Those monkeys were too late ...and suffered a fate worse than death.
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Those monkeys were too late ...and suffered a fate worse than death.
jose ribas da silva
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Monkeys are complicated animals. I don't recommend them as pets. As I said, I killed my monkeys after they ate my weed, but even before that, as much as I enjoyed them, it was already complicated. I stick with macaws now because they're great, loyal, violent when necessary, easy to train, they don't do drugs, though they do enjoy a beer sometimes.
Did you snap their monkey necks with your bare hands?
jose ribas da silva
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Of course not, they bite quite heavily. My methods were subtle and somewhat scientific. I mixed mangoes, jackfruits, bananas, guavas, and a dose of mushrooms enough to kill an elephant, then I observed what happened. They got petrified, then I released them in an area they weren't used to, but rich in snakes, ocelots, and other monkeys... I let them go back to nature. So after the trip, if they were able to survive, which I don't know, they found themselves in a completely new place, almost like wild monkeys again. The trip was the turning point, they'll question themselves for the rest of their lives whether they lived with me one day or if it was all just part of the trip
Didgital
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Going for 45mg Mesc minidose today, 30 just wasn't enough for me.
edit* was 48 since I have to measure individual doses. This is my minidose spot. Colors are just a bit more vibrant, audio has just a touch more depth... wind feels especially sensitive on my skin. Enough to send shivers down my spine. I'm sure 45 would be good too, I can maybe drop to 40 next time to see where my personal line is.
edit* was 48 since I have to measure individual doses. This is my minidose spot. Colors are just a bit more vibrant, audio has just a touch more depth... wind feels especially sensitive on my skin. Enough to send shivers down my spine. I'm sure 45 would be good too, I can maybe drop to 40 next time to see where my personal line is.
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Didgital
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I would maybe give a monkey some 2c-b...
Very nice! I thought you tried 25 mg not 30? In any case, 33 mg would be a "1/6 dose" going by my rule of looking at the low number specified in the "dosage" range given in PHIKAL. My rule gives a ballpark for a good low-end mini dose---enough to feel pleasant effects but not enough to interfere with daily activities. IMO anything less than that is at or below threshold and is crossing into microdose territory. More than that and the experience becomes less casual, but "1/3" and "2/3" doses do have their uses.
Didgital
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pretty sure it was 30 but i dont take notes. maybe it was 25. regardless it wasn't enough. yeah i would agree that I am going for minidose. the 25/30mg was certainly microdose. Im sure it had an effect but it was completely unnoticeable. I used to be in same camp as most people when it comes to mesc low doses. It's so rare that people wouldn't want to waste it.. If I ONLY had 300mg I would probably agree.
xdrc
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By the way, this was an enjoyable great and short experience, as intended. Aside from the rejuvenation effects, I was particularly mesmerised by the very organic, intricate yet subtle visuals that the 2C-D had to offer. If it weren't for the unnatural structure I'd be convinced one could find it in nature. I am not biased against either synthetic or natural drugs, this is more or less a neutral (but subjective) observation on what it does to me and what it feels like for me.
Didgital
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Maybe irrelevant, but 2,5-dimethoxy-4-methylbenzaldehyde (precursor to 2C-D/DOM) does exist naturally found only in very specific species of lichen. It is thought to act as an antimicrobial.
Atranol (2,6-dihydroxy-4-methylbenzaldehyde), a potential precursor Ψ-2C-D/DOM is actually very prominent in the lichen world.
Why do I know this? I guess I did a lot of research on lichens back in the day. They also a great source of olivetol and olivetolic acid, precursors for THC/THCA...
Shhhh !
I use a lot of lichen in modeling and would hate to have it eliminated from non-drug legitimate purchases if it went on a schedule and / or watch list.
I get varieties of lichen in bulk and have to process, dye them and process them again with glycerine so that they remain spongy and won't break off. In the hobby they are often used as foliage for trees and bushes.
ageingpartyfiend
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the hcl?
Didgital
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I wouldn't worry. These things exist in pretty small quantities and they are far more accessible via synthesis. I was only commenting to @xdrc to let him know that these structures DO exist in nature, albeit very rarely.Shhhh !
I use a lot of lichen in modeling and would hate to have it eliminated from non-drug legitimate purchases if it went on a schedule and / or watch list.
I get varieties of lichen in bulk and have to process, dye them and process them again with glycerine so that they remain spongy and won't break off. In the hobby they are often used as foliage for trees and bushes.
Looking at atranol in particular at 2% of dry weight, plus the need to dimethylate the 2 hydroxy groups, one would need a shit ton of lichen to make a very obscure and honestly unappealing psychedelic that again, would be easier made synthetically.
Didgital
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no it was the hemisulfate which is almost but not quite as potent as HCL. For all purposes I consider it the same though.
For 100mg of the HCL one would need 100/.95 = 105mg. They close enough imo.
Yeah, I was mostly kidding...
But I do remember a time when they allowed everyone to buy and play with stuff, then deemed it unsuitable to play with...
For concrete example:
Your very own toy Atomic Laboratory
So stranger things have happened in my lifetime already
^^^ made me forget wtf i was gonna post. cool for real - looked at image for like two minutes. i got a couple erector sets i havent dug into yet. i will. gottabout 20 years left, so, yeah. no hurries on that end.
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wanna trip soon but that rick and morty shit is potent as hell.
i wanna have the strong visuals and other perceptions that i know it will bring but fuckin scared of it for some reason.
took 1/2 tab the other day and it felt like it was too much even though i had prepped by ingesting 1mg bnz. and hells yeah the bnz works. hahahaha
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wanna trip soon but that rick and morty shit is potent as hell.
i wanna have the strong visuals and other perceptions that i know it will bring but fuckin scared of it for some reason.
took 1/2 tab the other day and it felt like it was too much even though i had prepped by ingesting 1mg bnz. and hells yeah the bnz works. hahahaha
Brazil sounds like the city I went to university in hahaha, that's fucking awesome.
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Recently I was very fortunate to access some 2C-D and mescaline as the hydrochloride salts. So far, in the world of psychedelic phenethylamines, I've used DOM, DOB, DOC, 3C-P, allylescaline, full spectrum mescaline acetate, peyote (notably unique), 2C-B, 25B-NBOH, 25B-NBOMe, 25I-NBOMe, 25E-NBOH and 25C-NBOMe. I think that's the full list of them so far at least. I recently tried to do a full rundown of the list of everything I've ever tasted and the list is 174 entries long, but I am not about to sift through them all looking for phenethylamines I might've missed haha.
2C-D, expectedly, felt like 2C-DOM if that makes sense. There's a distinctly ambiguous cognitive enhancement and very noticeable somatic enhancement from DOM that I felt in 2C-D. 2C-D commanded more erotic energy than 2C-B ever has in my opinion which is extraordinarily high praise. 2C-D really bangs in combos, memantine, DPT, mitragynine, THC/HHC, a tisane of Ephedra sinica, even etizolam didn't really interfere, all of this reminds me heavily of 2C-B but 2C-D seems to be more of a team player if that makes sense.
Mescaline HCl down to 75mg was well noticeable which I did not expect, and it's fascinating how when compared to peyote or full spectrum extracts from cacti there is simultaneously some set of characteristics that become significantly enhanced, and others that aren't really noticeable. Simultaneously more than I expected in certain ways and nearly invisible in other ways.
300mg of mescaline HCl was fantastic, 75mg was useful and far more noticeable than expected, and mescaline certainly appears to produce tolerance whereas 2C-D seemed to resemble 2C-B in not forming tolerance that I could notice. For mabon I'll be trying it at 500mg, I'm quite excited. Hopefully I'll be employed soon, got through the certification processes I needed to knock out today, officially passed as of this morning.
Took 70mg of memantine and maybe my scale is off because, fuck, this really caught me off guard. I've been trying to establish an understanding of its "plateaus" akin to DXM because it does appear to exhibit that kind of dose-response curve. Feels like I ate a bunch of PCP, it's quite strange. I've got a mason jar full of the hydrochloride salt so I've been using it in compounding experiments, it mixes with mescaline, LSD and DOM quite well. Tonight's an MGM-15, mirogabalin, etizolam, THC/HHC and memantine kind of night, but the real hype is aimed at mabon mescaline.