Phenmetrazine...?

[Renz Envy]

Anyone heard of this stimulant before? Supposedly an appetite suppressant. Read somewhere that it's one of the most highly desired stimulants out there next to m-amp, ice and cocaine.

Anyone have any experience with it?

 

[jbm242]

Phenmetrazine is the chemical name for Preludin.

Preludin is now virtually impossible to get because of its high potential for abuse and the doctors were pressured to stop prescribing (maybe some clandestine lab could make it). Those that have IV'd 'em (lucky bastards!) will tell you that it is one of the best rushes and euphoria of any stimulant out there. Around Washington, DC is was very popular during the 70s and was called "Bam", for obvious reasons!

Years later a new analogue of Preludin came out called Prelu-2 which is Phendimetrazine. It essentially acts as a pro-drug, but still is rare because of it potential for misuse and diversion.

 

[Cane2theLeft]

^ excellent first post - please stick around!

Welcome to BL!

 

[Renz Envy]

Preludin is now virtually impossible to get because of its high potential for abuse and the doctors were pressured to stop prescribing (maybe some clandestine lab could make it). Those that have IV'd 'em (lucky bastards!) will tell you that it is one of the best rushes and euphoria of any stimulant out there. Around Washington, DC is was very popular during the 70s and was called "Bam", for obvious reasons!

Years later a new analogue of Preludin came out called Prelu-2 which is Phendimetrazine. It essentially acts as a pro-drug, but still is rare because of it potential for misuse and diversion.

Having done a little more reading;
I've heard the stimulant effects rival that of methylaminorex/m-amp. If this is true, then it's a shame that this jewel of medicine has gone missing!

The Beatles were reported to having used preludin excessively as a way of practicing for longer periods of time.

 

[Cane2theLeft]

Now it's apparent that likely every poster in this thread has read its Wikipedia page

 

[Renz Envy]

Now it's apparent that likely every poster in this thread has read its Wikipedia page

No shame in using wikipedia... Not the ONLY place I read. It's not like there's thousands of trip reports floating around about this drug.

 

[Cane2theLeft]

Sorry to momentarily derail but - from a Guardian UK article on a Nature (peer-reviewed journal) study on wikipedia's accuracy found on the 'reliability of wikipedia' wikipedia page -

In December 2005, the journal Nature conducted a single-blind study comparing the accuracy of a sample of articles from Wikipedia and Encyclopædia Britannica. The sample included 42 articles on scientific topics, including biographies of well-known scientists. The articles were compared for accuracy by academic reviewers who remained anonymous − a customary practice for journal article reviews. Based on their review, the average Wikipedia article contained 4 errors or omissions; the average Britannica article, 3. Only 4 serious errors were found in Wikipedia, and 4 in Encyclopædia Britannica. The study concluded: "Wikipedia comes close to Britannica in terms of the accuracy of its science entries",[5] although Wikipedia's articles were often "poorly structured""]In December 2005, the journal Nature conducted a single-blind study comparing the accuracy of a sample of articles from Wikipedia and Encyclopædia Britannica. The sample included 42 articles on scientific topics, including biographies of well-known scientists. The articles were compared for accuracy by academic reviewers who remained anonymous − a customary practice for journal article reviews. Based on their review, the average Wikipedia article contained 4 errors or omissions; the average Britannica article, 3. Only 4 serious errors were found in Wikipedia, and 4 in Encyclopædia Britannica. The study concluded: "Wikipedia comes close to Britannica in terms of the accuracy of its science entries",[5] although Wikipedia's articles were often "poorly structured"

It's rather apparent that in the interim since this was published originally that they've taken even further steps to ensure accuracy and reliability and in my rather unscientific assessment, I think it's largely only improved since.

One aspect that I find particularly useful for less-informed BLers is that most pharmaceuticals with any recreational use whatsoever have a section on that use on their respective wikipedia pages or it's otherwise discussed in another section.

 

[ntnt]

Phenmetrazine is the chemical name for Preludin.

Preludin is now virtually impossible to get because of its high potential for abuse and the doctors were pressured to stop prescribing (maybe some clandestine lab could make it). Those that have IV'd 'em (lucky bastards!) will tell you that it is one of the best rushes and euphoria of any stimulant out there. Around Washington, DC is was very popular during the 70s and was called "Bam", for obvious reasons!

Years later a new analogue of Preludin came out called Prelu-2 which is Phendimetrazine. It essentially acts as a pro-drug, but still is rare because of it potential for misuse and diversion.

In the early 1980s phenmetrazine pills were around Southern California. The ones I saw were round orange-colored pills -- people called them Preludes because the brand name was Preludin. I liked them better than meth, that's how good they were. I cannot find the article I read about them to link here but the article showed a chart comparing phenmetrazine (Preludin) to methamphetamine and cocaine by showing to what extent each of them increases serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine. It showed that phenmetrazine increases dopamine quite a bit more than meth or coke. Now there is a reputable rc site online and they carry 3-Fluorophenmetrazine
(3-FPM) pellets and powder and many other wonderful products -- which is a very rare phenomenon because there are more scam sites than ever now. I don't know to what extent they differ or don't differ from phenmetrazine (Preludes). I have not ordered them. I ordered something which is legal in my country. This site is so legitimate and a blessing for some people -- we cannot ever discuss prices -- but imo nobody would complain about them.