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Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v 12

recovery100£ said:
Yeh I’ve seen that too, I think they’re all just shit and harmful but there’s hope for all of us, and also I can’t feel anxiety or adrenaline either bro so it’s not just you, it’ll just take time tbh, when you start feeling it again you’ll know you’ve recovered somewhat!
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It’s weird not feeling it isn’t it! I had to give uo driving and I fucking loved driving man, my cars sat there! That and the dvla are a bit hit and miss when you have a psychological problem which sucks but I nearly crashed 3 times due to not having a good reaction time so.. she was parked up and forgotten.. also when I first had psychosis and came out of it my anxiety was through the roof! It’s unnerving not having anxiety as bizzare as that sounds
 
I was frustrated with my slow recovery so gagged on Saturday. It's a bad habit that I adopted in February. However when I did it those times it didn't have such a bad affect on my brain. Do you know if my brain can recover from this? AI says it's gone into a freeze mode. I was recovering slowly from my last dose but after gagging it seemed to do something in my brain where I don't have anhedonia like before in that now everything is neutral whereas before there was a lot of negative and some positive. What's going on? Now nothing brings me satisfaction after the Saturday gag whereas before a few things would. Anyone have an idea. It's like my dopamine and serotonin receptors were already sensitive and after gagging it disrupted them and the oxytocin receptors. It feels so isolating cause nobody else knows about the effects of paliperidone and gagging, as it does some kind of neurological damage.
 
Brendan Clark said:
I was frustrated with my slow recovery so gagged on Saturday. It's a bad habit that I adopted in February. However when I did it those times it didn't have such a bad affect on my brain. Do you know if my brain can recover from this? AI says it's gone into a freeze mode. I was recovering slowly from my last dose but after gagging it seemed to do something in my brain where I don't have anhedonia like before in that now everything is neutral whereas before there was a lot of negative and some positive. What's going on? Now nothing brings me satisfaction after the Saturday gag whereas before a few things would. Anyone have an idea. It's like my dopamine and serotonin receptors were already sensitive and after gagging it disrupted them and the oxytocin receptors. It feels so isolating cause nobody else knows about the effects of paliperidone and gagging, as it does some kind of neurological damage.
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What is "gagging"?
 
Well, not that anyone asked but I had sex for the first time in 5 months yesterday, I was able to maintain throughout although there was no mental rush during orgasm BUT the feeling was of peace and calm afterwards so im about 40% healed in that respect as drive is very inconsistent but it’s was a big deal for me so I thought I’d share with y’all who are wondering if you’ll ever get the capability back
 
Brendan Clark said:
I was frustrated with my slow recovery so gagged on Saturday. It's a bad habit that I adopted in February. However when I did it those times it didn't have such a bad affect on my brain. Do you know if my brain can recover from this? AI says it's gone into a freeze mode. I was recovering slowly from my last dose but after gagging it seemed to do something in my brain where I don't have anhedonia like before in that now everything is neutral whereas before there was a lot of negative and some positive. What's going on? Now nothing brings me satisfaction after the Saturday gag whereas before a few things would. Anyone have an idea. It's like my dopamine and serotonin receptors were already sensitive and after gagging it disrupted them and the oxytocin receptors. It feels so isolating cause nobody else knows about the effects of paliperidone and gagging, as it does some kind of neurological damage.
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Is it where you induce a short hypoxia / starve from oxygen and it gives you a temporary relief? I used to do that last time I had psychosis, it’s not ideal man but you kinda go do neutral afterwards but eventually it goes away
 
blanch116 said:
Is it where you induce a short hypoxia / starve from oxygen and it gives you a temporary relief? I used to do that last time I had psychosis, it’s not ideal man but you kinda go do neutral afterwards but eventually it goes away
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It's basically where you try to belch as if you're vomiting but nothing comes out. AI says that my brain has gone into a state of freeze and that my oxytocin receptors have been blocked. That's why I'm not even finding satisfaction in speaking to people, because oxytocin is apparently the hormone needed for people to make connections. Also, after I gagged, I couldn't feel music as well as before (it was already affected by invega but got worse after gagging), and am not as satisfied when eating food as before.
 
Brendan Clark said:
It's basically where you try to belch as if you're vomiting but nothing comes out. AI says that my brain has gone into a state of freeze and that my oxytocin receptors have been blocked. That's why I'm not even finding satisfaction in speaking to people, because oxytocin is apparently the hormone needed for people to make connections. Also, after I gagged, I couldn't feel music as well as before (it was already affected by invega but got worse after gagging), and am not as satisfied when eating food as before.
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It's a bad habit that was formed when I get stressed out. I was stressing out about my slow invega recovery and I did it. It made matters worse for me. Hopefully my brain will recover. It also caused extra insomnia and prevented my dreams from being as vivid.
 
Brendan Clark said:
It's basically where you try to belch as if you're vomiting but nothing comes out. AI says that my brain has gone into a state of freeze and that my oxytocin receptors have been blocked. That's why I'm not even finding satisfaction in speaking to people, because oxytocin is apparently the hormone needed for people to make connections. Also, after I gagged, I couldn't feel music as well as before (it was already affected by invega but got worse after gagging), and am not as satisfied when eating food as before.
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Hell man thats rough, im more than familiar with the neutral feeling though but thats from the shots (it’s what im left with now but I also had it from repeated short term self induced hypoxia last time) hopefully it’s not for long dude, it’s strange it’s effected how music and food interact with you im sorry to hear it mate :(
 
blanch116 said:
Hell man thats rough, im more than familiar with the neutral feeling though but thats from the shots (it’s what im left with now but I also had it from repeated short term self induced hypoxia last time) hopefully it’s not for long dude, it’s strange it’s effected how music and food interact with you im sorry to hear it mate :(
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Yeah the neutral feeling is when before the gagging I new what I disliked and had apathy because of invega but there were still little things I found pleasure in, like the cloud formation in the sky or the wind blowing on my chest. Now nothing brings me pleasure, and I don't know what I don't dislike, and don't have apathy, but everything is just grey and ordinary.
 
Even coming on this site and the Facebook one brought me some degree of satisfaction before I gagged on Saturday, but now, because of the oxytocin being depleted, it doesn't give me any drive or buzz if you know what I mean. Speaking to people brought me some satisfaction too before this gagging episode but now it doesn't change how I feel whatsoever.
 
Brendan Clark said:
Even coming on this site and the Facebook one brought me some degree of satisfaction before I gagged on Saturday, but now, because of the oxytocin being depleted, it doesn't give me any drive or buzz if you know what I mean. Speaking to people brought me some satisfaction too before this gagging episode but now it doesn't change how I feel whatsoever.
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That's rough, man. Sorry you're struggling with this. I hope you're able to find some relief and pleasure again, I admit this is my first time hearing of gagging and I don't know much about it, but hopefully the effects you're having are not very longlasting.
 
dopamineClippedAngel said:
That's rough, man. Sorry you're struggling with this. I hope you're able to find some relief and pleasure again, I admit this is my first time hearing of gagging and I don't know much about it, but hopefully the effects you're having are not very longlasting.
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Yeah I gagged in February, March and May but because I had less doses of invega it didn't impact me as much. When it's coupled with multiple doses of invega it's like torment. I no longer have the word 'like' in my vocabulary. I hope I find some relief too, cause I can't imagine 60 more years of this...
 
blanch116 said:
How’re you getting on man? Must be coming up a year since your second lot of Injections
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I doing okay mate thanks for asking! I still have some issues caused by the 9 abilify injections, my last injection was about 11 months ago I think.

I still have muscle weakness, bad general/working memory, some genital numbness, sometimes I struggle to pronounce certain words and speak clearly. I forget what I am saying or want to say mid sentence often too. Defo have a few screws loose in my brain.

But over all I still believe I can improve, and I am doing so much better than I was a year ago. I am no longer totally miserable. No longer restless, I have interest in things again and can feel enjoyment and feelings of relaxation.

On abilify I would literally pace all night on my own staring at bluelight, not knowing when I would get off the shots. Absolutely fucked.

I am grateful that's over now.
 
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