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1,2 methylenedioxy-compound

andreas

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if SWIM (sorry) had isosafrol but the dioxy bridge was on the 1 and 2 carbons of the benzene ring how would this change the activity of the end isopropylamine.

I looked around on the net and cant find this compound, I can only guess it would be similar to 3,4 MDMA.

has anyone heard of 1,2 MDMA and has anyone had any
 
if SWIM (sorry) had isosafrol but the dioxy bridge was on the 1 and 2 carbons of the benzene ring how would this change the activity of the end isopropylamine.

I looked around on the net and cant find this compound, I can only guess it would be similar to 3,4 MDMA.

has anyone heard of 1,2 MDMA and has anyone had any

I'm no chemist, but I don't think this is possible as the isopropyl(methyl)amine chain occupies the 1 position on MDx molecules using the typical (i.e. non IUPAC) numbering scheme.

Moving the MD group to the 2,3 position (so that it is adjacent to the chain as opposed to across from it as with 3,4) makes these drugs into "plain" stimulants.

from the MDA entry in pihkal...

PIHKAL said:
A final isomer to be mentioned is a positional isomer. The 3,4-methylene-dioxy group could be at the 2,3-position of the amphetamine skeleton, giving 2,3-methylenedioxyamphetamine, or ORTHO-MDA. It appears to be a stimulant rather than another MDA. At 50 milligrams, one person was awake and alert all night, but reported no MDA-like effects.

I have read that 2.3-MDMA is also devoid of entactogen like effects, but I don't feel like looking up the ref.
 
if SWIM (sorry) had isosafrol but the dioxy bridge was on the 1 and 2 carbons of the benzene ring how would this change the activity of the end isopropylamine.

I looked around on the net and cant find this compound, I can only guess it would be similar to 3,4 MDMA.

has anyone heard of 1,2 MDMA and has anyone had any

If you are aware that "SWIM" is not used here (you apologize after saying SWIM", why are you using it anyway?
 
this is probably better suited in advance drug discussion..

I kinda disagree.

Like it was said, 1,2-methylenedioxy is not possible because the ethylamine chain is on the 1-position. Only positions 2-6 are available.

2,3-MDA however is supposedly a stimulant.
 
Why bother with pointless "I-have-no-idea-of-organic-nomenclature-and-am-not-able-to-describe-my-compound-properly"??? DRAW the compound in question (use MS Paint if you have really no clue), then upload it to ImageShack and present us a copy here. Maybe then you'll get your answer. Everything else is a waste of time for the people who are trying to provide an answer.

- Murphy
 
Didn't Shulgin try a bunch of the obvious analogs for MDMA and come up with jack in terms of stuff thats fun to take?

I think you need stuff in the 3-4-5 positions to get serotonin release from amphetamines and cathinones, otherwise you get straight stimulants.
 
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