11th Issue Heroin Discussion v. So I warmed the piss up in my mouth

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One sign of oxygen deprivation is a large headache upon awakening, you may not have been breathing much. Happens to me when I do large doses of depressants (even alcohol, I've been told by girlfriends that sometimes I don't breathe for minutes at a time in my sleep when I pass out drunk). Do you snore or gasp when you sleep?
 
I dont snore but my nostrils have been clogged up to all hell for what feels like a fucking month. Ive been sneezing out gross-ass snot for the past 3 weeks. Probably not a good idea to snort the stuff but I wont IV it and feel like smoking it would be a waste. All I have to combat this is Ocean Saline Nasal spray, but Im thinking I need some OTC medicine. Is there anything I could take that wouldnt react negatively with the H?
 
Tommyboy said:
It's actuallly the bupe that is also an antagonist that rips most anything else out. It binds better than naloxone, which is why naloxone is pointless in suboxone, but anyway they would both work in the event of an opiate overdose, meaning subutex would work just fine as well.
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are you sure subutex would work in a sitation like that? i always thought it was just because of the naloxone
 
Well the bupe does have a higher affinity to the same receptors as the naloxone. Not something I would bank on and of course professional help is always the way to go first but in a pinch it's certainly better than nothing. I mean people do shoot suboxone and don't experience any of the negative effects of the naloxone and that's thought to be because of the higher affinity. If that's true than it's reasonable to think that it's the bupe in the suboxone saving overdosers and not the naloxone.
 
MemphisX3 said:
are you sure subutex would work in a sitation like that? i always thought it was just because of the naloxone
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Anybody that has dosed subutex too soon after other opiates are sure.

And +1 to what JB said. It's not something to rely on but can be used in a pinch.
 
today was a shitty day, especially since the d-girl is driving down to the city to reup. supposedly bring a bunch of shit back (normally she'll have the same stamp for months) this week though and told me she'd throw personal-use bags to me at cost if i helped her out with my klonopin script (which is cool since im over prescribed).

in the mean time it's just 2mg klonopin, 4mg subutex sublingual, 4mg subutex nasal (saline solution in spray bottle), with another 8mg strip for shiggles on the table and a friend with weed who comes home in an hour and a half.

also on the plus side, after the incident the other night, my brother gave me his old/my favorite shotgun to keep for safety (especially since he's moving out in a month and my parents do not own firearms). it's old, nothing special, but is buttery smooth and like a damn laser gun in my hands since ive been shooting it for years. Went to the gun shop and now have both buckshot and hollowpoint. When it comes to it, i'm a pacifist 98% of the time. guns terrify me, which is why I had my police friend teach me about/ train me with his issued firearms when I still played D1 paintball with him. but if it comes down to you or my family, well, yea. I'm just still shaken up from everything from the other night.

but now she's asleep in her lock box while i feel all warm and fuzzy inside while everything kicks in
 
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Jeebis why you takin so much subs? Don't tell me you get much higher/any higher at all with each dose.. theres no way.

Copped today, gettin high. Good day.
 
OpiateGuy said:
Jeebis why you takin so much subs? Don't tell me you get much higher/any higher at all with each dose.. theres no way.

Copped today, gettin high. Good day.
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oral dose got me "high"/ feeling fine, the rest was just to maintain that as I spread it throughout the day.

oh well. time to work on some remixes then move out.
 
It's been a while since I took an extended break from opiates. I've been going pretty steady since late July, with 10 days being the longest break since then. I think I've said before that a lot of people, including myself, just learn to be more efficient at balancing life and their drug use. One of the reasons I haven't stopped completely is because there isn't much of a reason to since I'm not really experiencing the negative effects with the rate that I use. I've kept it to 2x a week for a while now, 3x being the most, but that's rare. So money isn't an issue, tolerance isn't an issue, nobody in my family knows I use so no issue there, and it keeps me from drinking a lot.

It really is a bitch to quit though. If you are dependent then you gotta keep using to keep from getting sick. If you take a break, then you just kinda don't know what to do with yourself, so figure you will take advantage of the lowered tolerance and get a real good high. If you've taken a longer break and use, then you figure you might as well capitalize on having the lower tolerance, and next thing you know you are back to square 1.

I'm probably gonna cop today. I did on Monday so I should probably wait til tomorrow, but I'm in a period of insomnia so I need it to sleep. The insomnia isn't really withdrawal related even though I do usually get 1 shitty night of sleep when I stop now. I usually get 3 days of no sleep every couple of months, even when I was off all opiates for 4-5 month periods the last 3 years, so I can tell the difference between wd insomnia and these random bouts of insomnia.
 
im the same waqy 3 maybe 4x a week on a bad weekand really its just been recently cause the dope has beenn so good
 
Yeah, I've been this way lately too (except I have ended up overpaying for shitty pills more often than not lately so money-wise it still sucks). I haven't been a daily user in a long time, and I was actually clean for several months but for the past few months I have been using a few times a week. Usually ends up being Monday (because mondays suck) and Wednesday (because a good friend of mine works about 60-70 hours a week but she has thursday mornings off) nights, sometimes Thursdays too (cause that's when I get paid and often times my friend will toss me some on wednesday and I have to go over there to pay him back anyway, might as well grab some more while I'm there :\). Then I have so much shit to do on the weekends that I don't need to get high those days.

It does somewhat keep me away from booze too, I'm a straight-up alkie when I'm clean, but even if I only use a few times a week my drinking gets cut by like 90% and that's the days that I don't get high. Days I get high I don't really drink at all unless it's the random occurrence where I'll have a beer with a friend who showed up or something
 
My dope schedule is usually 1 or 2 weekdays, and then one day on the weekend. The weekends are the best time for me to get high though because I'm able to get my bags early in the day, so I can be high all day and not screw my sleep pattern up. If I wanna get high during the week I usually have to wait until like 10pm, and then I end up being up until 5am chain-smoking.
 
yeah i still havent got high early in the day..to me gettin high is a nighttime thing, well after 6pm..i can honestly say theres been less then 5x that ive evver gotten high on opiates before 530-6pm, and that goes all the way back tpo when i would eat pills..the ony thing ill do early is smoke some weed and i dont normally like drinking before the 530-6pm mark cause im not a heavy drinker anymore and if i start drinkin at 2pm, im gonna wanna be sleeping by like 9 or10

even if im sick as shit, i will wait..not to say i havent snorted a bag in the afternoon to get rud of the sick but normally thats if im goin to a game or out with myfriend or like at the lake on a little vacation..like whne im at the lake i dont get high at all, i just bring a couple bags to keep the sick off for a coupe days cause if im gonna be out riding jet skies and drinkin beers, i cant be sick wearing shirts or jeans when its 85out cause "im cold and have the chills" so then ill do a half a bag or maybe a full bag when i get up and that will last me the whole day and i an go about busineess normal
 
Not sure if anyone cares, but had my court date today. It was a tiny place, I went to Mayor's Court lol. Anyway, plead down to Criminal Mischief, just the minimum fine and court fees. She said she normally would give me probation, but she didn't. Probably cause I had no prior drug charges, and was one of like two people wearing a nice shirt and tie (there were seriously like 60 people in this tiny room, was nuts). All in all probably the best thing I could hope for.
 
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I was very surprised at how few people get dressed up for court. I don't think I ever wore a tie, but I had a nice collared shirt, khakis, nice shoes (not sneakers). Meanwhile most other people look like they rolled out of bed and came in. I thought dressing up was a respect thing. Like I respect the court, the judge, and the process enough to not look like a bum for a few hours.

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Hadn't used anything in 10 days (sub) and hadn't used dope in 15 days. Bought some bags today, was a little disappointed in them. The dudes quality is usually better. They were decent, but usually if I've taken a break this dudes dope will get me lit if I bang up 1-2 bags. Sometimes even less than a bag if there was a long enough break. The dude was a little off today. I think he uses once in a while and he definitely seemed high or something today. I called him up and asked if he was around, told him I'd be in the spot and how much money I had. Then I drove there, sat there for ten minutes, called him back and had the same exact conversation with him. Least he came around after the second call.

It was really nice out today and I was looking kind of sharp with my clean white kicks and a white collared shirt. The pharmacy I go to get needles is pretty hood right on the corner of an intersection. There was a lot of people outside today, especially on the corner, so I was getting a lot of looks when I pulled up. I was getting eye-balled a bit walking back to my car carrying the small paper bag the pharmacy puts needles in, and I was very tempted to put a little swagger in my step and yell out, "It's Omar! Watch out Omar comin' y'all. Omar comin'!" I just been watching The Wire too much I guess. It probably would have went over most peoples heads, but I bet someone would have gotten the reference and laughed or shot at me, either or.


In a semi-related note. There has been a lot more people rocking red colors in the city over the last few years. In 08 there'd be some people, but a lot more people wearing something red now. Obviously they're not all gang-related, but the bloods are definitely getting big over here.
 
Carl Landrover said:
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I was very surprised at how few people get dressed up for court. I don't think I ever wore a tie, but I had a nice collared shirt, khakis, nice shoes (not sneakers). Meanwhile most other people look like they rolled out of bed and came in. I thought dressing up was a respect thing. Like I respect the court, the judge, and the process enough to not look like a bum for a few hours.
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Yeah man, like how can these people be so stupid? I don't wear a suit and tie or anything but I dress nice and cut my hair and shave and shit. I'm pretty sure I always wear the same khakis and button down shirt too cause I don't have many nice clothes but that's fine as long as you do something decent. It makes me wonder when I see people with long ass nasty hair and beards wearing paint spattered sweat pants and work boots like they don't give a fuck, or some black dude wearing baggy-ass pants and some ghetto looking hoodie and the guard actually has to tell them to take their hat off. Like you never thought that it might be a good idea to try to appear respectful? I mean, I'm a piece of crap but I act like I'm attempting to be a respectable human being. I say things like "yes your honor" not "yeeyuh". Or "No sir" not "Nawh". I don't know if they just really don't know better or what but god damn it's pretty fucking stupid. At least try. It can only help you.


Carl Landrover said:
In a semi-related note. There has been a lot more people rocking red colors in the city over the last few years. In 08 there'd be some people, but a lot more people wearing something red now. Obviously they're not all gang-related, but the bloods are definitely getting big over here.
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Starting to see lots of bloods? What city you in Carl?
 
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