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Opioids Injecting brand name Dilaudid

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I have UTFSE (past tense) but there didn't seem to be a mega thread about this specifically.

I have brand name Dilaudid 4mg pills which are prescribed to me for excruciating jaw pain, I like the high from it so I do not waste them using them orally.

The inert ingredients in Dilaudid are minimal and apparently non water-soluble. They are this : Lactose and Magnesium stearate.

Solubility in water for Lactose : 21.6 g/100 ml

And apparently magnesium stearate is not water soluble although I think I read different here but I am not sure. When I use the cottons they give with the securicups (sterile little packages with a cup, a plastic handle to put on it in case you heat your drugs (which I don't for Dilaudid, and never really did, I guess that's useful if you IV cocaine), a little cylinder shaped cotton which is probably better than a q-tip and a thing to put over your injection site. I'm rambling because my main question is : how come there is barely anything left in the cup after crushing 2 dilaudid 4mg and using the filter with the needle...there is about nothing left in the cup except a few little specks of yellow matter. I'm very nervous that the magnesium stearate is actually breaking into other products when it gets in contact with water...


Although I heard a million times it doesn't dissolve into water...does it all get stuck in the cotton ? 8(

edit : I got my info about them here :

http://www.purdue.ca/files/Dilaudid PM EN.pdf
 
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Hey man, there is actually a Dilaudid/ Hydromorphone Megathread in which this topic has been covered. Also, check out the inactive ingredients thread where you can see particulate sizes of binders and fillers. I'm not your mother so you can search for them... if you can't find them, let me know and I will link you.

Also, check out the links in my signature for more information about how to safely shoot pills. I would highly recommend micron-filtering. If your main source of injection supplies is a needle exchange, ask about the SteriFilt which is a filter specifically designed for IV drug use that fits on top of the SteriCup. If they have one, they can certainly get the other.

Magnesium Stereate is not soluble in water and it does not undergo a chemical reaction, that said, cotton alone (unless a specially designed filter???) will not have fine enough pores to filter it out.

I would point out here that James Fogle (author of Drugstore Cowboy) is currently dieing in prison from Pulmonary Edema which is caused by insoluble binders being filtered out by the capillaries in your lungs which is where they get stuck when IV'd.
 
Magnesium stearate is basically old-school bar soap, it is a fatty acid salt. It's added as a binding agent.

Dilaudids are one of the safer pills to inject, but if you do not use a micron filter then you can still have particulate as big as 50-60 microns in your syringe. However if you are worried about the effects of injecting either lactose or Mg-Stearate, all 3 are fairly harmless in the blood and body and should be borken down/excreted/dissolved rapidly.
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Hey man, there is actually a Dilaudid/ Hydromorphone Megathread in which this topic has been covered. Also, check out the inactive ingredients thread where you can see particulate sizes of binders and fillers. I'm not your mother so you can search for them... if you can't find them, let me know and I will link you.

Also, check out the links in my signature for more information about how to safely shoot pills. I would highly recommend micron-filtering. If your main source of injection supplies is a needle exchange, ask about the SteriFilt which is a filter specifically designed for IV drug use that fits on top of the SteriCup. If they have one, they can certainly get the other.

Magnesium Stereate is not soluble in water and it does not undergo a chemical reaction, that said, cotton alone (unless a specially designed filter???) will not have fine enough pores to filter it out.

I would point out here that James Fogle (author of Drugstore Cowboy) is currently dieing in prison from Pulmonary Edema which is caused by insoluble binders being filtered out by the capillaries in your lungs which is where they get stuck when IV'd.
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If it's not water soluble, how could it be in the water solution in the syringe ?
 
Cotton filters to about 40 microns. (If I remember correctly) Mag stereate is like .40-.60 microns as far as particulate size, so since the pores in the filter are two orders of magnitude larger than the particulate size, how the fuck is it going to filter it?

You would know this if you had simply searched for the two things I told you to search for.

I hate to see people be reckless with drugs, but if you wont do research, or even search, don't expect to always be spoon-fed information on this site. Fuck.
 
I looked around and contacted a knowledgeable person through PM. Don't get angry, basically I'm told that there is little to fear from these canadian Purdue dilaudids injection-wise. Thanks sekio. I did search, nothing was conclusive in my searches and as noted i did UTFSE.

See when I registered, I lurk a lot, and my general understanding was that most Dilaudid pills were okay to inject safely without a micron filter, which would be the only pill to be like this. And if something is not water soluble...it's not water soluble, it would stay behind and not mix in with the water.
 
It becomes suspended in the water. What don't you understand about this? I just checked, and yep, cotton filters @ 30-40 microns and mag stereate is .40-.50 microns, which will go straight through a cotton filter and into your syringe. If you aren't seeing much in the spoon left over, most of it is either in the filter or in your arm.

If mag stereate is harmful to inject, I will leave for you to decide.
 
I am not sure how to use this forum , but i recently banged an 8mg dilaudid, new rig, did not miss, yet i have all these hives or blotches on my arm. does anyone know what this is, or how to treat it?
 
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