Opioids Hydromorphone (Dilaudid)

[db7132]

Hi all,

I just got a hold of 20 2mg dilaudid pills and a 30ml bottle of 20mg/ml morphine liquid. I also have some Oxy 10s and 30s (real IR pills, not fake).

How would you recommend dosing? I usually just use the oxys to maintain a slight buzz and my pain as well during day at 25-30mg per dose once every 6 hours and also take 1mg alprazolam once every 12 hours.

I have only had IV dilaudid in the hospital and it was the best feeling ever. I haven’t had morphine since i was a kid and i have 1ml and 5ml oral syringes for the morphine liquid. Still trying to figure out if I should bum the hydromorphone or snort it with some oxy, since I heard the oral bioavailability of hydromorph is terrible.

Will snorting work better than oral Hydromorph? If so, how should i dose it out and what would it be equal to if I have had 1mg and 2mg IV hydromorph in hospital and the 2mg got me pretty high.

Looking to have a good time on the weekends, not do this every day. Would appreciate any insight on the dosing of all 3 and the best combination. I have almost zero experience with morphine as well. How does it compare to oxy oral IR tablets for the high and the dosing equivalence?

Also i have never put anything up my bum and dont know if i should even go that route, im worried i’d just shit out the liquid immediately and waste it, so knowing how to do it and how long i have to lay down on my stomach and hold it in would be very helpful info!

Thanks in advance!

 

[paranoid android]

Snorting wont give you that rush that IV in the hospital does. However it will last longer. Do not start IVing dilly though i went to opiate purgatory cause of that shit. How i wish 2mg's of IV hydromorpone would do anything for me . Real tears lol. I was once injecting 3 18mg hydromorph contins at once multiple times a day. So ya dont start iving that shit lol

But intranasal bioavilability is about 50% maybe abit lower imo. Boofing it may be higher but i only do that with suppositories made to do that like morphine suppositories

 

[db7132]

Snorting wont give you that rush that IV in the hospital does. However it will last longer. Do not start IVing dilly though i went to opiate purgatory cause of that shit. How i wish 2mg's of IV hydromorpone would do anything for me . Real tears lol. I was once injecting 3 18mg hydromorph contins at once multiple times a day. So ya dont start iving that shit lol

But intranasal bioavilability is about 50% maybe abit lower imo. Boofing it may be higher but i only do that with suppositories made to do that like morphine suppositories

oh i definitely would never IV any pills. i only do IV when administered in hospital lol i dont think i’d ever come back from that if i started doing IV myself.

What about the liquid morphine? Is that better than pills or is it the same? Says i can use it sublingually or just orally. Also, is intranasal bioavailability of hydromorph the same as oral or is it better or worse? I dont necessarily need the rush that i got IV in hospital, but i would like to get high from it at least. I had a buddy recommend snorting 2mg hydromorph with 15-20mg oxy together. He said that did a pretty good job.

Also, I have no experience boofing so I have no idea how to do it or if it’s safe or not. I heard the bioavailability of boofing it is 80% or so, so definitely the best option, but i’d rather not mess my health up if it’s unsafe.

 

[not2quick]

Boofing the liquid morphine is the way to go IMO. Id experiment doing the same with the dilly's. Take it slow and spread them out.

 

[db7132]

Boofing the liquid morphine is the way to go IMO. Id experiment doing the same with the dilly's. Take it slow and spread them out.

Why is boofing preffered? Does it provide a rush of some sort? Oral morphine isnt insanely effective but i heard if you take a lot it is, as is any drug.

Do you have instructions on how to do this? I feel so odd asking this but i want to be as safe as possible and also not waste the drug by potentially sh*tting out the liquid morph before it hits my system.

I heard with the dillys, you just put em in warm water and let em dissolve and then you use an oral syringe to do the same thing id be doing when boofing the liquid morph, i just dont know the correct procedure for boofing lol. Not sure if this is the right place to ask, so please direct me to a sub with instructions if possible, but if you could answer here too, that would be greatly appreciated!

 

[not2quick]

Why is boofing preffered? Does it provide a rush of some sort? Oral morphine isnt insanely effective but i heard if you take a lot it is, as is any drug.

Do you have instructions on how to do this? I feel so odd asking this but i want to be as safe as possible and also not waste the drug by potentially sh*tting out the liquid morph before it hits my system.

I heard with the dillys, you just put em in warm water and let em dissolve and then you use an oral syringe to do the same thing id be doing when boofing the liquid morph, i just dont know the correct procedure for boofing lol. Not sure if this is the right place to ask, so please direct me to a sub with instructions if possible, but if you could answer here too, that would be greatly appreciated!

The bioavailability is like 50% rectal for morphine compared to like 20-30% oral. If you have an oral syringe, just squirt a 20-30mg shot into your ass. It sounds like you regularly consume opiates, so 20-30mg should be good. Don't have to get technical. It'll kick in in about 15min.

 

[db7132]

The bioavailability is like 50% rectal for morphine compared to like 20-30% oral. If you have an oral syringe, just squirt a 20-30mg shot into your ass. It sounds like you regularly consume opiates, so 20-30mg should be good. Don't have to get technical. It'll kick in in about 15min.

Sounds good, I will keep you updated on how this goes! Honestly sounds so odd that this works better than oral route cuz i am so used to taking my oxy (prescribed) orally and its bioavailability is so high that it hits harder than the other route i have tried (intranasal). Would you recommend taking 10-20mg oxy orally and then using the morphine rectally to boost the feeling? I feel like the euphoria from oxy is so much better than morphine, but maybe i’m just biased. Hydromorph IV is unbeatable, but I will never do that myself, only in the hospital when administered.

 

[PtahTek]

1mg and 2mg IV hydromorphone

yeah d is one of my faves for dome reason but not sustainable as indicated above.
4k used to be my choice but wasnt there an 8k...? seems i had some at some time.

not recommended. unless ya just have em to recreate ya could prolly save the oxy. just my experience.

be safe
peace

dmn gotta reboot scroll not workin on laptop
wait lemme see if i can do some magic like i usta could....

 

[db7132]

yeah d is one of my faves for dome reason but not sustainable as indicated above.
4k used to be my choice but wasnt there an 8k...? seems i had some at some time.

not recommended. unless ya just have em to recreate ya could prolly save the oxy. just my experience.

be safe
peace

dmn gotta reboot scroll not workin on laptop
wait lemme see if i can do some magic like i usta could....

im sorry i think i am misunderstanding what youre saying. are you saying do the dillys alone and that it would be a waste to mix with oxy? i wanna remind you that i am definitely not going to IV these, but may boof em or snort em or even just pop them orally, who knows. trying to figure out the best way

 

[RUC4]

Sounds good, I will keep you updated on how this goes! Honestly sounds so odd that this works better than oral route cuz i am so used to taking my oxy (prescribed) orally and its bioavailability is so high that it hits harder than the other route i have tried (intranasal). Would you recommend taking 10-20mg oxy orally and then using the morphine rectally to boost the feeling? I feel like the euphoria from oxy is so much better than morphine, but maybe i’m just biased. Hydromorph IV is unbeatable, but I will never do that myself, only in the hospital when administered.

i wanna remind everyone of BLUA and posting rules:

“We are not here to help you get as high as possible.”

“We will not allow posts or threads promoting or glorifying dangerous drug use practices.”

hi @not2quick, your reply recommending a specific rectal morphine dose and saying it “should be good” conflicts with BDD's harm reduction guidelines. we aren't here to help people get as high as possible or promote dangerous drug use.

the OP also reported taking alprazolam, so giving that dosing reassurance without addressing the combination's risks is particularly concerning. please keep replies focused on reducing harm rather than recommending recreational doses or stronger effects.

 

[Psychonauticunt]

Use your oxy tolerance to gauge your dosage of hydromorphone and morphine.

Bioavailability is still pretty variable, so your mileage may vary, but rectally administered morphine is roughly equipotent to oral oxycodone, maybe a little stronger. Morphine is more sedating and has a longer duration by an hour or two.

Hydromorphone, like morphine, has pretty poor oral BA but intranasally it should be about 50%. In that case, 2-3mg should be in the ballpark of what 25-30mg of oxycodone is equivalent to. Or 2-4mg intranasally is roughly 1-2mg IV if you wanna compare it with what you had in the hospital. (although IV is obviously subjectively more intense). Err on the side of caution if you are taking drugs you're not familiar with.
Oh and unlike the morphine, this one you don't wanna be boofing. Rectal bioavailability is around the same as orally, so unless you're really into it, there's no need. Snorting it improves BA considerably.

I especially wouldn't even consider combining them, at least at this point. Why? I'd get a feeling for each drug's strength and effects in isolation first. You have plenty of each drug, no need to start combining when you have plenty for repeated uses of each.

 

[RUC4]

I especially wouldn't even consider combining them, at least at this point. Why? I'd get a feeling for each drug's strength and effects in isolation first. You have plenty of each drug, no need to start combining when you have plenty for repeated uses of each.

agreed. i've always preferred to try things by themselves first.

 

[db7132]

Use your oxy tolerance to gauge your dosage of hydromorphone and morphine.

Bioavailability is still pretty variable, so your mileage may vary, but rectally administered morphine is roughly equipotent to oral oxycodone, maybe a little stronger. Morphine is more sedating and has a longer duration by an hour or two.

Hydromorphone, like morphine, has pretty poor oral BA but intranasally it should be about 50%. In that case, 2-3mg should be in the ballpark of what 25-30mg of oxycodone is equivalent to. Or 2-4mg intranasally is roughly 1-2mg IV if you wanna compare it with what you had in the hospital. (although IV is obviously subjectively more intense). Err on the side of caution if you are taking drugs you're not familiar with.
Oh and unlike the morphine, this one you don't wanna be boofing. Rectal bioavailability is around the same as orally, so unless you're really into it, there's no need. Snorting it improves BA considerably.

I especially wouldn't even consider combining them, at least at this point. Why? I'd get a feeling for each drug's strength and effects in isolation first. You have plenty of each drug, no need to start combining when you have plenty for repeated uses of each.

understood, this has been the most helpful comment so far. thank you so much! i tried 2mg dilly dosed intranasally last night 5 hours after taking my normal dose of 25-30mg of oxycodone and i felt pretty good but i definitely couldve done double that and felt better. i just didn’t wanna risk it, im a pretty safe guy. i did notice that the ffects are very short lasting, like less than 2hours, maybe even less than 90min. i did sleep very well tho and woke up feeling good.

i am going to try to listen to what you said about not combining them, at least at the same time. you think it would be safe to top off my normal oxy dose of 25-30mg 3-4 hours later with rectal morphine? also how long once i put the morph into my rectum do i have to wait before i use the restroom? i imagine shooting liquid up there will make me want to do that and i dont want to waste it.

thanks for all the advice!

 

[db7132]

agreed. i've always preferred to try things by themselves first.

i agree actually, i was honestly just going off of what i was told by a friend, but i got a good feeling as well as good pain relief from 2mg dilly by itself. could probably have taken more but better to be safe for the first time.

sorry if i broke any of your rules about posting, i dont post super often so if i did i apologize!

 

[MedicinalUser247]

I love the 4mg pills. The euphoria is great.

 

[db7132]

I love the 4mg pills. The euphoria is great.

how do you typically take them? i have the 2mg pills and have only tried intranasal, not oral nor rectal but id rather avoid rectal if possible

 

[MedicinalUser247]

4mg Oral.

 

[WellTram]

I had access to 97% pure hydromorphone smokable and snortabke powder, just like to morphine and oxy powder of the same quality.

Hydromorphone worked when snorted, probably more than when I took it oraly but the rush after smoking it was godlike.

Morphine was not working when insufflated, when smoked it was...u know, nice but it made me too sedated i even fell asleep on the floor while hydromorphone gave me energetic high.

Oxycodone was the most dissapointing for me. I dont know why but even now, casual oxy pill ( legit ) are weak for me. Just like casual IR morphine pills.
Dihydrocodeine makes me more high ( but i am sure hydromorphone would be better ) and tramadol 100mg helps with my pain and mood much better than 10mg morphine and it also lasts 3 times as long.
300mg of tram would provide me with 20mg oxy-like high but again, 3 times longer and more peppy.