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MasterSplinter

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How do we even begin to understand the extent of MDMA induced euphoria? The physical aspect is pure science but the metaphysical aspect has such a profound impact on life.

I think its gotten duller with age, but at the same time maybe not. I want to walk away from every experience with new revelations and optimism towards the future. Its like jumping of a yacht in Jamaica...refreshing. Traveling makes me appreciate Earth more than any material possession...and sometimes if its uncanny, the Universe..

The goal ultimately always has been to feel that way all the time. Of course ecstasy is a short cut, but maintaining an active and fresh lifestyle is essential towards a balanced and wonderful mind. I want to be the ultimate being I can achieve while Im in existence.

Ecstasy is a rare gateway to give us a glimpse of our full potential. Its definitely possible for me to feel that way without it.

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What do you guys think? Spiritual? or Just a drug induced Euphoria?
 
Uhh.
its fun.
Thats why I do it, thats the point to me, nothing more.
What else would it be but drug induced euphoria?
you aint gonna feel like that without drogz. not exactly like tht at least.
 
It all depends on your outlook on life. For some people it's simply drug induced euphoria, for others it's a profound revelation that has an impact on your life even when you're not on it and you're past the honeymoon stage of MDMA use.

Like with most things in life, MDMA is simply a key that can open certain doors. It's up to you to open them and walk through them.

Nothing in life comes easy. And I would say this particularly true of something like "profound happiness". I am highly skeptical that we'll ever invent a magic tonic that "fixes everything". In the end, you need to have the desire and motivation to achieve something. If you don't have them, no drug is going to bring about any kind of long lasting state.

Conclusion: MDMA is what you make of it. It's all in your (metaphorical) hands.
 
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When it comes down to it, the only reason we exist at all is due to chemical reactions. We are more than the sum of our parts The MDMA experience is so much more than the sum of its parts.

It profoundly changed my life for the better. I'd be nowhere near the person I am today if it weren't for these experiences.
 
I don't think it's given me any really great insights into happiness or life in general.

It definitely broke down barriers here in the UK in the 80s and 90s, allowing people who would never normally mix to meet and have a good time together and that positively affected stuff like football hooliganism and high-street after-pub violence. But I think that was a cultural change rather than a personal metaphysical one.

Maybe if you can remember the extreme empathy you get in your daily life then it does some good. But for me, I don't think it's changed me much. I think there are other things that offer a more genuine and lasting happiness, as opposed to euphoria and drug-induced empathy. Those things are friends, children, lovers, families, nature, sports, hobbies, art and so on.

I wouldn't want to feel like that all the time because it's fake. It's a nice fake whilst it lasts but it's not real - its your mind on drugs.
 
maybe it's because i didn't try it until i was older and had already experienced a lot of other drugs, but MDMA wasn't that profound for me. it was a really nice experience, and it's definitely one of my favorite drugs, but i just don't get any real insights or revelations aside from feeling really happy and having a nice couple days after. i need more of a psychedelic experience to really feel like i've gotten any insights into life, my mind, the fabric of reality, etc.
 
Everything in our brains is chemical.... It doesn't really mater what you call it; chemical, spiritual - chemistry or epiphany. MDMA has enriched my life, I don't get as stressed (and this year for me would of driven most people to the edge) as I used to, I look forward to every trip to rekindle my love for everything in my life. I'm not depressed, and I enjoy life, but MDMA makes me enjoy it more so... If you get me :)

I've made new best friends, and I'm having the time of my life... Thank you MDMA...
 
Andronicus said:
I don't think it's given me any really great insights into happiness or life in general.

It definitely broke down barriers here in the UK in the 80s and 90s, allowing people who would never normally mix to meet and have a good time together and that positively affected stuff like football hooliganism and high-street after-pub violence. But I think that was a cultural change rather than a personal metaphysical one.

Maybe if you can remember the extreme empathy you get in your daily life then it does some good. But for me, I don't think it's changed me much. I think there are other things that offer a more genuine and lasting happiness, as opposed to euphoria and drug-induced empathy. Those things are friends, children, lovers, families, nature, sports, hobbies, art and so on.

I wouldn't want to feel like that all the time because it's fake. It's a nice fake whilst it lasts but it's not real - its your mind on drugs.
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The connection is only fake if it's not with real friends. The connection I have with 2 of my best friends has grown ridiculously since we started rolling together. I will say, however, when I roll around other people, it does indeed feel very fake. I wake up the next morning thinking "those people were only my friends cause I was on drugs", while my friends I normally roll with are my friends with or without, before, and after drugs.
 
ive mostly tripped solo on mdma,
i call it a trip because "for others it's a profound revelation that has an impact on your life even when you're not on it and you're past the honeymoon stage of MDMA use." exactly :),
it can go pretty deep if you give it a chance,
ive had visuals in a pitch black room,
i love stimulants,
so i know how they feel,
mdma is a psychedelic stimulant,
therefore, you trip somewhat,
now what you get from the trips and how deep you go is up to you.
mdma has really helped me with social issues and trust,
even though i do it mostly alone,
it just leaves you more open to people,
i dont listen to dance music or even happy music per say,
i think melancholy can describe mdma in my experience
because when your up your up, but you know theres a down on the way,
its very sharp, i mean ive never cried or felt sad,
but ive never jumped up and down with joy on it either,

bottom line, you can get alot more out of mdma than happiness,
it anything it shows you how fake happiness is, just one release of said chemical.
 
The goal ultimately always has been to feel that way all the time. Of course ecstasy is a short cut, but maintaining an active and fresh lifestyle is essential towards a balanced and wonderful mind. I want to be the ultimate being I can achieve while Im in existence.

Ecstasy is a rare gateway to give us a glimpse of our full potential. Its definitely possible for me to feel that way without it.
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This is exactly how I feel when taking good MDA or MDMA (pretty rare in Australia unfortunately).

I feel like it really removes all self consciousness and fear of failure or rejection, and as you said really gives us a glimpse of how perfect life can be. Its the same feeling as scoring a great mark on that test that you really stepped up and prepared great for, or finally kissing someone that you adore. These drugs are what have motivated me to get my life back on track, stay healthy and work hard so I can achieve my goals. Hopefully it leads to the same sort of complete contentment that ecstasy gives, but really its a case of "aim for the stars and you'll at least get past the trees."

I also feel that MDA is more spiritual while MDMA makes you feel far closer to other beings, both have something extremely special to tell us about ourselves :)
 
I feel like it really removes all self consciousness and fear of failure or rejection,
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That one of the main reason I still use MDMA, the feeling of being completely yourself, without any hangups, evolutionary BS or any other stupidity. Just you being towards other people. It's so touching. :)
 
I just like the pleasure of it, tis fun, makes musics sound better and just makes you feel at peace and thus good, for me.
 
levictus said:
That one of the main reason I still use MDMA, the feeling of being completely yourself, without any hangups, evolutionary BS or any other stupidity. Just you being towards other people. It's so touching. :)
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I read a study where people under the influence of MDMA actually have trouble differentiating between good and bad body language and facial expression. This can be a good thing as you mentioned where you don't really over evaluate or generally care what some one thinks of you. However it can cause problems when some one is inherently annoyed with you lol
 
before the first time i took ecstasy i was always depressed and self conscious. the first time was like seeing sunlight for the first time in my life. i had never felt so good or alive. and this also continued into my daily life even after it had been months since i rolled. i always have confidence and just actually enjoy life. ecstasy definitely changed my life for the better and i love it. this is coming from someone who has only rolled five times the past year so its not like im addicted or anyhting, but i still love it :)
 
Blanch said:
I read a study where people under the influence of MDMA actually have trouble differentiating between good and bad body language and facial expression. This can be a good thing as you mentioned where you don't really over evaluate or generally care what some one thinks of you. However it can cause problems when some one is inherently annoyed with you lol
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That's why you should only do MDMA with people you trust. :)
 
hell after FINALLY doing it in public (as opposed to at my house or a friend's, i have no intention of NOT using it in public in a certain environment...) i like it much better than not in public.
 
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