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A thought I had in the shower...

Wolfmans_BrothEr

Wolfmans_BrothEr

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I wanna start this off by saying I'm a firm believer in evolution. I don't think there's some guy in the skies pulling strings, and yet I am still fairly spiritual. I don't follow any one religion, throughout my life I've always gone back and fourth as to whether there really is a god.

Then the other day the thought dawned on me. I thought about the cannabis plant, and I wondered why it was originally created? I mean it's not a fruit, as far as I know it doesnt really benefit the planet or the environment that it grows in. It doesn't supply shelter for animals, it seems pretty much pointless.

And then I realized this plant was pretty much was pointless for millions of years until a species came along sophisticated enough to extract it's chemical properties and achieve an effect from them. How could nature have known that a species would be able to find a way to use this plant for how it was originally intended (I.e. rope, smoke, edibles)

Now I'm not saying that it's god's wish for us to smoke weed, I only used it as an example. this could be applied to a multitude of things we use (not including man made solutions from plants, for example cocaine or heroin)

Basically in a nutshell what I'm saying is WHY is there even this weed plant on our planet? It was around wayyyy before anyone knew how to use it, and yet it had no purpose until we discovered it. Almost as if it were placed here solely for us, and whoever created our universe (if that's indeed what happened) that maybe their plan stretched beyond Adam & Eve and much further into the history of our planet

I hope I'm not the only one that can make sense of this, and I guess you could say this belongs in my blog, but I
want others opinions on this theory
 
Im pretty sure it has a place in our ecosystem if only to produce oxygen in rough terrain. It also is valuable for its fiber and oil... whose to say cows cant eat it or something as well. Bees make honey out of it perhaps?
 
Wolfmans_BrothEr said:
Basically in a nutshell what I'm saying is WHY is there even this weed plant on our planet? It was around wayyyy before anyone knew how to use it, and yet it had no purpose until we discovered it. Almost as if it were placed here solely for us...
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a level of arrogance of which only humans are capable? :)

if you reduce your argument, we're basically at "why is there something where there could be nothing?".

related reading:

Why is there something when there could be nothing?
What is the point of life?

alasdair
 
It's fallacious to assume evolution has intent. The cannabis plant is here because it was selected for -- there is no reason or end, it just happened.
 
wolf man, you are on to something, in a nutshell ;-) the chlorophyll in marijuana plants is a very good thing.

the whole damn plant - IMO - is a massive allegorical statement to the universe.


this is a favorite daydream of mine, that is very difficult to run with.!
awesome! but - limited in thought and opinion i am sure
lol
the spice must flow, just the oil is in its self a gift like hardly any-other.
 
Aether said:
It's fallacious to assume evolution has intent. The cannabis plant is here because it was selected for -- there is no reason or end, it just happened.
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Well kind of. If by 'intent' you interpret that as a survivor mechanism which was not chosen but survived. Its being is a result of surviving rather than selected by arbitrary unconscious reasoning. :)
 
Shrooms00087 said:
Well kind of. If by 'intent' you interpret that as a survivor mechanism which was not chosen but survived. Its being is a result of surviving, selected by arbitrary unconscious reasoning. :)
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Actually I did notice a mistake. There is no rather, it is a process of arbitrary unconscious reasoning.
 
Then the other day the thought dawned on me. I thought about the cannabis plant, and I wondered why it was originally created? I mean it's not a fruit, as far as I know it doesnt really benefit the planet or the environment that it grows in. It doesn't supply shelter for animals, it seems pretty much pointless.
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Isn't all life pointless if you really want to get down to brass tacks? You have a very anthropocentric way of looking at the world, in which anything that is not instrumentally useful to humans is "pointless". What is the point of a great white shark or a polar bear? The idea of benefiting the planet is contingent on human conceptions of ethics. Life does not exist for any particular reason, it just exists.
 
Vader said:
Isn't all life pointless if you really want to get down to brass tacks? You have a very anthropocentric way of looking at the world, in which anything that is not instrumentally useful to humans is "pointless". What is the point of a great white shark or a polar bear? The idea of benefiting the planet is contingent on human conceptions of ethics. Life does not exist for any particular reason, it just exists.
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Your pretty over the top when you say I view the WORLD that way. As a matter of fact in my OP I mention as to whether it benefits animals or the environment.

The title of the thread is "a thought I had in the shower" not "im a self centered piece of shit who knows the meaning of life" It was just a thought, this is philosophy and spirituality I should be able to be philosophical without being criticized for it...wtf
 
Animals that eat from the cannabis plant are poisoned by the psychoactive compounds. This, combined with its fast growth and certain other characteristics, create an evolutionary benefit because the cannabis plant will outgrow other plants and animals will not eat it, since they will get sick. Or, to please your anthropocentric reasoning: Sedimentation will cause the weed plant to slowly turn into oil, providing fuel for the lighter you use to light up your joint.
 
Also, THC is a strong UV absorber, and protects the plant from harsh sunlight, providing benefit to the organism (plant) and so further selection pressure.
 
it consumes a massive amount of CO2, and its Sex is manipulated by Light - this will help us morph into the future...Otherwise, we might be having cockAroach DnA in with Ours


light it up pass it around put it in the air *
 
Your pretty over the top when you say I view the WORLD that way. As a matter of fact in my OP I mention as to whether it benefits animals or the environment.

The title of the thread is "a thought I had in the shower" not "im a self centered piece of shit who knows the meaning of life" It was just a thought, this is philosophy and spirituality I should be able to be philosophical without being criticized for it...wtf
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My point was that your conception of purpose seems to be as entirely instrumental, ie that the plant only has a purpose if it benefits something else. Why can't it just be for its own sake? I wasn't criticising, just discussing the idea, and if I offended you or made you feel like you were being attacked I really do apologise.
 
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