I NUK3D U
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Luckily (or not!), the tolerance drops as quickly as it escalates.
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MDPV Megathread 7: ektamine, we all approve and miss you
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jlcb24
Bluelighter
Good to know. Looks like a T-break is in my near future.
MDPV_Psychosis
Bluelighter
thats the strange part for me. usually I notice rapidly increasing tolerance to all effects except for paranoia. usually the longer I use the more sensitive I become to paranoia until even the smallest whisp of peevee smoke will send me into full on delusions (I binge heavily). that's the point when i usually quit or flush.
but this time I'm taking rip after rip and no paranoia. I experienced paranoia and all the usual symptoms at the beginning of this run but by the second day its like I'm using to be normal. . every once in awhile I'll sense a little weirdness but it never takes off. in fact, taking a hit of mdpv makes me normal....
oh jeesus I just realize what this means. I'm so tolerant/addicted that I need mdpv to maintain myself. I mean I realized that already but the full scope of it just settled in. guess it really is time to quit. wonder how long I'll sleep for...
but this time I'm taking rip after rip and no paranoia. I experienced paranoia and all the usual symptoms at the beginning of this run but by the second day its like I'm using to be normal. . every once in awhile I'll sense a little weirdness but it never takes off. in fact, taking a hit of mdpv makes me normal....
oh jeesus I just realize what this means. I'm so tolerant/addicted that I need mdpv to maintain myself. I mean I realized that already but the full scope of it just settled in. guess it really is time to quit. wonder how long I'll sleep for...
Rusted Chains
Bluelighter
We all know you're not gonna quit 'til the bags empty...that's ok though. Absolutely fabulous that your moment of realization came as you wrote your post...yes, you have become "that guy." I'm sure Luke Skywalker felt the same way when he finally realized that Vader is his father.
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
Get used to the Rip van Winkle recovery period - last time I stopped I slept for 18 hours most days for over a week. It starts to get a tad annoying when you start watching a tv prog/movie only to wake up a bit later to a completely different one!
PS smoking peevee is probably the best way to bring on the paranoia - seen it happen in others far too many times
Esp when you didn't know you had a sister...
I had a strange experience with peevee just recently. I ordered a gram, my first ever try by the way, and I LOVE LOVE LOVED it!! and stupidly went through half a gram the first night. Had a couple of weeks break and ordered a second gram from the same source, first go I smoked a bit and much the same, second go got a rush and then my belly felt upset every time I smoked it, I also was yawning on it after 1.5 hours and asleep at my normal hour. This happened every time I tried it, did fuck all but give me a stomach upset that would last all day, like I could have threw up. Anyone else ever experience this?
I NUK3D U
Bluelighter
^ What method did you use to smoke it?
I NUK3D U
Bluelighter
^ not necessarily.
There are various decomposition products, and if I get the heating right (or wrong, depending on what you're after) I can find it quite sedating.
There are various decomposition products, and if I get the heating right (or wrong, depending on what you're after) I can find it quite sedating.
Off foil and the same technique every time, I even got a funny belly eating it so not sure what it could be but it put me off doing any more.
Mate I tried fucking hard lol, Ive read the horror stories of people losing it on 30-40mgs so I started off with 5-10 and within 3 hours I was smoking 40-50mgs at a time, I just loved the rush and hornyness. The belly upset also came with the added bonus of having no hornyness on top. Felt like someone had swapped my favorite toy with a dud
Peevee virgin (no more)
MDPV first came to my notice a couple of years ago, and after reading all the reports here I decided it was too hard core for me and didn't try it, I embraced 4-mmc instead. Flash forward to a couple of weeks ago and curiosity gets the better of me so I order 1g of MDPV. The first hit of 6mg insufflated was OK, nothing too dramatic and it felt similar to MPA, physically and mentally. I noted a desire to redose after a couple of hours and that was pretty much it. On one occasion I had a bump just before a phone call and felt rather like Spud in the interview scene from Trainspotting! I couldn't stop talking but I felt completely in control of my train of thought. Another time the weirdest thing happened the morning after I'd had a couple of bumps the night before. I had so much energy when I got up I went and wallpapered our bathroom, a job that I have put off for over three years and bearing in mind that I have only ever done once before in my life. I spent seven hours non-stop ripping off the old paper and hanging new stuff. At times I thought to myself 'this is manic I'm just going to crash' but I didn't. Additionally, the job was done perfectly, my partner was amazed (and suspected I'd been taking something). Over the next couple of weeks I probably took an average of a 10 to 12 mg a day, which means a few days nothing and a couple of days three or four hits. Although a lot of the later hits were eye-balled I know from before and after weighing of the pack that my total consumption was around 250mg in 14 days, and on three occasions I was sharing it with my partner. I mention this because I don't feel this level of use to be excessive. I've never taken a single hit of more than 15 mg and MDPV seems more of a functional stim to me, I've only got anything like euphoria once and that was after smoking some hash and taking a goodnight etizolam.
However I have noticed a few things recently which I attribute to the MDPV but I hope more experienced users can comment on. One is that I feel extremely tired in the mornings, regardless of what time I get to sleep and this is usually after six or seven hours solid sleep, I really don't want to get out of bed. I'm usually OK after a coffee or two. Another thing is a craving around 3.00 pm for an afternoon livener which I usually succumb to. Should I lay off for a while?
MDPV first came to my notice a couple of years ago, and after reading all the reports here I decided it was too hard core for me and didn't try it, I embraced 4-mmc instead. Flash forward to a couple of weeks ago and curiosity gets the better of me so I order 1g of MDPV. The first hit of 6mg insufflated was OK, nothing too dramatic and it felt similar to MPA, physically and mentally. I noted a desire to redose after a couple of hours and that was pretty much it. On one occasion I had a bump just before a phone call and felt rather like Spud in the interview scene from Trainspotting! I couldn't stop talking but I felt completely in control of my train of thought. Another time the weirdest thing happened the morning after I'd had a couple of bumps the night before. I had so much energy when I got up I went and wallpapered our bathroom, a job that I have put off for over three years and bearing in mind that I have only ever done once before in my life. I spent seven hours non-stop ripping off the old paper and hanging new stuff. At times I thought to myself 'this is manic I'm just going to crash' but I didn't. Additionally, the job was done perfectly, my partner was amazed (and suspected I'd been taking something). Over the next couple of weeks I probably took an average of a 10 to 12 mg a day, which means a few days nothing and a couple of days three or four hits. Although a lot of the later hits were eye-balled I know from before and after weighing of the pack that my total consumption was around 250mg in 14 days, and on three occasions I was sharing it with my partner. I mention this because I don't feel this level of use to be excessive. I've never taken a single hit of more than 15 mg and MDPV seems more of a functional stim to me, I've only got anything like euphoria once and that was after smoking some hash and taking a goodnight etizolam.
However I have noticed a few things recently which I attribute to the MDPV but I hope more experienced users can comment on. One is that I feel extremely tired in the mornings, regardless of what time I get to sleep and this is usually after six or seven hours solid sleep, I really don't want to get out of bed. I'm usually OK after a coffee or two. Another thing is a craving around 3.00 pm for an afternoon livener which I usually succumb to. Should I lay off for a while?
FlippingTop
Bluelighter
yes, no point setting yourself up for psychological dependence. Take a couple weeks break and then see how you go 
Mailmonkey
Bluelighter
^yeah, it IS only psycholoical though, if I've got peev, I'll do it, all day every day, not megadosing, still doing my daily business etc, but I can't help doing it...
If I ain't got it, I'll miss it for a couple of days, then not be bothered at all.
Till a couple weeks later when I get some more in 8(
If I ain't got it, I'll miss it for a couple of days, then not be bothered at all.
Till a couple weeks later when I get some more in 8(
MDPV_Psychosis
Bluelighter
I got some new pv in two days ago and I am happy to say I finally received real mdpv. last three purchases were something mdpv like but definetly not pure mdpv.
Tolerance is playing a part as we mentioned earlier but this confirms there is a batch going around that is either mdpv cut with another substance or even another substance altogether. it only took two hits off of foil and the usual paranoia hit me like a ton of bricks. I smoked more and all the usual mdpv effects were there in full force. no doubt in my mind that there is something different between them.
So now I'm curious what this fake mdpv actually is.
Tolerance is playing a part as we mentioned earlier but this confirms there is a batch going around that is either mdpv cut with another substance or even another substance altogether. it only took two hits off of foil and the usual paranoia hit me like a ton of bricks. I smoked more and all the usual mdpv effects were there in full force. no doubt in my mind that there is something different between them.
So now I'm curious what this fake mdpv actually is.
pedaltopedal, reading the last few pages of this thread and your comments, i can totally relate to your past and present PV experiences, quite scary how similar they are actually!
Anyway, is this 'fake' batch that you speak of a very,very light tanish colour, definitely not the usual white colour, with some little PV balls/rocks through it?
Dang, I spend yesterday with a G of Methylone (not that the second 500mg did much -.-) and was actually planning to properly sleep and eat before giving PV a go today. That Plan flew out of the window after 3 hours of restlessly lying in bed. >.>
New Plan is to stop PV by noon so I can sleep the next night :D
Can't find the post now but somewhere here is one where some chem guy, who seems to know his shit, explains that you can't vaporise PV salt and always burn it. He also said that the vaporisable (is that a proper word?
) Freebase is some sort of oil and therefore the original tan was not freebase and all these methods that float around that turn the white into tan don't produce freebase.
I dunno if it's true but i use the same pipe for it as for AMT. And with that I can get different looking Vapor and smoke. PV always seems to produce smoke and when I try to heat it from further away like I'm doing with AMT vapor nothing happens.
Well, I got massive health Paranoia from Oral and snorting with no euphoria whatsoever. That's why I switched to smoking which is actually enjoyable and where I get Paranoia only on binges. BTW with all stims it's always the "omg I'm dying" Paranoia, I never get the "Fuck I'm being watched" Paranoia.
New Plan is to stop PV by noon so I can sleep the next night :D
Can't find the post now but somewhere here is one where some chem guy, who seems to know his shit, explains that you can't vaporise PV salt and always burn it. He also said that the vaporisable (is that a proper word?
) Freebase is some sort of oil and therefore the original tan was not freebase and all these methods that float around that turn the white into tan don't produce freebase. I dunno if it's true but i use the same pipe for it as for AMT. And with that I can get different looking Vapor and smoke. PV always seems to produce smoke and when I try to heat it from further away like I'm doing with AMT vapor nothing happens.
Well, I got massive health Paranoia from Oral and snorting with no euphoria whatsoever. That's why I switched to smoking which is actually enjoyable and where I get Paranoia only on binges. BTW with all stims it's always the "omg I'm dying" Paranoia, I never get the "Fuck I'm being watched" Paranoia.
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It is now three weeks since I got my first bag of mdpv and I have just pulled my first all nighter on it. Funny how it creeps up on you. The odd thing about it is that unlike other stims where I feel physically tired and end up going to bed although I know that I probably won't sleep, with mdpv I was completely unaware of the passage of time. One minute it was midnight (when I took the last of several bumps) then it was getting light and I still felt alert and focused. I went to bed at 8.00 am but didn't sleep so got up an hour later. I had taken three etizolam during the course of the night but they did nothing other than take the edge off of the PV. Today I have actually felt less edgy than when I have taken less PV the previous day and slept, maybe due to the etizolam.
It is now three weeks since I got my first bag of mdpv and I have just pulled my first all nighter on it. Funny how it creeps up on you. The odd thing about it is that unlike other stims where I feel physically tired and end up going to bed although I know that I probably won't sleep, with mdpv I was completely unaware of the passage of time. One minute it was midnight (when I took the last of several bumps) then it was getting light and I still felt alert and focused. I went to bed at 8.00 am but didn't sleep so got up an hour later. I had taken three etizolam during the course of the night but they did nothing other than take the edge off of the PV. Today I have actually felt less edgy than when I have taken less PV the previous day and slept, maybe due to the etizolam.
That's an odd one for PV. I don't find the heart rate increase significant enough to setup the "i'm dying" fear. Just so you know for your next try with PV... We've been dying since we left childhood so I wouldn't worry too much. I'd rather have the they're watching me paranoia though since that at least has potential for some silly stories. The paranoia I eventually get can't really be categorized too easily since it's fairly broad in its approach. I've yet to let the paranoia have me do something that affects me after the session.
I'm surprised Cocaine is the only stimulant that has been a catalyst for an uncalled for fight due to paranoia that I can think of. Doesn't seem to happen with any other stimulants as far as I'm aware? I'm not someone who fights so it's unlikely I'd hit anyone but for some it's their immediate reaction to thinking someone is talking about them or taking advantage.
I'm surprised Cocaine is the only stimulant that has been a catalyst for an uncalled for fight due to paranoia that I can think of. Doesn't seem to happen with any other stimulants as far as I'm aware? I'm not someone who fights so it's unlikely I'd hit anyone but for some it's their immediate reaction to thinking someone is talking about them or taking advantage.
Ben So Furry
Bluelighter
Dammit, what is it with this stuff. Points of view: why oh why oh why can I not show some damn restraint. Why am I coughing up bloody lumps then have a line? Don't answer I know because I'm an idiot. Thanks. What the fuck am I too do? I love and hate this stuff soo much. I'm overdramitic to the point of being dead then bang another line. Whoosh jibber jibber, fingers falling off and I stink. Fuck it I'm off for another line. Bing, then decide.
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