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lecroute said:
like when the default is to have children (which still is), and i'm asked about *my* children and i say: i have none.
that's caused strange reactions in some people, from pitiful to openly hostile.
and it's not that i volunteer this information. it's a question i can't just ignore without being outright impolite.

that compared to the question about a person's sexuality, which might not be asked that often.
or maybe it's a new trend?
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You're exactly correct
You're experiencing the effects of differing from the social norm

It really isn't just asking about someone's sexuality, its things like asking if they're married or plan to have kids. Maybe they're gay and can't legally marry in their area? These and other questions tend to get at that core information by assuming everyone meets the default
 
mal3volent said:
I think you know what I'm getting at.

It's a little disingenuous for a gay person in the United States in 2024 to call themselves oppressed. Yet we still have pride events and our own month.

Why can't heterosexuals be proud too?

As prevalent as our issues have been advertised for decades, maybe they feel a bit of social stigma? I'd imagine it could be pretty isolating to be an average straight white male these days. Especially on social media.
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But what are they proud of specifically
 
alasdairm said:
interesting.

broadly speaking, do you believe in equal rights? e.g. if a man has a right to vote, a woman should have the same right to vote? if a same-race couple want to get married, a mixed-race couple should have the same right to be married?

alasdair
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it's not about what i believe to be right.
it's about fighting my own fights and not somebody else's.

in my own opinion nobody should feel the need to get legally married in the first place.
or to have a partner, or children.
so if someone says they are happy living with two wives and a husband, that's their choice. they shouldn't have to fight for the right to live this way. but if they have, it's their thing, not mine.
 
someguyontheinternet said:
But what are they proud of specifically
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Their individuality. All the things about them that makes them who they are.

You don't think they deserve to have their own little community like everyone else?

I don't get why oppression means you get to be proud and others don't. Especially when the oppression you face is basically nothing.

The oppression Olympics thing is stupid. Half these people running around crying about being oppressed have rich mommies and daddies and never had to struggle for anything in their lives.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppression_Olympics

I had to look that up, and it left me speechless:

"Oppression Olympics is a characterization of marginalization as a competition to determine the relative weight of the overall oppression of individuals or groups, often by comparing race, gender, socioeconomic status or disabilities, in order to determine who is the worst off, and the most oppressed."

this all sounds very sad to me, and i pity the people who take part in such a thing.
i pity them not because they are "oppressed" but because they decide to focus on complaining about the negative things in their lives instead of using that energy to change their situation.

and when i say "pity" it is not meant as something positive
 
lecroute said:
in my own opinion nobody should feel the need to get legally married in the first place
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that was just an example.

lecroute said:
it's about fighting my own fights and not somebody else's
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do you think that, for example, white people who supported and fought for black people to have the vote were suspicious and should have just butted out and left that fight to black people alone?

on a smaller scale, if an associate of yours was having an issue - say they were scammed or assaulted and you could help them fight it legally by, say, providing evidence - you don't help? it's not your fight, it's somebody else's?

just curious and trying to understand.

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
on a smaller scale, if an associate of yours was having an issue - say they were scammed or assaulted and you could help them fight it legally by, say, providing evidence - you don't help? it's not your fight, it's somebody else's?
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depending on the relationship i have with the person, i would or wouldn't fight.
i do it for people i consider close, and who are okay with me picking up their cause, and together with them as a team.
i don't do it for strangers, no.
 
lecroute said:
so straight people who are proud of being born male/female can be part of that, too?
nobody will see them as outsiders?

the thing with children is: monkey sees, monkey does.
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They are welcome to attend, but the day is not for them.
It’s like trying to make Juneteenth about white people or Holocaust Remembrance Day about Christians.
 
Jeanpauldash said:
Once someone actually confronted me about it at work going through my check out lane, actually fucking asked me what my pronouns are. What the fuck
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That doesn’t seem like a “confrontation”.
That seems like someone wanting to identify you correctly in order to be respectful and affirming.
 
Dropperneck said:
I like to keep things short and sweet. Most people aren’t against lgbt, even among conservatives. Lgbt issues and race being used as an ideology and a way to divide is what annoys us. If you don’t bow down to it’s every tenant and swear your allegiance to the establishment then you are branded anti lgbt. Sort goes with the logic of this classic smuggy.
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I usually like to keep things Short and sweet too, but I just had to blast off.
I know this out of nowhere.
And so random
 
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