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Oops. I have a rule about never rushing the process of weighing. My scale is cheap, and that means I have to use techniques that are very time consuming to get results I trust. Liquid measurement is definitely more convenient but comes with its own caveats.
Yeah I think ever since that night, I've been much more careful as far as not rushing though there's still been times I've weighed something and thought "close enough". I actually came back and played around with that exact scale later (my friends). I pretty sure I weighed out what said 25mg. Turned the scale off and poured that same 25mg on and it said something like 32mg. It was not a trustworthy scale. Not something I'd weight 2C-P on that's for sure.
 
My scale reads to 0.001g, and for measuring individual doses of anything stronger than 2C-E I use liquid.

Trustworthy weighing depends on a combination of equipment and technique. Scales have quirks. Cheap scales use dirty tricks to improve usable precision, making them more difficult to use reliably, but even expensive scales are sensitive to technique (and to damage if mishandled). For example every good balance I've seen in an actual lab is left powered on at all times.
 
For example every good balance I've seen in an actual lab is left powered on at all times.
For real, it seems like only 1 in 10 people can leave a scale behind without making a mess, but that 1 person may switch depending on moon phase and what-not. ;)
 
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The fact fact that it took him 1.5 hrs to feel anything and that he had pellets (microdots)... who else thinks Hunter actually had Owlsley or Nick Sand's DOM??? To me, it definitely sounds more like DOM.

Ive literally forgotten I'd taken DOM once as the come up is so long. and a few hrs later i was like "why am i tripping?? Oh yeah i totally took DOM a few hrs ago.."
Those around me including myself have all forgotten we took DOM before, whereas mescaline is noticeable much sooner. I always suspected that the "pellets" of mescaline were a crude extract that had been turned into one of those paste pellets similar to pastille tablets in Europe during the 1800s, but it very well could've been DOM given the time period, I'm not sure. I mean, the late 70s had a DOC bust in Canada so the glory of the psychedelic amphetamine seems to have many roots. My obsession with psychedelic amphetamines is truly greater than any other class of drug I think, I'm putting off trying the TMA-2 I was gifted a couple doses of until 11/26 to celebrate Shulgin's subjective variant of bicycle day, 11/26/1962.

To this day I'm not really sure of my dose but based on effect and size of pile of powder I'd estimate it was 40-50mg which to some isn't a massive dose. However for me I have learned anything over 28mg is too much. I've only intentionally take it higher than 28mg before this or since, but even that time I was having trouble articulating myself. IME as I push the dose past what I consider ideal, the intensity increases while any therapeutic benefit seems to go down. I might take a large dose again, but if I do I think I'd prefer to do it all alone. Not being able to articulate myself seems to cause me a good deal of anxiety/embarrassment.

I did once take 35mg but it was spread out over 4 hours and was totally manageable.
2C-B, like many phenethylamines responds well to being taken in split dosing, 35mg over 4 hours is pretty merciful compared to 28mg all at once imo. My fiance is ~150lbs and did a keybump that was more of a uh, a "keyline" I'll say. I'm talking the length of the key, eyeballed from a baggie of 2C-B I had sleight-of-hand placed in his pocket at a barcade. I did a normal keybump, came out, the bag ended up in his pocket, I let him know and he went and did his "keyline", walked out of the bathroom shaking and hit me with some "we need to Uber home now" type shit. It was hilarious in retrospect, the Uber driver was an older man who could tell we were geeked up, we went home and rode that trip out comfortably haha. I consider social doses of 2C-B to end around 18-20mg, but if you're just spamming 10mg doses every 60-90 minutes it remains sociable and pleasant for quite a long time, even longer with ketamine in the mix as ket seems to "round out" 2C-B where it adds a "sharper" feeling edge to other psychedelics for me.

I'm currently waiting for my tolerance to reset (2 more days), but I've been getting to know mescaline in its pure form and it's been quite enlightening. A large dose (525mg) was life-altering at a fundamental level, I've used mescaline a total of 8 times so far which pales in comparison to hundreds of LSD, 2C-B, psilocybin, DMT, DOM, DOB, etc. experiences, but it's also motivated me to grow and extract more of it as I'm fascinated by how synthetically pure mescaline relates to the extracted stuff. There is definitely a difference, and there appears to be little interest in feeling out the differences here with any degree of scientific rigor. I can dab Apple kush and be well aware that the apple-ish taste is the result of terpinolene, cool. Why do bridgesii samples have such tunnel-oriented visuals and thoughts pertaining to time that are akin to some sort of "vision quest" ordeal? I suspect I may have to be one of the earlier folks to take a swing at figuring this out.

Life has been generally slow and sluggish recently, I can't wait to get back to work soon enough.

Unrelated, but has anybody here developed a shorthand for notation while tripping? I've been working on the concept recently.
 
I've used mescaline a total of 8 times so far which pales in comparison to hundreds of LSD, 2C-B, psilocybin, DMT, DOM, DOB, etc. experiences, but it's also motivated me to grow and extract more of it as I'm fascinated by how synthetically pure mescaline relates to the extracted stuff. There is definitely a difference, and there appears to be little interest in feeling out the differences here with any degree of scientific rigor.
What do you mean by "there appears to be little interest in feeling out the differences here with any degree of scientific rigor". There's little interest by whom? I think at least a few of us here on Bluelight including myself are fascinated by this subject.

At the same time, this seems like a very challenging project. I guess it depends on how much rigor you want. Like, can we simply rely on a pool of experienced volunteer bioassayers (such as ourselves)? Or do we worry about placebo/nocebo effects and try to assess responses in a sample more representative of the general population?
 
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