on it like you do cause youre gonna lose everyone..and i flat out told him i had another connect and thats wy he sees me once a week as opposed to 3-4

sorry for the rant but i just had to put my 2cents in and say no not everyone has got that fire



could be days to drop a few bags, but it will comeback quick if you are using everyday/everyother...but weeks or months for it to go back to chipping days and months/ years for it to go back to nothing and get high on a few 5/500 vicodin, if you lucky..hgell you might not ever go back to that level




so your chicago dope is no good chink? surprise surprise... honestly if i had to choose between the dope i get and your chicago dope, the winner would be tar... because ive seen how they do it on the west side of chi town. ive seen about 3 documentaries about dope in chicago, specifically the west side, and how the dope game goes in the West Side.. They have a crack head cutting open sleeping pills (diphenhydramine) to cut the dope with, however the dope is already cut to shit by the time it hits chicago, and in chicago they cut it again, and maybe even more than once..

so i saw how this one crew ran their operation. they had a user cut open boxes of sleeping pills containing diphenhydramine, and mixed a relatively large amount of DPH with the dope by hand with a card.. next they divided the product into doses by a tea spoon, a spoonfull=1 bag. however, before they distribute their product on a large scale, they bag up a smalll amount to distribute to determine its quality... samples for the fiends.. so if the fiends say its weak, that means they need to add more Dormin/sleeping pill/Diphenhydramine.. and when the fiend says the dope is "FIRE", that simply means the proper amount of Diphenhydramine has been added to their "dope", which is really mostly Dormin... which is actually a good potentiator of dope that i have used.. it gets me drowsier, but not more euphoric.. and i would rather not mix DPH with dope, so i get that pure opiate high.

so the "dope" yall get in chi town is mostly Dormin, and when yall get "fire" it really just means you have a lot of dormin in your dope... nice!....not.

My point is I feel kinda sorry for you chicago dope heads.. the dope yall get is actually mostly cut, largely consisting of Dormin, a sleeping pill.. i would choose my tar over your chicago powder any.day.

my dope is straight fire. my friend is an IV user and she only needs a .07 to get HIGH AS FUCK. thats right, not even a tenth for a great, oped out high!! as for myself, i need more, but only because im on 120mgs methadone/per day. so i have to IV a .4 for an AMAZING BLAST and high... and with my dope there is no dormin... I am in Arizona, so the dope is fresh, just over the border, and uncut usually.. Dope in phoenix in my experience has always been fire.. a .1 usually has always fucked me up..not even from IV! a .1 smoked will have u fucked up for the entire afternoon, nodding up to 6 hours.
 
Is what your describing from drugs INC? Because the heroin episode shows exactly what your describing with the sleeping pills and and DPH, i jsut wasn't sure if it was in chi town. I only get powder here in MA which I thoroughly enjoy, but man I really want to smoke some tar.
 
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