• MDMA &
    Empathogenic
    Drugs

    Welcome Guest!
  • MDMA Moderators: Esperighanto

MDMA and happiness

For me, the MDMA experience isn't nearly as profound as a real psychedelic experience, like from LCD or mushrooms. Those things truly reveal the subjective nature of experience, plug you in to the eternal mystery of the universe, and force you to let go of your ego. Actually being on MDMA seems to be at least as profound as this, but looking back I'm usually just like, "Yep, I was pretty screwed up on drugs."

Still, I do think it has some value (aside from being a blast). It helps you let go of your neuroses and be yourself without obliterating your senses as alcohol does. At its best, a night on MDMA is very refreshing, analogous to a weekend spent hiking and camping in the wilderness. It can help me recharge and relax, and I have retained some of that feeling for some time afterwards.

I'm curious as to whether those of you who think that MDMA is a powerful, profound, and lasting valuable experience had tripped on psychedelics before, or whether MDMA was your first experience with "real drugs."
 
infinitejester said:
I'm curious as to whether those of you who think that MDMA is a powerful, profound, and lasting valuable experience had tripped on psychedelics before, or whether MDMA was your first experience with "real drugs."
Click to expand...

I've had some extremely intense mushroom trips, also profound. Just because the experiences are different doesn't make one less profound than the other.
 
MDMA has merits that LSD and mush do not. It doesn't feel like a sacrament like tripping can, it's almost like a forbidden fruit. One that I reallllllly enjoy eating from time to time. Psychedelics make me "not cool" with a lot of things, like egotistical drunk strangers vibes for instance, but MDMA is all-accepting. For myself, the complete lack of social inhibition can only be achieved with MDMA. I too take it so I can be my true self, with no bullshit, unaffected by tribal shit like stranger anxiety and the like. I can totally understand that study on MDMA... I never really notice other peoples feelings, I see other people as a reflection of my own love, everyone is just so happy to me. I am so happy that I am unresponsive to any non-happy feelings of others. And the way I choose to perceive other people has an effect on the way they interact with me, so everyone for the most part just ends up being really friendly towards me. With MDMA, there is no choice, everything is just pure love. Off MDMA, it's another matter and requires a lot of effort to be that happy for most. Clearly, not everyone is as happy as I think they are, in fact, I am probably the happiest person on the dance floor apart from other non-abusing rollers. Typically I receive comment after comment about how great my vibes are and how cool I am throughout the night.

I have friends who definately have "figured it out" after using MDMA. They used a lot of it, realized that they had to learn how to be happy without using chemical drugs, and they have been all smiles for years. I am not one of those people however. MDMA taught me that I have the potential to be that way all the time, but I am still caught up in tribal and ego shit that I have yet to get over. It has set me on a path towards that state of mind, but it is totally in my hands and drugs are probably going to harm more than hurt apart from mushrooms and acid. If anything so far, MDMA has made me more introverted. I don't go out nearly as much, because I don't really see a point in doing so unless I'm raving out. However, I recently have managed to quit smoking pot, and for me, this has been an immensely large step towards achieving perpetual happiness and openness. Pot and MDMA are polar opposites in my opinion, and for the longest time, I have allowed my dope addiction to obscure my natural tendency towards love and openness that I got from rolling, since that terrible, terrible drug makes me extremely socially timid and paranoid. I feel that, after using MDMA 30 or so times, that taking more of it isn't going to help however. But damn, I haven't socialized in months, and I have the opportunity to use MDMA tomorrow after a 3 month break, and I've only done it twice this year. I feel like a nice night of love would help shock my system out of non-perpetual happiness lol. I think though, that since I haven't been doing any drugs at all for a while apart from the odd mushroom trip, and I have been doing a lot of self-reflection, that I no longer require MDMA to be that way. (Me off marijuana and a little drunk = stoner me on MDMA, basically). So tomorrow I am just going to go out, have some beers, not give a fuck and just be myself, because if I continue to use MDMA after doing it so much, bad things are bound to occur, as I have had warning signs in the past that I have maybe been doing it a little too much.
 
Last edited:
Tenchi said:
When it comes down to it, the only reason we exist at all is due to chemical reactions. We are more than the sum of our parts The MDMA experience is so much more than the sum of its parts.

It profoundly changed my life for the better. I'd be nowhere near the person I am today if it weren't for these experiences.
Click to expand...

I agree with this. No father back than February 2011 was I completely and utterly against Ecstasy or MDMA (though I had no idea MDMA existed... err, the difference between X and Molly at the time). All my friends were taking it one night so I tried a quarter pill (it was bunk, though. Mostly caffeine. I tested it a few months later). But one month after that I got a GREAT batch of legit MDMA ecstasy. I rolled with a chick I had met about 10 hours earlier, my best friend's cousin and one of my friends... a whole bunch of weird people to be rolling for the first time with...

That being said, though, once I was peaking, the euphoria was overwhelming! To the point where I was squirming on the floor because of how good my clothes felt on my skin. I would look outside at the lake in front of my house and was litterally in love with it and with the whole entire world. This complete sense of completion and acceptance flowing through my body... It was like nothing I had ever felt before... in fact, I didn't even know such feelings were possible.

After that day... I was sold. MDMA is perhaps one of the most magnificent things that has happened to me. Especially this year, being that this has been a VERY hard year for me. I don't know how well I would have done without Molly.

Of course, I abused a bit (ended up doing it 10 times in 6 months) and decided to take a break and start respecting the substance. Imo, there's nothing "fake" about the feelings you have on MDMA. In fact, I think it's anything but. I think it's how the world is meant to be. Everyone loving each other and everyone being kind and friendly. Everyone feeling great. Not selfish, suspicious, evil, war-driven and greedy! We're just raised in a system that goes against what MDMA makes you feel... I would say that's why people would call it fake. It's not fake. If it is, then so is the euphoria you feel during an orgasm or the love you feel for your children!


squarerootof23 said:
Ok, I gotta chime in here.

I'm older. I have now taken m1 once, and mdma once. So, what do I know, right?

I approached this stuff as a key to help me experience things I normally don't experience. Not merely for the experience in and of itself, but rather to experience what my life/personality/self can be like. With the intent/hope that I can carry the behaviors I learned during that experience into the rest of my life when the drug isn't there. A long way of saying I want to use it to help me be a better square root of 23.

Then, in the weeks that followed - up until today, in fact - I consciously try to recall how I felt about those people, and how I acted, and how I easily approached them, and thus my behavior has in my normal life has changed, has improved in relation to all people. I am actually changing for the better. Taking that m1 was quite a success for me.
Click to expand...

To what's in bold: What? What's the square root of 23? (Apart from 4.8... I looked it up lol).

The rest: I absolutely agree. MDMA has helped with my social anxiety and what people think of me. Sure, I still have insecurities and sometimes will be a little more timid, but I then try to recall how I'd deal with this situation on Molly and I suddenly start to feel more at eased and happy :)
 
It's like walking on the clouds of heaven and talking to all the other spirits as your best friends. Live. Laugh. Love.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top