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Most mindfucky Psychedelic

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In your guys' experience, what is the most mindfucky psychedelic? I have experience with shrooms, LSD, and 2c-p, and I find shrooms to be the most mindfucky. I recently tried 11mgs of 2c-p, and found it to be too clear headed. 2c-p gave me the most intense visual/auditory experience I have ever felt. However, mentally, I found 2c-p to be very disappointing. Shrooms, and, to a lesser extent LSD both put you in a different world mentally. 2c-p seemed to be a very weak drug, at least mentally. Have other people had similar experiences on 2c-x?
 
A lot of people find the 2C-x class of drugs to be shallow mentally. I've had experience with 2C-I, 2C-T-2, 2C-E, and 2C-C. 2C-T-2 allowed me to be very open with other people, 2C-C was no mental effects unless I smoked, 2C-E was very clear and analytical, 2C-I was stimulating and made me kind of anxious (DOC was similar but more pleasant feeling overall than 2C-I). I've done DPT, DMT, 4-AcO-DMT/Shrooms, 4-HO-MPT, and 5-MeO-MiPT as far as tryptamines go. They all put you way out there, I was literally floored at a concert on 5-MeO-MiPT, I had to lay down because I couldn't help but thinking of how I was going to college, overall I was very open and empatheogenic, had thought patterns like shrooms and was more introspective. DMT and DPT can teach you a lot about yourself but its hard to describe what kind of world you're in. 4-HO-MPT had a shitty mental headspace.

I guess my vote goes for 4-AcO-DMT/Shrooms, 5-MeO-MiPT or 2C-C with a healthy dose of ganja (but I bet any psychedelic with weed would be wacky, its just not something I do frequently).
 
I have to agree with Mushrooms being incredibly "mindfucky."

I would say more of that they have the potential to cause the most intense mental experiences. I feel like LSD can do the same except that LSD makes me incredibly analytical which can prevent some mindfuck due to me just feeling the mental effects of a stimulant-in that I just feel superhuman but with love instead of ego.

I <3 LSD.
 
LOL amusing question. The most "mindfucky" psychedelic, eh?

Ayahuasca is pretty damn mindfucky. Don't expect to be able to just toy with that stuff, though.
 
I had many expirience with psychedelics and all the expiriences where unique cause of the set and setting factor the psychedelic substance is mearly a key too the door of conciousness from there on it depends on how long you gonna ride the "snake" and how far you gonna get ,usually we have the most "mindfucky" expiriences when the set and setting alows it mental preparation for a long voyage can get you very far but unprepaired voyage may most likely result in failure.
beside that there is also a role which the psychedelic plays so lsd and Dmt are the most strong keys to open perception and enter spiritual trance state
try reading http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/psychedelic_experience/psychedelic_experience.shtml gonna shine alot of light on how you perceive psychedelic expirience.. yOUR mind is the factor which gonna make psychedelic expirience "mindfucky" or lame hallucinatory state nirvana or anxiety etc.
 
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Unlike shishigami, I would include 2C-E in the mindfuck category. It's given me visions, and friends who use mushrooms all the time have said it was too much at 18 mg oral (which is a decent though not super high dose). All the others have been mentioned already. Smoked DMT and salvia (especially salvia) are on a whole other level and I'm not sure if that's what you have in mind. I'd say ayahuasca and intramuscular DPT are about as mindfucky as it gets while staying in the LSD/mushrooms classic 5-HT psychedelic type of experience vein. 5-MeO-DMT is also extremely mindfucking, but it's really different from other psychedelics, potentially because of its reportedly high 5HT1a activity relative to 5HT2a (it's almost always the same "dissolving of the self into static and light" sort of experience). Also, ketamine/strong tryptamine combos are pretty reliable mind fuckers.
 
Mushrooms, and to a slightly lesser extent 4-aco-dmt, are extremely "mindfucky" for me
Whenever I trip on them I seem to not be able to follow conversations and I never know what the hell is going on, which often leads to some awkward conversations

I prefer clear-headed trips like 2C-E where I can interact with sober people and appear sober
 
I cast my vote for mushrooms/4-aco-dmt. It really depends what you're into / not into. Most psychedelics "fuck" your mind in some way. With LSD I think scattered, simultaneous but shallow thoughts. Like I'll draw connections between a million different seemingly unrelated things at once, but then quickly move on to a new train of thought. With Mushrooms I latch on to one thought and think about every aspect of it until there's nothing left to think about... but then I keep going with it. I find the latter much more exhausting for some reason. The mescaline "mind-fuck" is pretty light, and hard to describe, but its less jarring than either Mushrooms or LSD. With DMT, I don't have a mind to fuck anymore.
 
yardbirdrc said:
I cast my vote for mushrooms/4-aco-dmt. It really depends what you're into / not into. Most psychedelics "fuck" your mind in some way. With LSD I think scattered, simultaneous but shallow thoughts. Like I'll draw connections between a million different seemingly unrelated things at once, but then quickly move on to a new train of thought. With Mushrooms I latch on to one thought and think about every aspect of it until there's nothing left to think about... but then I keep going with it. I find the latter much more exhausting for some reason. The mescaline "mind-fuck" is pretty light, and hard to describe, but its less jarring than either Mushrooms or LSD. With DMT, I don't have a mind to fuck anymore.
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hahahahahahaha awesome, I totally agree
 
I find the 2cs real less headfucky, hence the reason they are my choice when I'm planning to socialize but still want some trippyness. LSD is the most for me though, I've had some crazy headfucks on that stuff and the stories from others just keep coming. Love the stuff. :)
 
Mushrooms, probably. Also, dissociatives can definitely fuck with your head. Everyday, mundane things suddenly become strange, confusing, and interesting on a high enough dose.
 
Mushrooms = very mindfucky. Especially when you smoke weed or do dissociatives while on them.. weird shit happens, yo.
 
From the psychedelics I've tried, LSD takes the cake, followed by 2C-P. Shrooms has NEVER been any bit of mind fuck for me, nothing but bliss, fun, and euphoria :).
 
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