Final time shroomin?

[FerreNoctem]

Sup guys,

So I've done em a couple times before but my most recent trip (abt 3g) was lifechangingly epic - I got over a ton of pointless anxieties that had been holding me back for years and I feel I'm a better person after that experience. Do you think that should be a good final time to use shrooms? Could I possibly have more great experiences? I don't want my next trip to spoil the fun.

And has anyone else had such an amazing experience of this fungus that made you not want to do it anymore?

 

[porkstock]

if you feel like you got what you wanted out of them, there's no harm in NOT eating them again.


but it also doesn't mean that you have to not eat them EVER again.

assuming you're young, and barring some tragic incident, you're gonna live for awhile longer... maybe put shrooms / tripping on the shelf for some time, and re-visit a few years down the road if you want to.

there's always something more to learn
not to say that it needs to be through psychedelics though

 

[Flickering]

I know how you feel, after my last acid trip, I feel like going again would ruin it. But the time will come, not too long from now, when I hear the call of another psychedelic.

As for acid, I'm sure there are good times ahead, but not for another year or so.

Go with your instincts.

 

[freedstar]

As long as you keep in mind you might never be able to have another trip like the one you mentioned I think your good to do whatever you feel like

 

[RobotRipping]

I've had plenty of those types of trips, the feeling wears off. I need a good reminder every few months lol. I find mushrooms so fun, even if I got everything I needed out of them, they are my friends and I want to enjoy spending time with my friends for the rest of my life. Sometimes I find that I'm just repeating the same experience over and over again but even so it's still worthwhile IMO. When I start to feel terrible about life and all the negative aspects of it, a solid trip will usually bring things back into perspective for me, then life will drag me down and i will rinse and repeat until death.

 

[huolesoh]

some people seem to need it more then others (for example those with more psychological complexes and those with strong intellectual curiosity)

psychedelics are difficult to abuse, because they can really bite you in the ass if you're not careful and teach you some harsh 'slap-in-the-fucking-face' lessons.

a friend said to me recently, "i had the best trip of my life and didn't wanna trip again to ruin it! anyway i tripped again and it just wasn't as good, and now i don't care so much about acid"

and from personal experience, as a rule of thumb, i say: trip when you feel like it, and don't trip when you don't feel like it !

 

[JackARoe]

This really is an excellent question as I asked that to myself about 30 years ago. I had one soul cleansing trip and didn't want to ruin that with another experience. I use to think you are only as good as your last gig. I have since changed my mind and learned I am the sum total of all exeriences, no one experience can invalidate another experience. The one cleansing experience can never fully disappear because of a more challenging one. They build on each other. Needless to say I did go back, many times and never regretted any experience. As some people have said the rougher ones may teach more, or bring up issues that need to be dealt with. So a frightening or challenging trip is as important. I did however take breaks when the last one I had was inspiring, just not forever.

 

[acidclouds]

Very impressed by everyone in this thread. So many people use psychedelics irresponsibly and the more I do them the more I think they should be used very infrequently. Each to his/her own but staying up for days on psychedelic binges just cant be good for your mind

 

[kingme]

i think there was a quote somewhere in relation to psychedelic use: after you get the message, hang up the phone.

so its sort of what you decide. i know this feeling well, that of feeeling completly content and happy with an expereince and afraid a lesser one might spoil it. but in the end, JackARoe really spoke my mind too.
If you are happy with where you are, and feel no need for psychedelics, then you should be happy about it and enjoy

 

[Vader]

^Alan Watts

 

[kingme]

thanks! (i actually remembered watts' name, but not his first name. im horrible with such things)

 

[skibler]

In my experience with this sorta thing, shrooms sort of find me. Every time I have tripped on them they have changed how I looked at certain situations going on in my life. I guess I have yet to have that ultimate experience that will make me feel like I dont want to do them again.

 

[Ismene]

^Alan Watts

Alan Watts did drink himself to death so bear that in mind before you take his advice too seriously. Whatever "message" he thought he'd got clearly wasn't the right one.

 

[huolesoh]

yes, well said, it is often a good idea to objectively analyse peoples' lives before eating their words!

 

[Vader]

Hey, I just attributed the quotation, no beef here Issy.

 

[Ismene]

Yeah I'm with you Vadar, it's just something I always like to mention when anyone says that quote. That the guy who said it ended up downing a bottle of whiskey a day while his kids begged him to want to live and he said "There's nothing worth living for". Casts a different light on his psychedelic theories.

You feel me?

 

[Solipsis]

It's good if you feel that you cannot gain that much more from a trip in the sense that that would mean it has been very worthwhile. But if you don't trip for a while after that it is possible that the new life experiences that stack up give you a whole new frame of reference that put you back in a position where it can be worthwhile again.

So, no problem if you never trip again but don't mind if I take it with a grain of salt. Time can do a lot of things, in a while you might feel different.
Not that it means you "need" to trip again in a while, but people who say never to loudly just sound to me like they feel strongly about something right now.

It's different if there was anything very bad about ever tripping again, like it is bad for an alcoholic to drink again some time.

 

[DwayneHoover]

Alan Watts did drink himself to death so bear that in mind before you take his advice too seriously. Whatever "message" he thought he'd got clearly wasn't the right one.

Why do you despise Alan Watts so much? Every time he is mentioned you drag this out to bash him with. You have some sick obsession.

Watts wrote some brilliant things that helped alot of people. Take them for what they are. The man's personal illnesses are not a reflection on the value of his writings... so he had an illness, a propensity for addiction to alcohol which has been proven to have a strong genetic component. And alot of people may have really good ideas in theory but then have difficulty applying them to their own lives... the latter does not necessarily "disprove" the value of the ideas, just that the individual who had them had trouble following through. So what?

 

[huolesoh]

it is getting a bit off topic... but anyways

he appears somewhat wise, but his eyebrows imply some inner rage

he had an illness, a propensity for addiction to alcohol which has been proven to have a strong genetic component.

well i think sometimes people can be all too quick to blame anything else and not take responsibility for themselves; what im trying to say is although alcoholism could be genetically predisposed, i think the problem is often strongly psychological, and i think shulgin would say the same

 

[DwayneHoover]

...he appears somewhat wise, but his eyebrows imply some inner rage ... although alcoholism could be genetically predisposed

Wow that's an awful lot to determine from a photo of someone. What are you a psychic or fortune teller? LOL.

And FYI a physical genetically-based severe attraction to alcohol and a tendency to become addicted to it IS A WELL KNOWN AND FIRMLY ESTABLISHED MEDICAL FACT, no "could be" about it.

Ismene simply disagrees with some of Watts' ideas. So he imagines he is "disproving" them by trudgeoning Watts' personality with some bigoted, ignorant, inhumane, unscientific insults about the nature of alcoholism.

Spreading venal lies and distortions about a medical affliction affecting many millions... in order to make "discussion points" on the internet... pretty geeky, not in a good way.