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Misc 1,4-Butanediol and GHB
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Hedgeclipper
Greenlighter
I've never taken it, but it seems like it would be pretty different from GHB. It's a pretty nasty industrial solvent. I guess it is a prodrug for GHB, but it needs three different enzymes for that to really happen, so is all of this nasty stuff really gonna be converted? I don't know but it seems like a pretty dirty drug to me. I'd rather just take GHB.
sekio
Bluelight Crew
It's not any "dirtier" than GHB, it just has a different pharmacokinetic profile (higher potency per gram, longer onset, longer duration). Conversion to GHB is actually pretty rapid and complete, and the diol has been proven to lack activity when infused directly into rats brains. Don't drink stuff that's Chinese plastics grade and you'll be OK...
GBL is also a "nasty industrial solvent that needs enzymatic activity to be converted" too, but people don't whine and complain about it feeling "toxic".
GBL is also a "nasty industrial solvent that needs enzymatic activity to be converted" too, but people don't whine and complain about it feeling "toxic".
Mercurious
Bluelighter
I'd agree completely with what sekio says above, and I consumed gallons of the stuff in the late nineties. It's largerly interchangeable interms of overall effects with GHB and GBL, but they are all palpably different and unique from one another in subtle yet distinguishable ways.
Again, sekio is correct when he mentions the higher potency and longer effects of 1,4-BD versus the others. But to distinguish it more from the others, subjectively I'd add that in my experience (though it's been awhile) the effect of 1,4-BD always tended to be of a slightly more inebriating quality--perhaps most evident in muscular response and overall physical coordination--than did that of GHB or GBL. At least until unconsciousness creeps up on you--then they are all equally incapacitating.
At any rate, this inebriation isn't "dirtier" (as sekio again remarks above) than the others I've tried, but I'd venture to suggest that it is perhaps a bit sloppier at times, if that makes sense.
Again, sekio is correct when he mentions the higher potency and longer effects of 1,4-BD versus the others. But to distinguish it more from the others, subjectively I'd add that in my experience (though it's been awhile) the effect of 1,4-BD always tended to be of a slightly more inebriating quality--perhaps most evident in muscular response and overall physical coordination--than did that of GHB or GBL. At least until unconsciousness creeps up on you--then they are all equally incapacitating.
At any rate, this inebriation isn't "dirtier" (as sekio again remarks above) than the others I've tried, but I'd venture to suggest that it is perhaps a bit sloppier at times, if that makes sense.
i have tons of experience with ghb, bdo and gbl..ghb is the 'cleanest' high of them all..1.4 bute got me just as high as Ghb but it did have a more alcohol type sloppy high associated with it..that said, i never once got dizzy or threw up after taking too much 1.4 bute whereas with ghb if i took too much id get very dizzy and i would be throwing up..
so basically id sum it up as 1.4 bute is almost identical to ghb but has a more alcohol/sloppy type inebriation feeling to it..i can understand when people would say the 1.4 bute high is dirtier than Ghb and that makes sense to me..
so basically id sum it up as 1.4 bute is almost identical to ghb but has a more alcohol/sloppy type inebriation feeling to it..i can understand when people would say the 1.4 bute high is dirtier than Ghb and that makes sense to me..
