12th Issue Heroin Discussion v. livin' on the run for so long I gotta go collect

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lol mr nosey with the million and one questions

nothing wrong with it i guess but damn you dont need to be in everyones business..i mean whats it matter how many subs someone gets or how much someone in another part of the country scored..i just dont see what those things matter

andno hate.. its nbdjs
 
Little change in schedule. I haven't gotten high on a night off in a while, so I decided to. I realized that all the times I've copped in the last few months has been during the day, or on a work day, and night time is my favorite time to get high so here I am. I'm able to just chill, smoke cigarettes, and fuck around on my phone and on BL. One of the kids I copped with worked nights so he was only around during the afternoon, and my other dude is only around on weekends, thus why I haven't gotten high at night not at work in a while.

The stuff I got is pretty good, and the count is alright. For those of you who saw my post earlier in the week about how dope is either in the skinny bags with no stamp and usually a low count, or the wider bags with a stamp and a good size, well this happens to be somewhere in the middle.

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Both pictures are of the same bag, one just has the dope in one line, and the other has it broken into two lines, this way you get a better idea of the count. As far as skinny bags go, it's a nice count, but as far as the wider stamped bags go its average at best. I should have taken the picture of it in the bag, because it actually looks like a low count, but the dope is just pressed into a flat plate that breaks out alright. At first glance though it looks small, but once its broken up its alright. These skinny bags usually aren't stamped, but these obviously are stamped, but they aren't taped shut as most skinny bags aren't taped shut either.

I should have waited until tomorrow to do these because I took 3mg of suboxone about 36 hours ago, so I'm not getting the full effect, but definitely 80%. I didn't seek out these bags and got a call about them instead, and I knew I wouldn't be able to sleep knowing I had them on me, so that's why I did them. That and I have work tomorrow, so would rather an 80% high at home as opposed to 100% high at work. I'm gonna skip my Saturday high and do a Sunday night high as my next high, keeping up with the 2x/week dope use.
 
its official i need a an extended break..i just cant seem to get high with out snorting a jab and thats even wit hte good dope ive been getting for the past 2 weeks..today when i went and copped the dope was obviously differnt and wasnt as good as it was 2 days ago and since ive had good dope, the dope today just wasnt cutting it..i had a jab but stopped at 10 bags cause i figured it wasnt gonna do the job and i might as well save the remaining bags for the next couple days..and then imma take a sub and let it ride out

i need to get back to the 5-7 bag tolerane instead of the 10-12 bags that ive been at recently..cause i alwyas usedto snort 2-3bags at a time and now with my tolerance being so high im doing 4 at once just so i can shorten up the time between each set and get the full amount up my nose in 30-40mins instead of slowy over 2 hours..thats the only way i catch a little nod if i snort 4bags at a time and when its done in 45mins...

i needa good 7-10days of nothing but subs.. cause those 3-4days i took off last week by using just a bag or 2 didnt really work..it just lowered my tolerance enough that when i got high again, it was only for that day that less bags worked but it went right back up after that..i really dont want to do this but i have to cause my nose cant take this snorting 10bags+ everyother day

you guys especially tommy really have no clue how much powder we get in our bags and its good when its good but when its not good, it really sucks..ive been alternating between my old connect and the other one ive been using since my old peoples shit kinda got weak..but it doesnt matter right now, nothing seems to be hitting me

i need to go to arizona and cop and tar and try and see if that works anybetter cause the shit right now just aint cutting it
 
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lol mr nosey with the million and one questions

nothing wrong with it i guess but damn you dont need to be in everyones business..i mean whats it matter how many subs someone gets or how much someone in another part of the country scored..i just dont see what those things matter

andno hate.. its nbdjs

Your always in everyones business too chinky! Always throwing in your two cents. Mr. know it all! eat a dick chinky!
I thought this was a HR site so your supposed to ask questions someone might not ask something cause they dont want chinky to ride them and then they end up doing something dumb thats not HR to me!
Its not like anyone is asking for phone numbers or addys.

I was just wondering cuz when i was on subs they only gave me a little bit!

Plus i always wanted to try tar!
 
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Just got a couple bags as a sample from a friend of mine. I already tossed the bags so I don't remember exactly but they were small white bags stamped with a few small stars across the bottom and it said first star or something above it in text. His guy told him they were from Jersey, they were actually decent. My tolerance is way down because I have only used like 2 or 3 times in the last 2 months but they seemed to pack a pretty good punch. The powder was a little darker than the usual tan/grey I get but it wasn't a dark brown either. Can't say I've ever seen it quite this color. They were a little fatter than the bags I was getting before but I guess I've heard everyone's bags have finally gotten heavier around here recently. I think I'm gonna grab a bundle this weekend and just not pick up more after it's gone, it's time for some fun. Free tester bags are always appreciated also
 
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lol mr nosey with the million and one questions

lmao, I love how you're so blunt all the time.

Anyways been doing heroin basically all this week and just finished my last bags, got roxicodone though even though I rather have dope. My friend is thinking about going to north philly to cop some dope but I don't know if she'll decide to go.... I'm not going to convince her to go even though I want to because she just got out of rehab again and also she has a kid... Shit, I felt bad doing dope with her and a car seat in the back but I justified it because its not as if its my kid (and no the kid wasn't with).. It was a good cover though. White girl driving with a car seat in the back, she wouldn't be actually copping dope. Haha that's how the cops always act towards her.

I wish I had my own car and then going on runs would be easier but at least my job is giving me more hours. Also one chick is about to have her baby so ill have her hours too. More money... Guess a good thing except when you know you won't be saving any of it when you actually should be.
 
lmao, I love how you're so blunt all the time.
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thats cause i dont bullshit, when you coming to chicago? lol

Your always in everyones business too chinky! Always throwing in your two cents. Mr. know it all! eat a dick chinky!
I thought this was a HR site so your supposed to ask questions someone might not ask something cause they dont want chinky to ride them and then they end up doing something dumb thats not HR to me!
Its not like anyone is asking for phone numbers or addys.

I was just wondering cuz when i was on subs they only gave me a little bit!

Plus i always wanted to try tar!

what do you know noob? you dont know me

i dont get into peoples business normally but if i do its cause ive known most of these people that post here for years, and we are friends, we talk on the phone, we text and respect each others opinions and thoughts..and theres nothing wrong with me throwing in my 2cents, people respect my opinions cause i speak the truth and dont sugarcoat bullshit like most others, when your stuck in your own ways,its hard to look at the big picture and thats what i try to do..i dont tell people what they should do, i just suggest things that they might not have thought about..

did you not read my post where i said "thers nothing wrong with asking questions" ?...its just every post you make is askin people questions and its questions we either all know the answer to already or questions that no one would ever care about..we have a thing called search engine you and you should UTFSE sometime..it would answer most of the questions you ask...like you just said " i always wanted to try tar" ok great but you asking it to someone who live 1000 miles away about what they copped is pointless, irrelevent and doesnt matter..how is knowing he scored half a gram relevent or have anything to do with you wanting to try tar, noithing and thats my point

and your right this site is about HR and if you then anything about me you would know that is what i strive for with my posts..i dont glamorize the drugs, i talk shit to people who do..and i report more posts then prolly everyother person in this forum..so if thats not me caring about harm reduction..i dont know what it
 
its official i need a an extended break..i just cant seem to get high with out snorting a jab and thats even wit hte good dope ive been getting for the past 2 weeks..today when i went and copped the dope was obviously differnt and wasnt as good as it was 2 days ago and since ive had good dope, the dope today just wasnt cutting it..i had a jab but stopped at 10 bags cause i figured it wasnt gonna do the job and i might as well save the remaining bags for the next couple days..and then imma take a sub and let it ride out

i need to get back to the 5-7 bag tolerane instead of the 10-12 bags that ive been at recently..cause i alwyas usedto snort 2-3bags at a time and now with my tolerance being so high im doing 4 at once just so i can shorten up the time between each set and get the full amount up my nose in 30-40mins instead of slowy over 2 hours..thats the only way i catch a little nod if i snort 4bags at a time and when its done in 45mins...

i needa good 7-10days of nothing but subs.. cause those 3-4days i took off last week by using just a bag or 2 didnt really work..it just lowered my tolerance enough that when i got high again, it was only for that day that less bags worked but it went right back up after that..i really dont want to do this but i have to cause my nose cant take this snorting 10bags+ everyother day

you guys especially tommy really have no clue how much powder we get in our bags and its good when its good but when its not good, it really sucks..ive been alternating between my old connect and the other one ive been using since my old peoples shit kinda got weak..but it doesnt matter right now, nothing seems to be hitting me

i need to go to arizona and cop and tar and try and see if that works anybetter cause the shit right now just aint cutting it

I've seen some pictures of your caps from a while back, and of some bags posted by someone else in the chicago dope thread recently, so I know you guys get so much more per 'bag' (be it caps, foils, baggies, etc) but I've gotta think that dormin accounts for a decent amount of the weight. I have never needed more than 4 bags to get high, unless they were tiny as fuck, so back when I used a lot and the bags were fat (probably just under a point each), I was probably maxing out at .3 per high. I just can't see your dope being that strong if you are getting at least twice as much in each bag compared to here. Like if the quality was the same then that would mean that 2 bags would be all I needed to get high, and I've been using dope since late 2006.

Granted I've only ever really gotten high 3x a week even at my peak, although I have used more times per week than that, but on the other days it was only a little to get by. I'm always surprised to hear about the nose problems you guys get, cause even though you get more powder per bag and I don't use that much, I know plenty of people that were sniffing more than 10 bags a day (one of my dealers was sniffing like 14 bags a day and that's back when the bags were closer to .1 each) and they never complained of nose problems.

How many days a week have you been getting high, like taking enough to get high and not just to get by? I've said before that the most I think a person can do and maintain the same tolerance is get high 2x a week. Any more than that and their tolerance will go up, and any less and their tolerance should go down a little. I've just never chased the high to the point of doing more and more bags to keep up with my tolerance, so I would just use less often until my tolerance went down.

If you take a sub break then my best advice is to wait as long as you can before taking the subs. I've found that if I only wait 24 hours then the suboxone doesn't work as good, so I end up taking a little more. But recently I waited closer to 48 hours, and 0.5mg kinda held me for the first day, and on day two of taking 0.5 I was fine. Now I know your tolerance is higher than mine, but 1mg should hold you, and 2mg definitely should. Don't stay at the same dose though, and take a little less with each day so that your tolerance can drop more.

One of the other reasons why I used today instead of Saturday and Sunday is because whenever I used two days in a row my tolerance is a lot higher the second day. Like last Saturday 4 bags had me puking, but on Sunday I didn't get that high from that same amount. So I figured I would try to avoid using 2 days in a row, so split it up a bit. I really want to get down to 1 day a week, with no subs or anything on the other days. My plan this week was to use the 2 days this week, but with no subs in between, and I was almost out of the woods the other day but I got hit with a bunch of shit I needed to get done, and I didn't want to do them while feeling shitty, so I grabbed a little bit of sub to get me going.
 
right now i only get high everyother day but when ,my tolerance was lower it would be every 2 days and then maybe 2days in a row on like friday and sat..my tolerance got fucked this last ime by a 3day binge after i took a week breeak..the first dfay i needed 4bags and then it was 5/12 and then 7 and then 7 after that and thats why it was so high...also i for 2-3months i was getting the best dope i ever had got and then it fell off and so i went from using 4-5bags of the good shit to 7 of the not good

about my Wds like ive always said my Wds dont start until the morning of day 2 after i use, meaning i use tonite and wont feel sick til sat morning and even then its not that bad of a wd..a little weed and me getting out hte house takes care of that..but sitting curled up in my bed makes it worse, you gotta get out and do things if your sick and then ill eaither take a sub or go cop to get high the next day...

when i use subs i dont use alot, 4mg oral or 2mg snifffed as a first dose and that 2mg can hold me 2days at least but sometimes ill take another 1mg and im good for like 5-6days then..subs work wonders to me but i think its cause i dont shoot and my Wds are very mild compared to others, like poeple who throw up and get shits and all that it doesnt happen

about our dope..ive told you a million times im sure your dope is better thats why your bags are smaller..but sometimes i talk to people and they say our bags are just as good as eastcoase bags but with more pwder..now yes the dormin is garbage but thats just how the clientele is used to it, iif we got handed bags klike your i dont think people would buy them and thast shit..you gotta remeber dormin is always a potentiator and thats why people dont mind it so much..i would be suprised that if you only need 2bags to get high off your dope, 2bags of mine would do the same, just with 3x the powder..who eally knows maybe our dope isnt as bad and one bag would fuck you up like 2 of your would, who really knows? when i comeout there ill be suire to bring a jab for you to try homie
 
when i lived in nyc and copped daily, the dope was good but chicago dope was better. nyc had a better [and when i say that i mean safer] open air market that was in a decent neighborhood. this was around 2001-2002'ish.
 
thats cause i dont bullshit, when you coming to chicago? lol
Yeah, that's right and its good.. Guess some people can't handle the truth but hey you got to keep it real. And chicago, one of these days hopefully. :) lol
 
I guess everyone's body is different. Chinky, with your tolerance, I am surprised you have to wait more than 24 hours to feel sick. I thought that I was getting pretty bad with my habit, and I only did 2 bags last nite, IV. Nice rush, and high for about 2 hours, not the 5 hours I wanted, but I settled for what I got. I was actually surprised at how good I did feel with those 2 bags. I usually do 4 over the course of a night. However, I usually start to feel "not right" within 24 hours. I do the suboxone and kratom tap dance inbetween my d0pe doses. I did some kratom this morning so I wouldn't be sick at work, but if I hadn't, having done 2 bags the night before, it is not uncommon for me to start to feel sick as early as 9am the next day. Sometimes, the more I do the night before, the worse I feel in the morning.
 
Hey SM0K3Y why tomorrow? pay day?
How many subs does your doc give you?

Tomorrow because that's the earliest I could set up. The soonest a sub doctor could get me in. The next earliest one is still 3 more weeks away. And I'm not sure how many I'm getting yet. I suspect in the ball park of at least 60/month, if not upwards of 90/mth if this guy is cool. Since I have a pretty heavy dosage and IV as well I'm likely to get some of the highest doses this guy has given.

Also I was aiming to see the doc this week because I have court on thurs for 3 felony charges, 1 drug and 2 weapons. So obviously if I say I'm on a doctor prescribed regiment of klonopins and suboxone they will probably take it a bit easier on me since I'm doing the right thing.

I guess everyone's body is different. Chinky, with your tolerance, I am surprised you have to wait more than 24 hours to feel sick. I thought that I was getting pretty bad with my habit, and I only did 2 bags last nite, IV. Nice rush, and high for about 2 hours, not the 5 hours I wanted, but I settled for what I got. I was actually surprised at how good I did feel with those 2 bags. I usually do 4 over the course of a night.

Yea my tolerance is like chinky's and I get sick within 18 hours usually. 12 hours for everything to really start moving out of me, 18 to be starting withdrawals.

And 4 over the course of a night... wow I wish I could save money like that. God I'd be a rich ass junkie...
 
I find it funny when people think cause they dont bang dope or havent jacked anything it doesnt make them a junkie! Its kinda like the kids who think they are better then any dope user cause they do roxys! Jerkoffs!
 
^^^^ Completely agree. Snorting a jab without getting high is crazy. At some point that ROA just isn't going to cut it anymore. I'll never say IV is a good idea or recommend it, its the worst decision i ever made, but when i couldn't get high from snorting i had to move on.

Hope the best to everyone on here, been lurking for awhile and finally started an account.
 
Damn chinky, it looks like you've got a pretty bad case of denial. Either that or we have different definitions of the word "junkie." I use half as much as you, both in quantity and frequency, and I consider myself a junkie. But to me a junkie is just another name for a heroin addict, and if you use dope you are either a chipper or a junkie. Then there's hardcore junkies who are on a whole nother level, but if you've got a heroin habit and you think about getting high a lot, then that's a junkie to me. So maybe we've got different definitions of the word, but there is no doubt that you are a heroin addict.

When you IV the sickness tends to set in quicker than for those who snort, it's all about how quickly it's eliminated from your system

Completely agree, and that's one of the things that has kept me away from IVing. Whenever I did it I started getting sick so much faster than when I would snort it, so I said fuck it and stuck to snorting.

I find it funny when people think cause they dont bang dope or havent jacked anything it doesnt make them a junkie! Its kinda like the kids who think they are better then any dope user cause they do roxys! Jerkoffs!

We're actually having a discussion on that here, but it's specific to heroin addiction.

^^^^ Completely agree. Snorting a jab without getting high is crazy. At some point that ROA just isn't going to cut it anymore. I'll never say IV is a good idea or recommend it, its the worst decision i ever made, but when i couldn't get high from snorting i had to move on.

Hope the best to everyone on here, been lurking for awhile and finally started an account.

I just can't chase the high like that because I know that if I switch to IVing that it's only a temporary fix, and since I would be getting sicker quicker I would be using twice as often, so even if I was able to use half as much to get high, it would equal out since I'd be doing it twice as often.

Some people consider it to be less of an addict, but really the only reason I control my use like that is so that I can keep getting high. Instead of switching to IV to get high I take tolerance breaks. It's the only way to make it in the long run in the game, and it beats needing to come up with money everyday just to keep the sick away, and then finding a vein, etc... I've just never bought into the "IVing is better since you can get high with less" since everybody that I know that IV's shoots more bags than I sniff to get high, and even if they went from sniffing 6 bags to shooting 3 at first, they ended up having to use daily so now they are shooting just as many bags as they used to sniff. Like I said I think about it in the long run, instead of just focusing on my next high, and that's what has let me be able to keep my tolerance steady at sniffing 4 bags to get has high as I want, or even less if it's good stuff. I don't deny that it's still a bad habit though, but it's not as bad as needing a fix each day.
 
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Hey everybody whats good.. so i went to the clinic an hour ago and got my dose, and my take home. i decided to double dose, so im on 200 mgs of methadone, instead of my usual 100 mgs. this should have nice effects. ima be noddin out all day till i go to work at 3. win..


chinky: if you cant get high from snorting a jab (14 fucking bags!?) thats fucked up son. think about it, 14 motherfucking bags.

your dope must be shit. it must be all that dormin. with tar all i ever need to get a good high is .1-.2, but usually just .1. the shit really is fire, unlike yours, mr snort 14 bags to get high.

youre right man, time to take a break. its just pointless if you cant even get off on 14 bags.
 
^ You shoulda did like 160mg so you would have a little something for tomorrow if it starts to wear off. I guess you will find out if it'll hold you the whole time, which it probably will at that dose. Good luck stopping nodding at 3 though. The nod from done lasts all day for me, the few time I tried it.

I still don't understand how you could be straight off of .1 for your whole dope career. It doesn't make since at all. Like lets say with Opana, someones gonna be able to get high off of a few mgs at first, and then end up needing 160mg or something. Or people on oxy at doses of 900mg doesn't mean that their oxy was shitty, because it's all the same. So saying you can get high off of .1 all the time, driving you to get on methadone, well that's like someone that only needs the same dose of a pharmaceutical opiate each day, which would never happen due to tolerance.

My tolerance stays the same but that's with only using 2x a week. Anything more than that and my tolerance starts to go up. So even if your dope is 100% pure, you are going to be needing more and more to get high. And if you somehow didn't, then I don't know why on earth you would be on 100mg of methadone.
 
Rockmonster when I was on the 'done it was about the same as your dose and double dozing on Saturday got me high but after a few hours I would get the worst headaches I've ever had. Of course I tryied it a few times and headache everytime.

I would start feeling shitty late Sunday night when I doubled up, but the clinic opened at 5:30am so it wasn't too bad.

Tommyboy, rockmonster never said how many times a day he would smoke. I'm gonna assume that .1 would not last him all day. If it did then he is on way too much methadone and he will learn to hate it in time. When I was on it I felt the same way he did it was life changing. But i didn't want to be on it for life and put up with all the clinic bullshit.
 
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