Ketamine Vaping ketamine with a nebulizer?

[Project Will]

As someone who loves ketamine, I am fixated and fascinated about trying to smoke, vape or inhale it. I don't IV anymore. Snorting is good, but my sense of smell has been pretty much fucked. Is it possible to get the desired effects of ketamine using a vaporizer, nebulizer, or some such device? The goal being able to breath in ketamine. This is probably a question for the real smart folks.

There are some handheld nebulizers on Amazon, and I'm wondering if putting k in them would that work? Would the bioavailibility be high enough to make this a worthwhile endeavor? If it works, this would be a great and hugely awesom

 

[Baphomet64]

I tried putting meth in a nebulizer solution, no benefit possible from that, vaping ketamine makes it inactive (I tried that one) because ketamine isn't smokeable I'd recommend turning into pills, usually that makes whatever drug your taking last longer anyways so maybe that's a good ROA for you.

 

[Syntherize]

As someone who loves ketamine, I am fixated and fascinated about trying to smoke, vape or inhale it. I don't IV anymore. Snorting is good, but my sense of smell has been pretty much fucked. Is it possible to get the desired effects of ketamine using a vaporizer, nebulizer, or some such device? The goal being able to breath in ketamine. This is probably a question for the real smart folks.

There are some handheld nebulizers on Amazon, and I'm wondering if putting k in them would that work? Would the bioavailibility be high enough to make this a worthwhile endeavor? If it works, this would be a great and hugely awesom

Ketamine decomposes into toxic byproducts with added heat. It isn’t a smokable substance. Avoid this at all costs.

 

[placebonaut]

Ketamine decomposes into toxic byproducts with added heat. It isn’t a smokable substance. Avoid this at all costs.

hmm, would think that toxic byproducts depends on the heat, yes much more likely if you burn it, but if the temp is low as with vaping then less likely - not to say that I think vaping ket is a good idea, who know's what it's cut with and how that reacts to heat, equally what confidence do you have that your vape rig won't heat it too much and burn it?

a quick search suggest ket's melting points is 250C/500F, gonna need some specific vape rig for that?

seems there's fuck all papers on it, no idea what the bioavailability is via this ROA, and given there's always some idiot who will snort/smoke/slam any drug just to see, I think we'd know by now if vaping/smoking ket was good.

plenty of well proven ROAs, I'll stick with those

 

[Syntherize]

hmm, would think that toxic byproducts depends on the heat, yes much more likely if you burn it, but if the temp is low as with vaping then less likely - not to say that I think vaping ket is a good idea, who know's what it's cut with and how that reacts to heat, equally what confidence do you have that your vape rig won't heat it too much and burn it?

a quick search suggest ket's melting points is 250C/500F, gonna need some specific vape rig for that?

seems there's fuck all papers on it, no idea what the bioavailability is via this ROA, and given there's always some idiot who will snort/smoke/slam any drug just to see, I think we'd know by now if vaping/smoking ket was good.

plenty of well proven ROAs, I'll stick with those

Yep, and 500F is still even below the burning point of most substances, so ketamine should not be vaped or smoked whatsoever.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Ketamine decomposes into toxic byproducts with added heat. It isn’t a smokable substance. Avoid this at all costs.

a quick search suggest ket's melting points is 250C/500F, gonna need some specific vape rig for that?

seems there's fuck all papers on it, no idea what the bioavailability is via this ROA, and given there's always some idiot who will snort/smoke/slam any drug just to see, I think we'd know by now if vaping/smoking ket was good.

so ketamine should not be vaped or smoked whatsoever.

@BadBoy377

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

hmm, would think that toxic byproducts depends on the heat, yes much more likely if you burn it, but if the temp is low as with vaping then less likely - not to say that I think vaping ket is a good idea, who know's what it's cut with and how that reacts to heat, equally what confidence do you have that your vape rig won't heat it too much and burn it?

a quick search suggest ket's melting points is 250C/500F, gonna need some specific vape rig for that?

seems there's fuck all papers on it, no idea what the bioavailability is via this ROA, and given there's always some idiot who will snort/smoke/slam any drug just to see, I think we'd know by now if vaping/smoking ket was good.

plenty of well proven ROAs, I'll stick with those

A fellow EADD member has been mixing Ket with Meth (Ice) & China White in a oil burner pipe over the last few days, I told them I really DIDN'T think this was a good idea & isn't something I would do.

I am like you in I know Ketamine & in all my years I've never heard of anyone smoking it, I had a feeling it would melt & turn to a "smoke" at such a high point it would be insane & that was just a feeling I had which seems to be true.

@Syntherize made it VERY CLEAR & SIMPLE in their post.

 

[Syntherize]

A fellow EADD member has been mixing Ket with Meth (Ice) & China White in a oil burner pipe over the last few days, I told them I really DIDN'T think this was a good idea & isn't something I would do.

I am like you in I know Ketamine & in all my years I've never heard of anyone smoking it, I had a feeling it would melt & turn to a "smoke" at such a high point it would be insane & that was just a feeling I had which seems to be true.

@Syntherize made it VERY CLEAR & SIMPLE in their post.

I don’t understand why anyone would wanna smoke ketamine?!? Like, why not just IM or snort the L and then chase it with some meth out of the pipe? Smh

 

[placebonaut]

I don’t understand why anyone would wanna smoke ketamine?!? Like, why not just IM or snort the L and then chase it with some meth out of the pipe? Smh

just guessing but a few ideas spring to mind, no pins, addiction, boredom, experimentation, finishing off a bag, depression, lack of fucking chocolate!

having done my fair share of stupid things for/with/because drugs it's no real surprise tbh, people go through all sorts of shit and make far worse decisions.

I remember smoking coke when I was young, not crack, coke. I remember distinctly having the conversation with my buddy, I wonder if you can smoke it? let's try and see what happens, money well spent, round here we call it idiot tax.

frequently bought random pills and powders from street dealers who I didn't know from adam and knew no-one who had tried them, straight inside they went without a thought or care in the world. Thankfully the worst thing that ever happened was I got speed pills rather that E, or robbed (tip don't buy from street dealers in brixton at 2am....).

 

[trndvd]

Yo this is wild

 

[Syntherize]

just guessing but a few ideas spring to mind, no pins, addiction, boredom, experimentation, finishing off a bag, depression, lack of fucking chocolate!

having done my fair share of stupid things for/with/because drugs it's no real surprise tbh, people go through all sorts of shit and make far worse decisions.

I remember smoking coke when I was young, not crack, coke. I remember distinctly having the conversation with my buddy, I wonder if you can smoke it? let's try and see what happens, money well spent, round here we call it idiot tax.

frequently bought random pills and powders from street dealers who I didn't know from adam and knew no-one who had tried them, straight inside they went without a thought or care in the world. Thankfully the worst thing that ever happened was I got speed pills rather that E, or robbed (tip don't buy from street dealers in brixton at 2am....).

I used to roll my cigs in cocaine too as a teen but it is such a waste and you’re smoking so many cuts smh lol

 

[BadBoy377]

*Ahem"

Well just to get things straight (or super wonky) the ketamine was a pretty minor addition to the cocktail and definitely altered the quality of the experience.

I had actually been experimenting with different ways of smoking rock and after being relatively unimpressed with them I ended up firing a bit of everything in and trying that. I think the standard blend was...

50-100mg freebase coke
50mg brown #3
30-50mg methamphetamine HCl
30-70mg ketamine

Smoked in oil burner classic meth style pipe 3 or 4 big hits, held in as long as comfort allowed. Smoke was acrid, unpleasant and powerful. Definitely a lot more enjoyable than just smoking the rock on its own. Quite an overpowering feeling of fucked up ness, very pleasurable coordination heavily affected and staying seated the only sensible option I'd say. As an overall experience If give four falling stars out of five. Maybe three and a half if you're sensitive to the heavy choking smoke.

I certainly would NOT recommend anyone try this. Me? I was just experimenting. Suspect my rock is a bit shit but I've never really enjoyed cocaine even the good stuff shared with me by friends. I had ended up with couple grams rock and as I say did not particularly enjoy the traditional methods. TBH I have smoked many drugs not meant for smoking with varying degrees of success. I don't really use a lot of k but had a few cheap bags lying around. I'm pretty sure I read that 2-FDCK could be smoked but again could be wrong. Normally I would just snort the k.

Thanks very much everyone (especially @Zopiclone bandit ) for your interest and input. As of tonight I'd like to reassure you that the methamphetamine is just smoked on its own and as far as combinations go I am now just using a harmless mix of rock and brown.

BB

 

[placebonaut]

*Ahem"

Well just to get things straight (or super wonky) the ketamine was a pretty minor addition to the cocktail and definitely altered the quality of the experience.

interesting! could you pick out the ket effects? do you think it was the ket that made it so harsh?

I'm pretty sure I read that 2-FDCK could be smoked but again could be wrong.

I might be wrong but think it's snorted/oral typically.

I've had a bit more of a look at smoking ket and the freebase has a melting point of 92.5C (no info on vap point though after a quick search), there also appears to be a few studies on nebulized dry powder ket HCI working with bioavailability of 50-70%, and at 62% in rats. not sure about prepping the ket HCI for this though, I've a vague recollection of having some asthma inhaler as a powder years ago and think it was very very very fine. I'm barely able to be bothered to crush the crystals....

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28759464/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35429651/

no idea about making freebase from the HCI either, I've never done any freebase.

 

[BadBoy377]

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interesting! could you pick out the ket effects? do you think it was the ket that made it so harsh?

I might be wrong but think it's snorted/oral typically.

I've had a bit more of a look at smoking ket and the freebase has a melting point of 92.5C (no info on vap point though after a quick search), there also appears to be a few studies on nebulized dry powder ket HCI working with bioavailability of 50-70%, and at 62% in rats. not sure about prepping the ket HCI for this though, I've a vague recollection of having some asthma inhaler as a powder years ago and think it was very very very fine. I'm barely able to be bothered to crush the crystals....

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28759464/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35429651/

no idea about making freebase from the HCI either, I've never done any freebase.

Aye. I'd say you could definitely feel the ketamine's contribution but it is just another layer of inebriation in an already heady mix. You're getting pulled in a lot of different directions already.

Thanks for information. For me personally I don't particularly want to put any more effort or resources into it than what I already have. Ketamine is cheap and plentiful but not something I really do regularly. Id be interested to know how much k is actual see event product (definitely some) and how much is some weird Chinese analogue...

Don't believe the pipe,

BB

 

[Syntherize]

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Aye. I'd say you could definitely feel the ketamine's contribution but it is just another layer of inebriation in an already heady mix. You're getting pulled in a lot of different directions already.

Thanks for information. For me personally I don't particularly want to put any more effort or resources into it than what I already have. Ketamine is cheap and plentiful but not something I really do regularly. Id be interested to know how much k is actual see event product (definitely some) and how much is some weird Chinese analogue...

Don't believe the pipe,

BB

Don’t stack two stimulants on top of each other! This is basic harm reduction advice and it is true to the “T” since cocaine is already cardiotoxic while meth is neurotoxic alongside the fact both contribute to wild fluctuations in blood pressure. Trying to vape ketamine is the dumbest thing in the world. If you don’t understand basic drug chemistry I suggest your “experiments” remain rooted in common science/knowledge. You can look up the melting/kindling/burning point of ketamine online as well as learning about its decomposition with added heat. If you actually really want to feel full on effects of K how about IM’ing ~150mg, but remember that you can only dissolve ~100mg of K per milliliter of water at standard room temperature (solubility is another factor that you should know about your drugs).

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

If you actually really want to feel full on effects of K how about IM’ing ~150mg

I said to him before to snort that much, to shoot that much would put you flat on your arse (imho)

 

[Syntherize]

I said to him before to snort that much, to shoot that much would put you flat on your arse (imho)

Anyone who has never dabbled in full on IM ketamine doses exceeding 100mgs truly doesn’t understand ketamine whatsoever. It sounds to me like this person just likes making stupid decisions with drugs, and we all know the end result of such behavior.

 

[BadBoy377]

It sounds to me like this person just likes making stupid decisions with drugs, and we all know the end result of such behavior.

Aye, does it now?

Well it sounds to me like you just like being a judgemental prick without bothering to obtain a full understanding of the situation as it is. But there you go. Opinions are just like arseholes. The internet is full of them.

 

[Syntherize]

Aye, does it now?

Well it sounds to me like you just like being a judgemental prick without bothering to obtain a full understanding of the situation as it is. But there you go. Opinions are just like arseholes. The internet is full of them.

It’s not an opinion it is basic science. This is a harm reduction site and while you may not care you are inadvertently spreading misinformation about being able to vaporize/smoke ketamine safely. I’m not the only one here that is being like WTF? I’m just posting in order to keep the air clear for the rest of us. You can do as you please. I just like to inform people of the facts grounded in science not hearsay.

 

[Syntherize]

As someone who loves ketamine, I am fixated and fascinated about trying to smoke, vape or inhale it. I don't IV anymore. Snorting is good, but my sense of smell has been pretty much fucked. Is it possible to get the desired effects of ketamine using a vaporizer, nebulizer, or some such device? The goal being able to breath in ketamine. This is probably a question for the real smart folks.

There are some handheld nebulizers on Amazon, and I'm wondering if putting k in them would that work? Would the bioavailibility be high enough to make this a worthwhile endeavor? If it works, this would be a great and hugely awesom

You’re better off making a nasal spray solution in order to prevent the damage to your nasal tissue that you speak of and that goes for everyone else as well.