Valium Oxycodone Carisoprodol - TRINITY

[silver_lining]

Got Scripts of Valium 10mg, Oxycodone 5mg, Carisoprodol 350mg pills.

I am looking for that perfect ratio when combined for a good time.

Low to zero tolerance.

 

[placebonaut]

holy trinity of a script

problem of recommending ratios is YMMV, better to post what you actually take of each, are you already experienced in combo taking?

you should also gradually introduce dual combos 1st if you're not experience with them, have you done that with all 3 already?

I don't know if/how this transposes over to opioids but start slow go slow rule applies, safest route is to tirate duos and get confidence 1st, then I gradually titrate in a 3rd while reducing the duo for safety - and no weed or any other drugs, especially no alcohol

it's slow but safer, redosing makes it faster but increases risk, you could start at a low % of your normal dose, higher % = more risk but faster....

Also imho the ratio depends on you, what element do you enjoy and what to bring out more....that's why I like combos, you can make the perfect cocktail your way

 

[Ozymandeus]

This is also called the trifecta of depressant overdose. This type of combo is difficult to treat medically in cases of overdose and is often fatal.

I know you're responsible but just keep that in mind.

With zero tolerance to all 3, you won't need much.

 

[placebonaut]

This is also called the trifecta of depressant overdose. This type of combo is difficult to treat medically in cases of overdose and is often fatal.

I know you're responsible but just keep that in mind.

With zero tolerance to all 3, you won't need much.

yes, not to be fucked around with, know your shit...

 

[silver_lining]

holy trinity of a script

problem of recommending ratios is YMMV, better to post what you actually take of each, are you already experienced in combo taking?

you should also gradually introduce dual combos 1st if you're not experience with them, have you done that with all 3 already?

I don't know if/how this transposes over to opioids but start slow go slow rule applies, safest route is to tirate duos and get confidence 1st, then I gradually titrate in a 3rd while reducing the duo for safety - and no weed or any other drugs, especially no alcohol

it's slow but safer, redosing makes it faster but increases risk, you could start at a low % of your normal dose, higher % = more risk but faster....

Also imho the ratio depends on you, what element do you enjoy and what to bring out more....that's why I like combos, you can make the perfect cocktail your way

ya i am experienced with all 3, usually double but trying to figure out the best ratio for all 3. I prefer the Soma the best with either alone, although lately val and oxy is my go to dual. i'll just start with a stupid small amount of soma, Alone i usally take 2 grams, but i'll take like 100mg with my 5mg oxy 5mg val ?

 

[placebonaut]

I'm not really comfy suggesting anything for opioids because I have ZERO experience with them.

for valium, if your usual dose is 10mg, then at 5mg, you'll not even notice the 100mg of soma I suspect, so certainly a safe place to start.

I always like to go slow like this, I look at it as a 1 time investment in staying alive, there's no rush, just slow build up session by session even if it takes you weeks to figure out the right amounts, better slow and safe than dead. Then once you've figured out the right amounts you don't really have to repeat doing it ever again (just start lower again if you ever have a tolerance break, but your experience will help you understand things much faster).

I'd also suggest taking notes, doses, times, effects, duration - very very useful to have a log to refer back to.

Have a think about onset times and duration of each as well, and you also need to think about metabolite conversion and duration times too, especially for soma, I would then layer things on diazepam given it has the longest duration, build on that as your base. You can also derisk things a little by considering the overlap in effects i.e. introduce soma towards the end of diazepam so they overlap but full effects of both are only for a short duration, so you're not popping everything at the same time.

to labor the point, you're playing with fire here, major CNS risk....double rubber, have your mum on speed dial, trip sitter, arm floats, and your favorite plushie close by, be safe

 

[silver_lining]

I'm not really comfy suggesting anything for opioids because I have ZERO experience with them.

for valium, if your usual dose is 10mg, then at 5mg, you'll not even notice the 100mg of soma I suspect, so certainly a safe place to start.

I always like to go slow like this, I look at it as a 1 time investment in staying alive, there's no rush, just slow build up session by session even if it takes you weeks to figure out the right amounts, better slow and safe than dead. Then once you've figured out the right amounts you don't really have to repeat doing it ever again (just start lower again if you ever have a tolerance break, but your experience will help you understand things much faster).

I'd also suggest taking notes, doses, times, effects, duration - very very useful to have a log to refer back to.

Have a think about onset times and duration of each as well, and you also need to think about metabolite conversion and duration times too, especially for soma, I would then layer things on diazepam given it has the longest duration, build on that as your base. You can also derisk things a little by considering the overlap in effects i.e. introduce soma towards the end of diazepam so they overlap but full effects of both are only for a short duration, so you're not popping everything at the same time.

to labor the point, you're playing with fire here, major CNS risk....double rubber, have your mum on speed dial, trip sitter, arm floats, and your favorite plushie close by, be safe

thanks for the reply. Mum is always on redial lol.

Opioids are my least favorite. I was taking it alone for a few weeks after surgery and just hated it. Very sensitive to it, even 2mg oxycodone would make me sweat, shiver, puke and have massive panic. Then i finally took just 2mg valium with it and it completely leveled out the oxy and the things i hate about it, instantly becoming a favorite. So i've been pretty good about it, mostly 5mg oxy, 5mg diazepam total in a day, usually split up 3 or 4 times. So no major "high" or "rush", just mellow mind and much less pain.

So now that the pain is leveling off, i'm not gonna lie... I like this combo and so it seems natural to include my favorite... Soma.

Famous last words?

 

[placebonaut]

thanks for the reply. Mum is always on redial lol.

Opioids are my least favorite. I was taking it alone for a few weeks after surgery and just hated it. Very sensitive to it, even 2mg oxycodone would make me sweat, shiver, puke and have massive panic.

dunno about opioids as I said, is this normal? sure it's not an allergy? symptoms also sound like opiate withdrawal....though if diazepam sorts it out I doubt it's either tbh

Then i finally took just 2mg valium with it and it completely leveled out the oxy and the things i hate about it, instantly becoming a favorite. So i've been pretty good about it, mostly 5mg oxy, 5mg diazepam total in a day, usually split up 3 or 4 times. So no major "high" or "rush", just mellow mind and much less pain.

not sure how long you've been doing this for, but even though 5mg of diazepam is low, doing it daily will build tolerance given long half life, and if you already have a soma habit you're hitting the same receptors again

So now that the pain is leveling off, i'm not gonna lie... I like this combo and so it seems natural to include my favorite... Soma.

take care with cold turkey, i've just gone through Soma withdrawal and it was more painful than I expected

Famous last words?

“I’m going to the bathroom to read.” - Elvis Presley

 

[Xyborg]

Do you have a tolerance to benzos? I know you mentioned low tolerance for opioids.

As others have said, this is an extremely dangerous combination. If you mess up the dosing even just a little bit you could end up waking up in an ambulance (have done that before 0/10 would not recommend) or worse and have your body found by someone who cares about you.

So for the sake of harm reduction I do not recommend mixing these substances until you have a tolerance to them all. However, if you're anything like me you will try it anyway.

So, for the love of all that is holy start very small with your doses. Cut each one in half at the minimum if not even use only 1/3 of your normal dose. Do not redose if you don't get your desired results the first time. just ride it out. The next time, increase your dose by a small amount. Rinse and repeat this process till you get your desired effects.

All three of these drugs not only synergize the effects of one another; they also have an additive affect of the respiratory depression that all three drugs cause.

 

[Just a little pinprick]

Got Scripts of Valium 10mg, Oxycodone 5mg, Carisoprodol 350mg pills.

I am looking for that perfect ratio when combined for a good time.

Low to zero tolerance.

I’ll be honest ,there is no perfect combination,the best thing you have is the oxy,you didnt say what kind,IR the tiny ones,or the garbage with Tylenol in them( Im a shooter)if you have no tolerance I’d take two,,,Valium I’d take two,and the Soma I’d take one,,I would have no plans to drive a car or even I bicycle…If you did all three and feel that you’re still OK you can add a drink too it ( singular) a drink…

And i guarantee the next day you’ll think you did something wrong because there’s nothing special about doing the three of them together..And if you have no experience with these drugs individually I think that would be a better starting point

 

[silver_lining]

they tiny white IR pills, 5mg oxycodone. I just swallow them. Never snorted, not sure i can with these? They are legit from Walgreens lol

 

[agoraphobe]

do i have to be terminally ill to get such a script?

 

[Ozymandeus]

do i have to be terminally ill to get such a script?

In the US? Yeah, basically. They only give out the good Pharmaceuticals for people who got run over by trains or fell from a plane or are in hospice with terminal cancer.

 

[silver_lining]

USA all day! I get the valium from my PCP for anxiety, the oxy from 2 surgeries and I requested as many refills as I could until they said no more lol. And the soma... well, love me my red dots.

 

[Keif' Richards]

Carisoprodol (Soma) is inherently unpredictable relative to other common depressants. They call it the "Holy Trinity" but if you ask me, that's typically the 10-15 minute window prior to having their face in the soup at dinner, then waking up to their girlfriend screaming at them several hours later. This is not the type of combination that you take before a night out on the town with your friends. It's a combination you take when you have grown tired of feeling anything.

Carisoprodol even on its own caused problems for me. One time it was potent, the next I couldn't feel it so I'd take more, than that would put me over the edge and have me unconscious. It led to a lot of dysfunction and disorder in my life when Carisoprodl was involved. Even as someone who loved getting anesthetized however I could, I had to admit that this drug was just too unpredictable to ever actually be enjoyable. Call me crazy, but when I started doing drugs, I always had the idea that these drugs would enhance the things that I already loved to do, not replace them.

When people talk about the "Holy Trinity", I laugh. This is because even an Opioid with a Benzodiazepine we all know to be almost completely unpredictable. It makes little sense that adding a third, disparate depressant into the mix wouldn't immediately lead to blacking out. Again, a great combination if what you want is to black out. I consider the whole "holy Trinity" thing to be pretty overrated. Like I said, people don't typically remain conscious when they combine these three things. After having done Heroin, knowing what it feels like to experience euphoria from a drug, I can only label this combination as knockout fuel. I understand everyone is different.

So unfortunately, I can't give any real advice on dosage other than to keep everything as low as one can. Even with great care, you're likely to end up incapacitated if you combine these things.

 

[placebonaut]

Do you have a tolerance to benzos? I know you mentioned low tolerance for opioids.

He has some diazaeam tolerance so that will create cross tolerance

if you have no tolerance I’d take two,,,Valium I’d take two,and the Soma I’d take one

no real need to push the diazepam that high, he's on 5mg a day, 20mg is a big jump. 5mg is fine with 1 soma.

Carisoprodol even on its own caused problems for me. One time it was potent, the next I couldn't feel it so I'd take more

had similar issues and had a problem with Soma over a couple of years.

I think partly this is not eating on a truly empty stomach, and I think the consistency of dosage per pill of the indian generics is piss poor.

Also Carisoprodol is metabolised by the CYP2C19 enzyme, CYP2C19 levels can be effected by quite a wide range of things meaning a person might just not metabolise as fast on different days - not looked into this in detail to understand how big an effect this has, but combining the 3 things could explain the inconsistency.

I always find the best results by dissolving in warm water and swallowing on an empty stomach (pre-breakfast is best) - fastest most consistent on set that way for me

It makes little sense that adding a third, disparate depressant into the mix wouldn't immediately lead to blacking out

not condoning it, but 1 of the reasons is that Meprobamate is meant to potentiate the opioid (though I thought it was more additive than potentiating the opioid directly).

agree on the black out

 

[Just a little pinprick]

He has some diazaeam tolerance so that will create cross tolerance

no real need to push the diazepam that high, he's on 5mg a day, 20mg is a big jump. 5mg is fine with 1 soma.

had similar issues and had a problem with Soma over a couple of years.

I think partly this is not eating on a truly empty stomach, and I think the consistency of dosage per pill of the indian generics is piss poor.

Also Carisoprodol is metabolised by the CYP2C19 enzyme, CYP2C19

He has some diazaeam tolerance so that will create cross tolerance

no real need to push the diazepam that high, he's on 5mg a day, 20mg is a big jump. 5mg is fine with 1 soma.

had similar issues and had a problem with Soma over a couple of years.

I think partly this is not eating on a truly empty stomach, and I think the consistency of dosage per pill of the indian generics is piss poor.

Also Carisoprodol is metabolised by the CYP2C19 enzyme, CYP2C19 levels can be effected by quite a wide range of things meaning a person might just not metabolise as fast on different days - not looked into this in detail to understand how big an effect this has, but combining the 3 things could explain the inconsistency.

I always find the best results by dissolving in warm water and swallowing on an empty stomach (pre-breakfast is best) - fastest most consistent on set that way for me


not condoning it, but 1 of the reasons is that Meprobamate is meant to potentiate the opioid (though I thought it was more additive than potentiating the opioid directly).

agree on the black out

levels can be effected by quite a wide range of things meaning a person might just not metabolise as fast on different days - not looked into this in detail to understand how big an effect this has, but combining the 3 things could explain the inconsistency.

I always find the best results by dissolving in warm water and swallowing on an empty stomach (pre-breakfast is best) - fastest most consistent on set that way for me


not condoning it, but 1 of the reasons is that Meprobamate is meant to potentiate the opioid (though I thought it was more additive than potentiating the opioid directly).

agree on the black out

My bad,when I replied I was thinking they were 5 mg Valium,20 mg is a lot for someone without a tolerance

 

[Just a little pinprick]

Carisoprodol (Soma) is inherently unpredictable relative to other common depressants. They call it the "Holy Trinity" but if you ask me, that's typically the 10-15 minute window prior to having their face in the soup at dinner, then waking up to their girlfriend screaming at them several hours later. This is not the type of combination that you take before a night out on the town with your friends. It's a combination you take when you have grown tired of feeling anything.

Carisoprodol even on its own caused problems for me. One time it was potent, the next I couldn't feel it so I'd take more, than that would put me over the edge and have me unconscious. It led to a lot of dysfunction and disorder in my life when Carisoprodl was involved. Even as someone who loved getting anesthetized however I could, I had to admit that this drug was just too unpredictable to ever actually be enjoyable. Call me crazy, but when I started doing drugs, I always had the idea that these drugs would enhance the things that I already loved to do, not replace them.

When people talk about the "Holy Trinity", I laugh. This is because even an Opioid with a Benzodiazepine we all know to be almost completely unpredictable. It makes little sense that adding a third, disparate depressant into the mix wouldn't immediately lead to blacking out. Again, a great combination if what you want is to black out. I consider the whole "holy Trinity" thing to be pretty overrated. Like I said, people don't typically remain conscious when they combine these three things. After having done Heroin, knowing what it feels like to experience euphoria from a drug, I can only label this combination as knockout fuel. I understand everyone is different.

So unfortunately, I can't give any real advice on dosage other than to keep everything as low as one can. Even with great care, you're likely to end up incapacitated if you combine these things.

The first time I ever heard of the holy trinity was when I was on the DPR forum (Digital Photography Review) for Nikon Full frame cameras,which is the 2.8 lens in 14-24,,24-70,,70-200,focal length then I seen in mentioned here regarding drugs,then a Google search has it involving religion as it’s original origin,,you know I could understand if it was meant for coke,heroin,and ketamine being done in a shot,that’s something I can see being similar to a religious experience but for this label to be used for Oxy,Valium,and Soma I just feel like it’s very underserving,& misleading,, On what you get when you try this combo in any way you wish ,you’ll be thinking you did something wrong because,”This Sucked”

 

[silver_lining]

I got some of the soma-dol 350's, just had 3 of em. No oxy or val since yesterday, curious how this lands. It's been a 3 month break from soma.

 

[placebonaut]

I got some of the soma-dol 350's, just had 3 of em. No oxy or val since yesterday, curious how this lands. It's been a 3 month break from soma.

just be aware after 3 months you would have been back to baseline but since you're taking benzos these might not hit as hard as you were expecting, be careful with redosing....especially with diazepam in your system if you're taking it daily