Recovery ⫸⫸ THE RECOVERY THREAD 2020 ⫷⫷

[KubrixOrange]

1 is too many and 1,000 is never enough.

This is my favorite NA saying.

It's right on - i'm never satisfied anymore with stimulants. And with opioids? Never even got the trend.

Sick and tired of being broke.

Finally have some cash built up.

Feels good to be a mere pot head. It really reduces cravings.

I like that saying too. It applies to every aspect of our lives.
My personal favorite saying is

“through our inability to accept personal responsibility, we were actually creating our own problems”

 

[Rio Fantastic]

Love the quotes guys! I'll share one that resonated with me that I heard at SMART yesterday:

"Don't water dead plants"

aka don't obsess over the past. My girlfriend broke up with me, partially as a result of my using, and I was ruminating over it a lot in the past week I've been clean. That was a pithy reminder that what I was doing was pointless, and I'm catching myself now and focusing on other things when I find myself pointlessly going over the past in my mind.

 

[ieatstamps]

I'm attempting to get off IV opiates and wondering if I used 1mg suboxone every night for 4 days ( to sleep ) would it extend my withdrawl overall or would it help lower the overall negative effects of detox.

 

[Rio Fantastic]

I'm attempting to get off IV opiates and wondering if I used 1mg suboxone every night for 4 days ( to sleep ) would it extend my withdrawl overall or would it help lower the overall negative effects of detox.

It may extend your withdrawal slightly, but I'd say the benefits way outweigh that cost. Taking small amounts of subutex makes withdrawal SO much more bearable for me. You will be able to tell though as you take it - if it just takes the edge off but you're definitely still sick then you know that you're still detoxing, whereas if you take it and it resolves 90-100% of your symptoms then you know that it's just delaying the entire withdrawal process. I'd recommend it still, since heroin cold turkey is brutal and in my experience coming off subutex is a joke in comparison.

 

[ieatstamps]

It may extend your withdrawal slightly, but I'd say the benefits way outweigh that cost. Taking small amounts of subutex makes withdrawal SO much more bearable for me. You will be able to tell though as you take it - if it just takes the edge off but you're definitely still sick then you know that you're still detoxing, whereas if you take it and it resolves 90-100% of your symptoms then you know that it's just delaying the entire withdrawal process. I'd recommend it still, since heroin cold turkey is brutal and in my experience coming off subutex is a joke

It may extend your withdrawal slightly, but I'd say the benefits way outweigh that cost. Taking small amounts of subutex makes withdrawal SO much more bearable for me. You will be able to tell though as you take it - if it just takes the edge off but you're definitely still sick then you know that you're still detoxing, whereas if you take it and it resolves 90-100% of your symptoms then you know that it's just delaying the entire withdrawal process. I'd recommend it still, since heroin cold turkey is brutal and in my experience coming off subutex is a joke in comparison.

Thank you, you have given me a little more hope than I had when I woke up this morning. My main concern is just dragging this process out longer. I have a clonodine script from a year ago when I traveled down this same path, but it doesn't seem to help at all or im just to negative to realize it. I have a 8mg strip , trying to figure out the smoothest route I can take.

I made it all Friday and half of Saturday sober fighting withdrawal. Typical effects of restlessness, chills, insane sweats (mainly whenever i attempt to sleep). Got a $30 bag and did it all within 1.5 days and now I'm here. I guess question is are small breaks from the substance like that have a positive effect on your detox process? Or is it like starting completely over as if I never stopped if I slip up for a day?

Hope that makes sense...

 

[Rio Fantastic]

Thank you, you have given me a little more hope than I had when I woke up this morning. My main concern is just dragging this process out longer. I have a clonodine script from a year ago when I traveled down this same path, but it doesn't seem to help at all or im just to negative to realize it. I have a 8mg strip , trying to figure out the smoothest route I can take.

I made it all Friday and half of Saturday sober fighting withdrawal. Typical effects of restlessness, chills, insane sweats (mainly whenever i attempt to sleep). Got a $30 bag and did it all within 1.5 days and now I'm here. I guess question is are small breaks from the substance like that have a positive effect on your detox process? Or is it like starting completely over as if I never stopped if I slip up for a day?

Hope that makes sense...

I used to cave all the time on day 3 of the heroin withdrawal process, and I found that it just sent me back to day 0. It had no positive effect on the detox process, at all. Are you able to get more subutex?? If you aren't ready for withdrawal you could get on a script and keep it at a low dose? I've found that far more effective than just doing cold turkey.

 

[Hylight]

Tomorrow. I keep trying.

 

[Hylight]

Very high, where ever that thread is. However, still trying to quit. Or at least be happy about it. ♡

 

[Hylight]

The choices you make today can make a difference in your tomorrow !

 

[Hylight]

blah blah bla. i need some pain medicine. stomach is hurting. it always feels like it has been punched.
i bought myself some time with some shatter.
when i do quit fa real, maybe i will drink through it. yes. that bad. i really hate alcohol.
but today im stayed busy and did allot of things. ☆

oh yeah. and at least i gave up those fucking xanies.

 

[somnilicious]

Hello sober living.. I've been cruising along since I got on methadone. I've been clean other than my maintenance meds and a few days in the hospital, where I was pumped full of stuff and put under surgery, for an infection that developed in a cut I got on my arm the day before Thanksgiving. I've actually found it extremely easy since finally deciding to go the maintenance route. I hope everyone is doing well. Wishing everyone the best.

 

[somnilicious]

blah blah bla. i need some pain medicine. stomach is hurting. it always feels like it has been punched.
i bought myself some time with some shatter.
when i do quit fa real, maybe i will drink through it. yes. that bad. i really hate alcohol.
but today im stayed busy and did allot of things. ☆

oh yeah. and at least i gave up those fucking xanies.

I hope you feel better Hylight. Good on you for giving up the xanies. I've found no other drug exacerbates depression in me more than benzos. Take it easy on yourself sweetheart. You're doing a good job.

 

[Hylight]

Slept well. So that's a good thing. I want to start spring cleaning again. Hopefully be alright by summer.

 

[Jabberwocky]

@somnilicious so glad things are going well now you're back on maintenence! i really wish you all the best and know you've had difficulties with your home situation so hope now you've stabilised you can make improvements there.

i am still drinking way too much, but i'm going back to my parents for christmas where it won't be possible to binge in the way i am now. i'm going to make the most of this opportunity to get used to being sober most of the time. am still undecided about whether, when i come home in the new year, i'll be going back to complete abstinence, or allowing myself to drink once a week. i know the former is the best for me, i liked my life so much better when i wasn't using anything, and don't know if letting myself drink once a week will just make me slip back into the situation i'm in now.

 

[Hylight]

Oh help me God. I need norco so badly and don't want to do this for three more days. Again or ever. Yeah. And amen.

 

[Rio Fantastic]

@somnilicious so glad things are going well now you're back on maintenence! i really wish you all the best and know you've had difficulties with your home situation so hope now you've stabilised you can make improvements there.

i am still drinking way too much, but i'm going back to my parents for christmas where it won't be possible to binge in the way i am now. i'm going to make the most of this opportunity to get used to being sober most of the time. am still undecided about whether, when i come home in the new year, i'll be going back to complete abstinence, or allowing myself to drink once a week. i know the former is the best for me, i liked my life so much better when i wasn't using anything, and don't know if letting myself drink once a week will just make me slip back into the situation i'm in now.

How much is too much?? And at least you aren't back on heroin! It's good that you remember a better life substance-free - hopefully that can be your motivation when you do decide to go fully abstinent again.

Oh help me God. I need norco so badly and don't want to do this for three more days. Again or ever. Yeah. And amen.

Do you see a pain management specialist, Hylight? It seems like if you were pain-free a lot of your other addiction issues would be gone too, or at least way less prevalent.

5 days clean today. I actually love this period of sobriety, since now I know for a couple days I will be improving every day, after the first 2-3 days of feeling fucking awful and not having the energy to get up off the sofa or the vision to imagine a better future without drugs. Starting to feel the benefits again now as my brain resets - just gotta not fuck it all up again by using!!

 

[Hylight]

Starting to feel the benefits again now as my brain resets - just gotta not fuck it all up again by using!!

It's okay. You CAN do this.
You can stop using. Also, if you have to just keep doing less and less it will get so much better and even more.
When you try and make such an effort you can make this next step.
If you want to be healthy you will benefit so much. You will feel good. And it does happen. ♡ Stay in there. Yes. Stay with us.

 

[Hylight]

Okay so i didnt use YET today. But had to have help from a dab.

It's the only way i can tolerate food most of the time. Depression is horrible too.

I am losing weight but have a gut. Too weak to work out or anything. I just keep walking the dogs.

Maybe diabetes from too much sugar.

Hopefully blackouts are gone from xanax.
They could help if i had to sleep off a weekend maybe. If i didnt get the cluster headache. Someday the risk will outweigh the benifits.
I don't remember posts. It's terrible but have long term but struggle with the present.

I still have to work. And go to a job.

Now I have to find good food because i got an appetite from high potency thc. Right.

 

[somnilicious]

@chinup Thank you so much. My life quality has improved so dramatically. I feel like I'm finally living again. I truly was suffering before. I tried my best to grin and bear it and put on a brave face but the truth is that I was miserable. I really feel like as if I'm finally awakening after a long, twisted nightmare. I just never felt right opiod free. im almost afraid that those 20+ years of hardcore addiction to multiple drugs may have done some irreparable damage and I don't look forward to having to ever stop methadone but at this point in time Im trying to not look too far down the road....one foot in front of the other.

I really know how you feel with the drinking. It's always been so difficult for me to live a completely sober life but occasional use always opens the door and before long I'm using more than I'd like and it starts to become a problem. Iv also always been stuck in a damned if I do, damned if I don't conundrum with substances. I'm never happy either way. Life is difficult and those evening breaks are so nice to look forward to but the substance always starts to take over and become a destructive force. When I'm using I always think that if I stop and get sober my life will straighten out and then I'll be happy but then when I'm on the sober wagon I'm always left feeling incomplete and unhappy as well. The truth is that I'm never completely happy or satisfied. I've wrestled with it my whole life.

I think being at home and unable to drink as often or as much will be a positive in your life, while giving you time to assess your situation. I hope everything works out for you.

@Hylight You're in my thoughts.... Sending you

 

[Hylight]

Pop the sobriety barrier. Break on through. Don't look back. Pray for the strength that you will have. It's a very amazing kingdom. Strong and busy.