120 litres of PMMA oil seized in Sydney

Si Ingwe said:
There are still underhand characters running legitimate pharmacuetical companies, so even if drugs were entirely legal, there would still be scope for criminal activity, diluted or inactive products, poisonous additives etc etc etc

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I have no information with regards to bad seeds running pharma companies (which I don't doubt), but last I checked, all of my meds I get from the pharmacy have the dosages of what drug on the pack....I have never received a diluted product from the pharmacy, how is that possible if the mg dosage is on the pack or pills?
 
slimvictor said:
I don't believe that anyone should be punished for possession or selling of any kind of drug.
However, that belief is hard-pressed in cases like these with PMMA, and part of me is really happy that those people are going to jail.
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There is no moral problem here. These people weren't aiming to supply a drug market with what the user wants (which is what none of us believe should be punishable by a law). These people were intending to deceive and manipulate, seemingly without caring whether or not they killed in the process, and it's that reason we're all happy to see these people face trial. The fact that the police and prosecutors work within a law that is structured to carry out a political drug war is mere serendipity here.

Pretty much most of me is hoping these fuckers get as long a sentence as is possible.
 
If drugs were legal the unregulated manufacture of such drugs would remain illegal and rightly so, you don't want any dick fooling around with toxic chemicals like that, I'd be happy to see him go to jail in either scenario.
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
There is no moral problem here. These people weren't aiming to supply a drug market with what the user wants (which is what none of us believe should be punishable by a law). These people were intending to deceive and manipulate, seemingly without caring whether or not they killed in the process, and it's that reason we're all happy to see these people face trial. The fact that the police and prosecutors work within a law that is structured to carry out a political drug war is mere serendipity here.

Pretty much most of me is hoping these fuckers get as long a sentence as is possible.
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It is not really serendipity. The fact remains that the system that is pursuing these people is cruel and wrong.
They happen to be getting it "right" (imo) this time, but most times they don't.
 
slimvictor said:
It is not really serendipity. The fact remains that the system that is pursuing these people is cruel and wrong.
They happen to be getting it "right" (imo) this time, but most times they don't.
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I would agree here. If the proper laws were in place, they never would have been in this situation in the first place.
 
The less PMA/PMMA being passed around and sold as MDMA, the better.

If this 60 year old man was in fact planning on deceiving MDMA dealers and/or users by selling them what looks like double stacked "dr. death" pills (or he already has), then I believe he deserves to be locked away and not because he was selling a controlled substance (PMMA), but rather, because of the dishonest, potentially life-threatening scam artistry.

Either way, it's doubtful that many people would have bought the PMMA if they were told it's PMMA.
 
He should be locked away as he poses a danger to life, pure & simple. In all honesty, that's the only reason to lock someone up. If they pose a danger to the lives of other people & that can be proven, bang! Simples!

teological said:
I have no information with regards to bad seeds running pharma companies (which I don't doubt), but last I checked, all of my meds I get from the pharmacy have the dosages of what drug on the pack....I have never received a diluted product from the pharmacy, how is that possible if the mg dosage is on the pack or pills?
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I have to admit it's pretty rare, probably because the profits in pharmacueticals are already so huge & because great skill is often required to synthesise drugs, but counterfeit drugs & other under-handed behaviour does appear in the pharmacuetical business.

The World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that up to 1% of medicines available in the developed world are likely to be counterfeit. This figure rises to 10% globally, although in some developing countries they estimate one third of medicines are counterfeit.

Counterfeit medicine is now a truly global phenomenon, at first thought to only affect developing countries, now known to impact upon developed countries.

Counterfeiters now also target the most lucrative markets, copying high value, high turnover, high demand medicines.

The UK is not typically a manufacturer of counterfeit medicine, however the UK is a transit point and end user market.

There have been ten recalls of counterfeit medicines in the UK since 2004, which had reached pharmacy and patient levels.

A further seven cases were discovered at wholesaler level before they reached the market.

Counterfeit medicine is more commonly available to consumers via on line pharmacies, the WHO estimate 50% of medicines available from sites which conceal their physical address are counterfeit.
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From - http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Safetyinform...erfeitmedicinesanddevices/Falsifiedmedicines/
 
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