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1 Dram Blue Glass Vials with Dropper

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Okay lets say someone has 1 Dram Blue Glass Vial with Dropper and they put in 1 gram of AMT into it and mix it with water....(how much water should they put in the vial that has 1 Gram of AMT in it)....... How much AMT should come out the dropper per every drop....


If that wont work what size Blue Glass Vial with Dropper would i have to get ,and how much water would i have to put into it, so that i can put 1Gram of AMT into it, and know how much AMT is being dropped out the dropper....

I pretty much want to have a Blue Glass Vial with Dropper and have AMT in it and know how much AMT is in each drop that the dropper drops....

i am high as fuck, hope that make sense... if it don't just tell me wtf i gotta do to make sure i know how much AMT is comming out the dropper Per drop....


Thanks in advance =D
 
Since this is concerning a psychedelic tryptamine, you'll probably come across more users in PD with experience so we can try this over there. We do have a lot of liquid dosing discussion in OD so if anyone would like to try it out back over here instead, please feel free to send it back :)



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No idea, you will have to test this. How?

(Read this whole thing first and follow it step by step in your mind, if you do not understand what I mean, ask it, if you still do not understand don't do it or you might fuck it up and overdose yourself or your friends!!!!)

- First take out the AMT powder and store it somewhere else like a baggie.
-Then proceed to put in a volume of water that fills the vial approximately half or 3 quarters.
- Weigh the total of the vial plus the water.
- Then take out a number of drops with the dropper, say 100 or 200. Count them! Make it a nice rounded number.
- Stop when or preferably before the level of liquid is going below the level of the dropper.
- Weigh it again.
- Distract the second weight from the first weight, that is the weight of water you took out.
- Convert the weight to the volume, it's super easy: 1 mg is 1 ul (microliter), or 1 g is 1 ml.
- Divide the volume of water by the number of drops you counted taking out, that gives you the volume PER DROP.
- Then think of a dose per drop you want that is convenient but not so high that it will matter too much on whether you have large or small drops. Maybe something like 5 mg per drop.
- Think of how many drops you think fit into the vial, take the number of about half or three quarters of that which should be a well rounded number.
- Multiply that number of drops by the dose per drop, say 100 drops x 5 mg per drop = 500 mg
- Weigh that much AMT.
- Multiply the number of drops by the volume per drop, say 5 ul (0.005 ml) x 100 drops = 500 ul (= 0.5 ml = 500 mg).
- Put your vial on your scale and add as much water as weighs that mass, say 500 mg (meaning you added 500 ul).
- Add the AMT.
- Stir and wait, optionally heat it gently by holding the vial in a container of hot water and swirling.
- If you have AMT freebase it will NOT dissolve! You will have to add a few drops of vinegar or another acid. It cannot be a whole lot otherwise it will screw up your calculations. That is when it could get tricky.
 
or just get a dropper with .25mL tick marks on it so that you know how much your dosing & not relying on fuzzy "drop" size. Don't think the extra $2-5 will hurt you too bad ;)
 
OP, don't take this the wrong way but I think you're better off just sticking with dry powder and 0.001g scale dosing for this one.

good laboratory technique takes practice, so go ahead and buy several glass dropper vials of various sizes, and be prepared to PRACTICE HANDS ON with plain water and table salt before you feel steady enough to swiftly and safely use non-volumetric tools for volumetric dosing. what I mean is, EACH DROP from a dropper vial like that can be different in size, depending on the steadiness of your hand, the temperature of the liquid, and probably the number of sunspots currently visible from Artemis II.

personally I would avoid putting more than 10 doses (<250mg AMT) in a single bottle. there is simply too much risk of someone discovering your stash and being a retard, a la Fear and Loathing.

I have had success with 2C-E in a similar dropper vial as you are attempting, but it was at a concentration of approx 10mg/ml (making the 1dram = 3.6ml = 36mg). Each dropperfull (NOT DROP!) thus contained about 5mg 2C-E, which was sufficient enough for my personal dosing because i could then divide the dropper into 15 or so drops which gave finer control of dosing. But remember your precision is only 20% at best when working with drops, so you might get 16mg one time, and 24mg another time, and probably way more off than that in practice.

the correct volumetric method is to use a needle-free syringe (like that for baby cough syrup) which has clear divisions per 0.1ml, giving you much closer to 5% precision. i know you're trying to go for the "psychedelic sorcerer" blue vial feeling, though, so here's my own suggestion:

1. obtain a 0.001g scale and practice using it. perhaps grab a lab chemistry textbook from goodwill or something, so you can see correct lab technique. (weigh 500mg of salt, take it off, turn the scale off, on, and weigh again, compare results). I should not have to mention that you MUST have a pen and paper next to your scale to take IMPECCABLE NOTES. learn about tare mass and using differences!
2. once you are familiar with your technique, place approx 20mg AMT into the smallest vial. The exact value is not important, but it IS important that you WRITE IT DOWN. Also weigh the vial+AMT together to get a tare value.
3. Using the dropper, add distilled water one drop at a time. Take a note of how much each drop weighs as you add it. The density of water is ~1g/ml at room temperature.
4. Stop adding water when you feel that you're at the level you want to be equal to the ~20mg "dose" of AMT. take a note of the ratio of AMT and mass of water so you can multiply it upwards to your larger vial.
5. Swirl the vial to ensure solution. if the AMT does not dissolve, you either have freebase AMT (see the vinegar comment, and read up on organic salts) or you did not use enough water to dissolve your AMT. There is a certain visible difference between the two situations, which you can look online for more information.
6. once you have your ratios decided, the rest is pie ;) and i'd be glad to help you out with it when you get to that step.
 
You can accomplish almost nothing with table salt except the practice of handling powders/crystals and solutions. If you mess up the calculation with table salt there is no way to tell so you might think you totally got it right and feel a false confidence in what you're doing.

2C-E sounds like a horrible compound to do that way, by the by greenmeanie. :) Small therapeutic index and what not.

As I intended with my disclaimer but will say again: reconsider what you want to do, we cannot judge whether you are capable of doing this without error. People who should do this are the ones that either have an education in chemistry, high school chem at the very least and good at it. Or people who are clearly smart enough to understand these things by logic but again also basic education.

Also, don't make this plan an accomplishment!! You have nothing to prove to anyone so I am with the above poster to say that you should just weigh each individual dose and not be what he called a psychedelic sorcerer, a protagonist of sorts.
 
Wouldn't it be more accurate to fill a ten or even sixty cc syringe with the solution after it's been mixed? Maybe something like everclear or propylene glycol would be a better candidate for dissolution than plain tap water?

I never trusted droppers for liquid dosing...

i am high as fuck

Wait until that is no longer the case before attempting ANYTHING like this. Be safe.
 
Unless you get your volume per drop from literature (if that is even possible) it doesn't matter when using my instructions because it includes counting drops in a volume (actually mass using density)... but still not a bad thing to remember.

Even though I did it myself I would rather not have this thread bumped anymore unless it is the TS.
 
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