Meth So i started doing meth again

[outr4ge89]

So i started doing meth again and its not the same as it use to be i think i got dosed with something other than meth i dont think my friend would do that but I get instant anxiety worse than ever and jaw hurts and instant dry mouth when I did it b4 it felt good now it just feels horrible I wish I could explain what im feeling better im kinda worried

 

[M!$TER-ED]

Why did you start up again?

 

[Rubb3rDucky]

Meth today isnt like meth a decade ago. Its all made in huge batches in Mexico now.

This is all speculation based on a little knowledge. But, it used to be made in smaller batches using different reactions to get the meth. I think the word is racemic. Like, today's shit is more or less racemic than it used to be. It makes it a ton more psychologically harmful. Which is why you don't feel comfortable like you used too.

I understand what you mean. I can do a whole gram in a day now. That is insane. It isnt tolerance causing it either.

Anyway, I wish I had more details to give you other than its just not the same shit anymore. But, that is really what it boils down too.

Even more reason too leave the stuff alone, my guy.

 

[outr4ge89]

It's like a buzzing in my head, get super anxious nothing feels right for awhile and start thinking shits happening that isn't like bad paranoia the buzzing aint like a good buzzing etheir

 

[ovo1024]

Meth today isnt like meth a decade ago. Its all made in huge batches in Mexico now.

This is all speculation based on a little knowledge. But, it used to be made in smaller batches using different reactions to get the meth. I think the word is racemic. Like, today's shit is more or less racemic than it used to be. It makes it a ton more psychologically harmful. Which is why you don't feel comfortable like you used too.

I understand what you mean. I can do a whole gram in a day now. That is insane. It isnt tolerance causing it either.

Anyway, I wish I had more details to give you other than its just not the same shit anymore. But, that is really what it boils down too.

Even more reason too leave the stuff alone, my guy.

Some of what you said is true and correct, but some of the stuff is incorrect. For example, I live in northwestern, Arizona and the meth around here is very good. And I'm not a teenager either. I started doing meth in 2011 so 15 years ago. So I've had the meth back then and I've had the meth now 15 years later. And if you don't have a huge tolerance, all you need is one good line or smoked a bowl to yourself. And you'll be flying high for 10 hours. I promise you

 

[Rubb3rDucky]

I guess I wasn't really taking my tolerance into consideration. When I am clean for awhile and pick up again I am never disappointed. (I am with myself. Not the drug.) But, as time goes on it has less effect.

That is tolerance, 100%

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

I understand what you mean. I can do a whole gram in a day now. That is insane. It isnt tolerance causing it either.

wow - I remember getting fully and magnificently buzzed from snorting 40mg d-meth around a decade or so ago

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

Meth today isnt like meth a decade ago. Its all made in huge batches in Mexico now.

This is all speculation based on a little knowledge. But, it used to be made in smaller batches using different reactions to get the meth. I think the word is racemic. Like, today's shit is more or less racemic than it used to be. It makes it a ton more psychologically harmful. Which is why you don't feel comfortable like you used too.

I understand what you mean. I can do a whole gram in a day now. That is insane. It isnt tolerance causing it either.

Anyway, I wish I had more details to give you other than its just not the same shit anymore. But, that is really what it boils down too.

Even more reason too leave the stuff alone, my guy.

I got into some d meth recently and it's very underwhelming for some reason. Im sure it's very close to 98 percent pure. I don't feel much from it though. The high still lasts 12 - 16 hours guaranteed though.

The mexican racemic stuff feels good but your only high for 2 hours which is weird for meth. You aren't supposed to chronically dose it but i kinda did because of how weak it was.

 

[WellTram]

Something changed. Different recipe different result i remember when tiny amount of yellow meth was euphoric. Now this beutiful shards just made me awake. And many times not for long time. But once in a while a small amount of something reminding the old meth appeared and it was exactly what it used to be 15 years ago.

But good or not, i was using less and less and now i don't use it anymore. My body always let me know it doesn't like it after the peak of high starts to wear off. In physical way. I don't have mental comedowns i now always had stomach issues, diarrhea, horrible skin reactions. I guess my body wants sobriety and mild opioid relief. Nothing more.

 

[BiSessSixx]

Some of what you said is true and correct, but some of the stuff is incorrect. For example, I live in northwestern, Arizona and the meth around here is very good. And I'm not a teenager either. I started doing meth in 2011 so 15 years ago. So I've had the meth back then and I've had the meth now 15 years later. And if you don't have a huge tolerance, all you need is one good line or smoked a bowl to yourself. And you'll be flying high for 10 hours. I promise you

I visited Arizona once and back then, I didn't do it. My friends talked me n2 smoking a lil with them and DAYUM,!! I couldn't eat for 2days. I had to shower like 15x cuz I kept sweating so badly. I was not n2 it AT ALL. Now I smoke daily and from the 1st day I started doing it 9yrs ago, I've never felt anywhere close to what I felt that day. And I started doing it after having an Adderall addiction for 10yrs prior to that. I could take 10 30mg adds and fall out while drinking a cup of coffee. So, yeah, I get that my tolerance is crazy high. However, it is the dope, too. Being in Kentucky, our door is shit compared to our west. But if the greedy fkn Mexican Cartel would make a decent product, it would be nice. They dgaf about anything or anyone but money. Anyone who can kill their own family members aren't worried about some Joe Schmo's high. They could make a fuck ton of $ AND.a superior product, but they can't get past their own greed.

Apologies: admittedly, the end was a bit exaggerated and dramatic

 

[BiSessSixx]

I got into some d meth recently and it's very underwhelming for some reason. Im sure it's very close to 98 percent pure. I don't feel much from it though. The high still lasts 12 - 16 hours guaranteed though.

The mexican racemic stuff feels good but your only high for 2 hours which is weird for meth. You aren't supposed to chronically dose it but i kinda did because of how weak it was.

I'm gonna sound really stupid, but that's ok, im used to it, lol. So, here goes.,.. d-meth,?

 

[jose ribas da silva]

Your brain of yesterday is not the same as today's brain, accumulated days take their toll.

 

[Didgital]

Your brain of yesterday is not the same as today's brain, accumulated days take their toll.

this 100%
Sadly a significant portion of the population are always going to blame some other reason than accept the simple facts that the context in which they used to take drugs has changed, they've changed emotionally, and of course their physical brain chemistry has changed. It HAS to be the meth or the MDMA or the LSD or even the cough syrup that's changed.

To me it says a lot about a person.

 

[BiSessSixx]

this 100%
Sadly a significant portion of the population are always going to blame some other reason than accept the simple facts that the context in which they used to take drugs has changed, they've changed emotionally, and of course their physical brain chemistry has changed. It HAS to be the meth or the MDMA or the LSD or even the cough syrup that's changed.

To me it says a lot about a person

Damn, dude, idk that that's something to be sad about, lol. Idk how old you are or how much you've traveled, but I promise you, there are tons of. different varieties of dope out there, and they all vary in potency, taste, side effects, etc. The meth you buy in Kentucky is NOT, by any stretch of the imagination, the meth in California.

I get that there are a plethora of extenuating circumstances that will alter everyone's experience to some degree. I do agree with you there. But if you haven't had a ton of shit dope, than u either don't do it very often, or don't live in a place like KY or Indiana. Because I promise I, it keeps getting stomped on with bullshit because ppl r greedy and by the time it gets to us here, it's mostly garbage. Plus, it's just not the same as when it was made 40 yrs ago.
Very little, if anything in life, is.

Ya know what tells me a lot about a person?.. when they think they can speak for an entire civilizations addiction traits and experiences, that tells me that they have a deluded sense of superiority, probably stemming from arrogance, ignorance, or most likely, a little of both. No disrespect intended, of course.

 

[Didgital]

All fair points but what I did mention is a real thing too. Of course there's different qualities of different drugs, I didn't mean to say there aren't. Yet there has to be a dozen threads on BL alone with people asking same question about different substances and I guarantee you if you wait long enough you'll see yet another about Meth before too long. A prime example is this thread https://www.bluelight.org/community/threads/what-is-wrong-with-the-mdma-available-today-v2.895430/ which has 154 pages on the 2nd iteration of the thread because the first thread reached it max limit of posts. If you go through that thread you're going to see the same arguments and beliefs over and over even when most of the science/lab analytics tell us that MDMA today is largely the same as MDMA of the past. I'd even posit that the methamphetamine argument you made about a lot of meth being racemic vs. the pseudoephedrine route which produced purely D meth has some merit. MDMA has always been produced racemic, all of the newer precursors and synthetic routes for the vast majority still go through the intermediate MDP2P/PMK and you're still gonna have people insist that MDMA just isn't what it used to be, period. And you will have people who say the same about most drugs including meth.

I was really pointing out that there is a very real tendency for people to be nostalgic about when they were actually enjoying the drugs in their hey day of usage and it will just never be the same for them.
And one thing about meth as you said vast majority of it is being cranked out by super labs in mexico where they probably do make a relatively consistent product. People cutting drugs when they hit the street is a different thing.

Yeah it was a bit arrogant and broad speaking my bad. I certainly know a lot less about methamphetamine but I will tell you that I worked for an analytical laboratory where I've tested hundreds of samples of MDMA and also relatively common were black market adderal pills which were almost always methamphetamine. We did not have a polarimetr which would help us identify isomeric ratios so I can't know much about which isomer the meth/aderall pills were. With MDMA almost no one is isolating one isomer over the other.

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

I'm gonna sound really stupid, but that's ok, im used to it, lol. So, here goes.,.. d-meth,?

It's meth that has a stronger mixture of the d isomer over a mixture of D and L isomer which would make the meth racemic.

Basically cleaner and has less negative effects like racing heart / blood pressure.

Honestly I've been having to do more though to get the effect I want which is weird.

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

All fair points but what I did mention is a real thing too. Of course there's different qualities of different drugs, I didn't mean to say there aren't. Yet there has to be a dozen threads on BL alone with people asking same question about different substances and I guarantee you if you wait long enough you'll see yet another about Meth before too long. A prime example is this thread https://www.bluelight.org/community/threads/what-is-wrong-with-the-mdma-available-today-v2.895430/ which has 154 pages on the 2nd iteration of the thread because the first thread reached it max limit of posts. If you go through that thread you're going to see the same arguments and beliefs over and over even when most of the science/lab analytics tell us that MDMA today is largely the same as MDMA of the past. I'd even posit that the methamphetamine argument you made about a lot of meth being racemic vs. the pseudoephedrine route which produced purely D meth has some merit. MDMA has always been produced racemic, all of the newer precursors and synthetic routes for the vast majority still go through the intermediate MDP2P/PMK and you're still gonna have people insist that MDMA just isn't what it used to be, period. And you will have people who say the same about most drugs including meth.

I was really pointing out that there is a very real tendency for people to be nostalgic about when they were actually enjoying the drugs in their hey day of usage and it will just never be the same for them.
And one thing about meth as you said vast majority of it is being cranked out by super labs in mexico where they probably do make a relatively consistent product. People cutting drugs when they hit the street is a different thing.

Yeah it was a bit arrogant and broad speaking my bad. I certainly know a lot less about methamphetamine but I will tell you that I worked for an analytical laboratory where I've tested hundreds of samples of MDMA and also relatively common were black market adderal pills which were almost always methamphetamine. We did not have a polarimetr which would help us identify isomeric ratios so I can't know much about which isomer the meth/aderall pills were. With MDMA almost no one is isolating one isomer over the other.

I agree people go ultra "reddit" mode over chemistry.

I have had all different kinds of incredible ice but the magic is wearing off regardless of how it is produced sadly.