12th Issue Heroin Discussion v. livin' on the run for so long I gotta go collect

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chinky said:
if someone uses the term raw here its normally straight rock hard chunks of dope, thats off the ki like how you might get coke if you got a good connect...its been mentioned here that a few people have got raw with a dormin pill in it to cut it themselves but ive never personally seen it

and tommy about them being mexicans or PRs or whatever..in chicago its mostly all mexicans, we got some PRs in humboldt but the majority of the hispanic people here are mexicans...and thats who the black gangs get their drugs from and like i aid the blacks are the only ones that do open air for the most part

mexican gangs here though man are scary cause they just dont care and have been wildin out..everytime i go cop i see people painting over new tags..in this oone half mile strip, kings and SDs are goin at it and the fucked up thing is its like kings got a few streets and then the next street is SDs and so they always shooting and tagging each others shit..like i sdaid a couple weeks ago in broad day light i was gettin gang signs thrown at me cause i was just driving threw wearing a hat but its rare to see the mexican gang bangers out in the daytime, they only come out night
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Ahh, you know what confused me? I knew that Chicago has a lot of Latin Kings, but I only associate mostly Puerto Ricans and Dominicans with that gang, since that's how it is in NYC, so thats why I figured there were a lot of PRs and Dominicans there. I see now that the Kings in Chicago are mostly Mexican, so that makes sense now. NYC has the Bronx, Washington Heights, and Buschwick (part of Brooklyn) which are mostly Dominican and Puerto Rican, so there really isn't a Mexican neighborhood there.

Mexicans make up the third largest hispanic ethnicity in NYC, behind of course Dominicans and PRs, but they have come here a lot more recently than the other two groups, and are more spread out, although some areas of BK and Queens are now becoming more Mexican. I do however have tons of Mexicans living by me, but they aren't Kings.
 
^na I totally agree, of course there has to be some cut on the product. I was just sayin the term "raw" I don't like. It reminds me of someone sayin they got some china white or something just to make it sell. It's not raw, it's fuckin good dope with alot less flex on it. Know what I mean.

Idk that term isn't really thrown around in the south like other areas.
 
latin kings was created here so of course we are gonna have alot of them..

chicago is a really segregated city with most ethnic groups living in a certain area, not saying you not gonna mind a mexican living in humboldt or a PR living in pilsen but thats just how things are here..the italians, greeks, chinese, mexicans, PRs, india, ukranian, jews, irish..they all pretty much have their own little neighborhoods and if you walk into a store in that hood, your most likely gonna see signs and people speaking the language..even gays have their own neighbhood here..and like i said sure people mix but they will just stick together and its not racist segregation, its just people from certian areas or countrys, stick together
 
I'm very intrigued by the Chicago mafia, I know they got hit pretty hard a couple years ago but that was like the only big case the Chicago mob ever had since Capone
It seems like out of all the five families in NY and all that, the Chicago mob was way more efficient and didn't have any one flip on the family until just a few years ago or so

I know Tony Accardo was the boss for a long long time and supposedly only spent one night in jail, that's pretty unbelievable when you have all these new york capo's and bosses getting busted all through out the 70's, 80's, and 90's and getting life sentences on major rico charges

So is the mafia still present in some areas in Chicago and do they profit at all from the heroin market?
 
I met this Latin King where I'm from they don't like dealing with whites he said and if they ever do they try and rip them off. He was Puerto Rican and said they always try to get small sales but they only like doing larger sales. It also cuts out the junkies who don't have the money and try to let you throw them shit. He said if they do 10 dollar sales or like less than 50 its only for family or close friends. Not all are like that in my area but I see it more commonly. Also if you end up getting dope from the hispanics it usually is cut to shit. So I tend to only go to philly to get dope and the blacks deal it mainly (pretty obvious) but yeah they will deal to anyone.
 
of course the outfit is still present and active..my ex girlfriends stepdad is connected, i dont think hes a made member but his father is a real famous chicagpo mob guy..i dated her in highschool and everytime we met her step dad we would joke that he was a mobster and would kill us just causwe he had this intimifation presence with his gold chains and cigar and like we heard rumors but didnt know it was true until a couple years ago when his father got arrested and they trird putting 2 of their houses up as collateral..ot was kinda like "i knew it"..to be honest if i would have known, i would have tried everything to get involved with that

today they arent really that high profile, they do alot of loansharking and take bets and extortion, they have roots inalot of construction companys and trucking companys, resturants and bars but they arent really out there in public..also alot of their organization is out of state in like wisconsin and michigan, the mob familes from those states all report to us here

about dope, i doubt they are involved in that shit now
 
Chinky they may be on the import side of it. The way I see it is the mob would have the bankroll to fund the shipping/ trucking or whatever way they get it here. Mabye I saw goofellas too many times.
 
I'm part italian because my mom's side of the family has a lot of italians. When I was younger I always thought my grandpa (he's full italian) and his brother (who lives next door to my grandpa) were in the mob. They always would leave to do things at the exact time everyday. I also then thought in one of the stone statues of the virgin mary in the living room had a gun inside of it. Of course my grandpa had a gun but it wasn't in a statue. I also thought they went to carbone's an italian sub shop near their house to meet up with other mob members. Wow a wild imagination... However a lot of italians do/use to move drugs in CT but now its mainly hispanics. The mob isn't as relevant today... Especially when you have the russian mafia and the cartel.
 
Where I went on the eastside of Detroit it was all blacks running things. Also we have a Mexican village and the only thing I got out of there was good coke, but I was not doing heroin so I didn't ask.
 
of course the mob deals dope that how they still can barely function.

i grew up down the street from tony accardo, when i was a kid. my parents used to drive me past his house and he would always have this dude in sunglasses sitting at the end of his driveway, nice house though. bowling alley built into it.

i have another good friend that grew up heavily in the mob his father and brother at least he was like the black sheep, kicked his ass to the curb, but that dude always has a stack of like 1980's 5 dollar bills. his dad opened a few casinos down in south america and has many books written about him. it is still interesting to hear his stories, the last one he told me was transporting big Tide boxes of laundry detergent but instead you can guess what was inside, dope.
 
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I'm glad you chimed in seedless, ^ that's exactly the kind of stories I love to hear about the mob, Idk why but they are so intruiging
And I know you're pretty much a Chi old head and I think I seen you talking about the outfit before.

That's pretty cool you grew up near Tony, he's like the most infamous boss in all of the mafia
You must have lived in a very nice neighborhood if you lived right down the street, because didn't he have a real nice house and stuff?

I also heard while he was away one time some junkies or something robbed his house, and only like a few weeks later they found all there bodies

But to keep the thread on track, yeah I'm sure the mob still profits from the dope game but I know there not the ones out there doing hand to hand drug transactions, they most prolly just collect a tax or something like that if you deal dope in there area or something and maybe they do control some of the imported stuff, who knows

And who is the boss now? Last I heard Joey Lombardo was but he got locked up for life looking all rough with a scraggly ass beard, he didn't even look Italian
 
Lol mob stories... If you guys only knew (really...)

I hate bragging about dick size but I've had a lot of cool crazy shit happen in my life, and when I was young I didn't think much of it, but as I got older I realized no one lived like my family did.

And on the "Mob controlling dope" - from what I've been told it's mostly amphetamines, meth, and coke. Dope was always kind of shunned since it brought the wrong kind of crowd around. My grandfather did 12 years out of 20 on manufacturing crank and multiple gun possession charges (and 2 silencers which they added a year for a piece) my uncle (who I will post pictures of within the next couple days) used to be the body guard for my "great" uncle (grandfathers brother) who happened to be on america's most wanted for ties to the mafia and methamphetamine manufacturing. Also, I'm not sure if anyone has ever heard of Long John Marterano (I think that's spelled incorrectly) but his grandson "Robbie" (Rob) used to come over my house alll the time. Also when my father and uncle were locked up they got pictures with Nicky Scarfo Jr, and Nicky Scarfo Sr. (which I can post pics of as well)

My uncle has been in prison for all kinds of different things as well. Stabbing 2 undercover officers, numerous fights (he's a 6'4 250lb straight greasy italian all muscle, golden glove boxer) and I've heard stories between him and my father that I shall never, ever, repeat. My father passed away about a year and a half ago, but things that I've heard (and seen evidence to) would have easily nabbed members of my family and locked them away for the rest of their natural born lives.

When I was in highschool my friends would come over and tell me "Yo man you need a camera show following your life, I can't believe you actually live this every day" It was pretty cool, but it certainly made my head big. And of course in high school everyone gossiped so everyone knew about Marterano's grandson coming over all the time (he'd come over drunk too, screaming for my uncle to kill people) and my friends would all get a kick out of it.

But I moved out long ago, my drug use put a pretty big dent in my relationship with my family so I don't see much of that anymore. Plus the only people involved in all that, that haven't passed away is my grandmother and my uncle. And my uncle is still in prison and my grandmother is old and living in her million dollar house all by herself. Funny how things worked out (just like I expected really...)

And just to re-iterate this is not a "My dick is big" post, that's all 100% serious and I can (and will) post pictures in a few days to prove all of this. I have to stop at my moms and get them out of my safe, but again I don't make things up.

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Also when my grandfather (and my dad) got caught with a couple ki's of meth (which my dad got 2.5 years as a runner and my grandfather got the 20 years as a distributor/manufacturer) it was inside of a giant ass cake.

Also money was hidden extremely well in my grandmothers back yard, one year I guess she was short and they buried it about 15 feet deep with a truck frame on top of a mattress, which was in turn on top of trash bags of money. They actually paid an excavation truck to come in and dig it up and pull the truck frame out.

Also I have a couple other pics with my uncle in front of a burning house and all his trips to italy, the bahamas, germany, alaska (where I lived for a few years) and all kinds of other places. Pictures of him in brand new cadillacs (at age 22) and my dad in a porsche (at age 19) There is all kinds of pictures I got to get together and post. You guys will love the pics I'm sure.
 
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hey guys been reading this for awhile but just now signed up right in chitown the skull bags r super fire nodding off of two. o and that story about that kid that found 80 something xanax and three heroin bags on the street is true i chill trumandchiave on a daily basis really cool dude dont know why u banned him but all the bitch wanted was xanax and somehow he got her to take off her cloths i had to wait in the other room chiandtrumave dont bullshit crazy ass dude from him but he wasnt lying i was wit him.o and every italian/ sicilian person thinks there gangsters i laugh becuz 90 percent of them r bitches IRISH PRIDE ALL THE WAY I LIVE RIGHT BY CAPONES HOUSE IN CICERO THE MOB BARELY EXISTS ANYMORE WIT ALL THOSE INDICTMENTS AND CRACKDOWN I HATE SICILIANS STINKY IMMIGRANTS HERE IN CHICAGO 90 PERCENT OF ALL OPEN AIRS OUT WEST R RUN BY BLACKS. NEW BREEDS, TVL, GD, VICELORDS AND 4CH THE OTHER TEN PERCENT IS RUN BY THE PUERTO RICANS BUT I WOULDNT STEP FOOT IN THERE HOOD THEY ONLY LIKE TO SELL TO THERE OWN PEOPLE
 
hey guys. droppin in to say watup.

atm i am noddin out on the methadone. yesterday they raised me from 60 to 70 mg's. the nurse told me i can keep raising my dose until i hit 90 mg's. so that's the cap. i am curious, wondering if this is a low cap. i have heard of people being on doses like 130 mg's. and i have heard of people being on doses even higher than 130 mg's.

damn i am really nodding hard on the 'done right now. this post has taken me like 20 minutes to post
 
Tommyboy said:
I was surprised to learn that Camden dope dealers are mostly hispanic. I guess I always associated open air makets as being run by blacks. What about Chicago, who runs that? Is it the same, where it's mostly hispanic who are more professional, and then there are the blacks that are usually less professional and not as consistent? Are the call and meet dealers more likely to be hispanic, and the open air dealers more likely to be black?
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Hispanics (dominicans and columbians I assume to be the biggest 2) control probably 75% of the dope game here in camden. I believe it to be that way as well in north jersey and new york too. Blacks may buy dope to sell it, but the hispanics are the ones importing the stuff. There are a few blocks that are integrated now, but for the most part it's either black or it's spanish. Usually not both.

Also my dealer now is black but he is probably my favorite so far.

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^ Are you sure they are Mexican and not Colombian, Dominican, or Puerto Rican? Since you are getting powder dope I wouldn't think that Mexicans are involved, although I have read of cases where powder dope gets smuggled through Mexico to Texas and then up to NY, so the Mexicans sometimes play a role in the powder heroin trade. And I agree that they gotta cut dope a little. If sniffing 0.2 (from a source that likely cuts it, or 0.15 from the guy that doesn't add cut) gets me as high as I want then pure dope from here would be killing all the people that are new to using it.
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I wouldn't be surprised. Mexicans are running the dope game from cali to texas, from kentucky to alaska. They control everything. Up in alaska they are call-only dealers where you call them and they come drop it off. And it's that mexican mud. I don't know how far up towards the N.East the mexicans go, but I know they are flowing into states as close as the carolina's. Which isn't far from us at all....


breed4life said:
hey guys been reading this for awhile but just now signed up right in chitown the skull bags r super fire nodding off of two. o and that story about that kid that found 80 something xanax and three heroin bags on the street is true i chill trumandchiave on a daily basis really cool dude dont know why u banned him but all the bitch wanted was xanax and somehow he got her to take off her cloths i had to wait in the other room chiandtrumave dont bullshit crazy ass dude from him but he wasnt lying i was wit him.o and every italian/ sicilian person thinks there gangsters i laugh becuz 90 percent of them r bitches IRISH PRIDE ALL THE WAY I LIVE RIGHT BY CAPONES HOUSE IN CICERO THE MOB BARELY EXISTS ANYMORE WIT ALL THOSE INDICTMENTS AND CRACKDOWN I HATE SICILIANS STINKY IMMIGRANTS HERE IN CHICAGO 90 PERCENT OF ALL OPEN AIRS OUT WEST R RUN BY BLACKS. NEW BREEDS, TVL, GD, VICELORDS AND 4CH THE OTHER TEN PERCENT IS RUN BY THE PUERTO RICANS BUT I WOULDNT STEP FOOT IN THERE HOOD THEY ONLY LIKE TO SELL TO THERE OWN PEOPLE
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You are ignorant as fuck. And your babbling of a paragraph that has no punctuation shows how illiterate you are, obviously you are a liberated prison monkey with less than 9 years of education. I could teach my dog to write and spell better than you do.

Also, I'd like to mention that while the mafia/mob/italians are laying low, by no means are they gone. Just because they aren't reckless and endangering innocent lives like gangs in the hood doesn't mean they aren't still a very successful functioning crime organization. The fact that they don't go out in the streets shooting guns and causing overall panic in residents says something not only about their character, but also about their reserve in the use of deadly force to get things done. Also I'd like to mention that they aren't just about selling drugs, they try to make a means of selling illegal items to profit from things that are legal as well (opening casino's and businesses)

And just because you live near capones house means nothing. That doesn't say a single thing about the mafia/mob. As a matter of fact about a year or two ago they just got 250 people with arrest warrants for a year long investigation (or possibly longer) it's just harder to hit the mob since their ventures are in many different things, not just the sale of heroin in the streets.

Also as far as "Selling to their own people" I'm not sure how things are run out there, but the guys in camden would be stupid to only sell to their own race. 90% of the buyers around here are suburban white kids & adults with habits. And trust me they give a lot of money to the camden drug game. Also more often then not, it's the whites with heroin problems (blacks/hispanics are users as well, though not as prevalent) and crack is a bigger epidemic for minorities, you can do the research anywhere.

Good luck on your reading and writing skills of 2012. Please learn punctuation and I would learn to come together with people instead of being an antagonistic asshole with obvious lack of education or real world living (for example talking shit about "Stinky" Sicilians - though I'm not Sicilian it's extremely disrespectful)

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PS - Italians are the first, and the "True" gangsters - they are the ones who invented the pyramid of leadership and the only reason why dealers have the organization they do. And they still really don't since they keep killing each other and getting arrested.
 
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yo TRM what part of az you in? I always heard Mesa has some bomb shit


Hey SM0K3Y thanks for telling us a little about your self it was dope as fuck to read!
So do you stay in Camden or you just cop there?
 
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SM0K3Y said:
I wouldn't be surprised. Mexicans are running the dope game from cali to texas, from kentucky to alaska. They control everything. Up in alaska they are call-only dealers where you call them and they come drop it off. And it's that mexican mud. I don't know how far up towards the N.East the mexicans go, but I know they are flowing into states as close as the carolina's. Which isn't far from us at all....
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I've heard of this too, the call and delivery service, I heard that is all done by the New Generation Jalisco Cartel, backed by the Sinaloa Cartel.
It's not in Kentucky though, well not in the northern part and the Cinci tri state area, I've heard it's all up near Colombus.

Also supposedly they sell for way cheaper than any of the open air markets or call and meets up in Ohio and have way better product
 
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