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Possible massive overdose on 2c-p

my appologies was a fucked up nite, read it wrong, this is what they give darwin awards too
 
llamer said:
for the record, the OP should have gotten off his (her?) stupid Land of Lincoln ass and walked the one block to this friend's house and handled the situation themselves. The internet is not a: 1) Doorbell; 2) Ambulance; 3) Friend's house
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Or maybe their friend should have listened to them in the first place and not done such a stupid thing? Maybe this will be a valuable lesson in personable responsibility for OP's friend.

I'm sorry guy, I know you were probably just trying to help but coming on here and asking this question is better than just doing nothing or saying nothing. I would just like to encourage you to try and express your message in a way that's less condescending and creates a more welcoming environment. It would really suck if someone didn't post something because they thought that someone might come back and tell them they're stupid.
 
Thank you for all your help guys, I found him the day before yesterday, and he is alive and well. He was still high when i found him -facepalm- But not hurt at all. I would have told you guys this sooner, but I got caught up at work.
 
I weighed the bag filled with the 2c-p prior to this and from memory i recall the scale read .5g. after this, (plus my dose and my other friends dose), it read .4g My friend and i did about 10mg each, so friend B did ~80mg
 
I rang the bell til his parents came out and asked to see him immediately, they checked his room and he wasnt there. Apparently they thought he left; he "slept" (how do you sleep on this?!) in the basement.
 
Doc Hydramine said:
I rang the bell til his parents came out and asked to see him immediately, they checked his room and he wasnt there. Apparently they thought he left; he "slept" (how do you sleep on this?!) in the basement.
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One time I took way too much 4-AcO-DMT (albeit a very different psych), and even though I thought I had died at one point, and then felt like I was going to be fucked up forever and could hardly remember who or what I was, there was an instinctive thought in the back of my head that said "you just need to stop thinking and fall the fuck asleep." I feel asleep quickly and woke up completely sober. Any normal trip would have left me so stimulated that I would lay in bed for hours trying to get to sleep. I think there's something instinctive that just tells you that being unconscious is the only way out of this. Of course that might not be possible on every psychedelic though.
 
Doc Hydramine said:
I rang the bell til his parents came out and asked to see him immediately, they checked his room and he wasnt there. Apparently they thought he left; he "slept" (how do you sleep on this?!) in the basement.
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glad your buddy was ok. i thought he might not have been capable of leaving the house. I don't imagine he was asleep, but probably eyes closed & immobilized in a wholly immersive experience.. Has he said anything about the experience? I'd be curious as to what that was like.

And milligram scales are definitely required equipment for dealing with things such as 2c-p. You can find them easily online & they aren't terribly expensive. For things as potent as 2c-p it would be wise to weigh out a larger amount (the cheap scales aren't terribly accurate in the single digit mg range) and then dissolve it in a water & ethanol mixture (vodka will work fine, or a mix of isopropyl alcohol & water) & use volumetric measurement. See the Big & Dandy Liquid Measurement Thread for more info.

Be safe!
 
any major dude said:
glad your buddy was ok. i thought he might not have been capable of leaving the house. I don't imagine he was asleep, but probably eyes closed & immobilized in a wholly immersive experience.. Has he said anything about the experience? I'd be curious as to what that was like.

And milligram scales are definitely required equipment for dealing with things such as 2c-p. You can find them easily online & they aren't terribly expensive. For things as potent as 2c-p it would be wise to weigh out a larger amount (the cheap scales aren't terribly accurate in the single digit mg range) and then dissolve it in a water & ethanol mixture (vodka will work fine, or a mix of isopropyl alcohol & water) & use volumetric measurement. See the Big & Dandy Liquid Measurement Thread for more info.

Be safe!
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Weighing something with a less than 0.01 dosage on a scale capable of only 0.1 is monolithically stupid and probably the most worrying thing ITT. I'd rater eyeball (honestly!). I would trust my eyes over what a scale was telling me was "between" 0.001 and 0.100.
 
That ^^^ (Edit: Great my first "That ^^" Post shows up as the first post on the next page. Genius)

The range difference is strikingly dangerous. You wouldn't know if you did 10x more than you wanted. Quite scary, considering the potency slope on a lot of the 2c-x's and other psychedelics - like 2c-i once you hit 20mg, every mg after that increases the trip exponentially at a much steeper rate. So the potential of causing damage is greatly increased.

2c-x's can be relatively safe when properly used and hopefully spaced out by 3-4 months between use if you can. I spaced most of my 2c-i use out by 1-2 months each time over 7 different trips under 23mg each - and still have left over effects. My Serotonin, Dopamine and NorEpinerphrine levels are very apparently increased since the 2c-i period, over 2 years ago. My mental bandwidth: The speed and amount of thoughts I can juggle at once, while still being able hold on to the ideas accurately when having to use them. Like for instance coming up with ideas or things to say while someone else is talking, and storing them all 1 by 1 so when they are done talking I can accurately go over all of the things I wanted to touch on. Previously I would have to interrupt on occasion to make sure I brought up something important - that they reminded me of - now I can store them all in my working memory. Just one of the many positive side effects I got from the 2c-i use.

(Bad side effects and working solution)
However during and at the end of the day I was feeling dopemine/norepinephrine depletion - as if the higher levels during the day were leaving me a little drained towards the end. LUCKILY! 500mg of L-Tyrosine (Dopemine and NorEphinerphrine pre-cursor amino acid) completely fixes any of the negative left over side effects from 2c-I (Try It!). I was getting serotonin syndrome type symptoms almost everyday a year after the 2c-i period. Intense hand tremors, body was becoming stiff and locking up, lots of muscle spasms (myoclonus) and jolts of energy flying through my body. I had overactive reflexes (hyperreflexia) that were mixing with the tremor and made working with my hands a lot harder. Also some intense (ataxia) at times.

However, 500mg of the L-Tyrosine from a vitamin store and I am 100% free of the negative effects , although, I really feel 140% with the (permanent?) extra mental bandwidth. As long as I use the tyrosine to help with extra dopamine and norephinerine production later on in the day - I'm better off than I was before 2c-i. I highly recommend tyrosine to anyone who feels burnt out or after effects from 2c-I, and possible other 2C-x's.

PS: I also take 50mg of DHEA, but I don't know if that is essential to treat the 2c-I burn out.

Stay safe.
 
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Doc Hydramine said:
I weighed the bag filled with the 2c-p prior to this and from memory i recall the scale read .5g. after this, (plus my dose and my other friends dose), it read .4g My friend and i did about 10mg each, so friend B did ~80mg
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...does this qualify as troll logic? :-/
 
3rd_I_blind said:
...does this qualify as troll logic? :-/
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...no? 1000 mg in 1 g. The scale was accurate to decigrams. The difference between .4 (4 decigrams) and .5 (5 decigrams) is 100 milligrams. So if the OP did 10 mg (remembering that the bag began at 5 decigrams, or one-half gram), and another friend did 10 mg, that leaves 80 mg to be accounted for to bring the bag weight fully down from a half gram to .4 grams. That logic seems perfectly sound to me. What is not sound is the use of such a horribly inaccurate scale for such a dose-sensitive chemical -- or for anything beyond weed.
 
Powerup said:
...no? 1000 mg in 1 g. The scale was accurate to decigrams. The difference between .4 (4 decigrams) and .5 (5 decigrams) is 100 milligrams. So if the OP did 10 mg (remembering that the bag began at 5 decigrams, or one-half gram), and another friend did 10 mg, that leaves 80 mg to be accounted for to bring the bag weight fully down from a half gram to .4 grams. That logic seems perfectly sound to me. What is not sound is the use of such a horribly inaccurate scale for such a dose-sensitive chemical -- or for anything beyond weed.
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That makes no sense at all, or at least it is incredibly stupid thinking. If in total you and you're friends tried to weigh out 100mgs on a 0.1g scale and then split it up between three people, how the hell could you accurately guess a dose of 10mg for you, 10mg for another, and then say the rest must of been 80mg? You can't, you might as well just try to guess or eyeball a 10mg bump then weigh it out with that kind of scale. Either way, who uses a 0.1g for something like 2c-p? Irresponsibly dangerous.
 
Powerup said:
The difference between .4 (4 decigrams) and .5 (5 decigrams) is 100 milligrams.
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Is the difference between 400±50 mg and 500±50 mg still 100 mg?
Is it likely you can aptly declare to have taken 10 mg, using only a scale accurate at the 0.1 g level and your common sense (which was probably lacking altogether in this case)?

It could just as well be a difference between 482 mg and 427 mg, which would probably also register as .5 and .4 on this scale.
Restating the point this might qualify as troll logic, since it seems 'perfectly sound' but is actually quite bogus.
 
Tromps said:
That makes no sense at all, or at least it is incredibly stupid thinking. If in total you and you're friends tried to weigh out 100mgs on a 0.1g scale and then split it up between three people, how the hell could you accurately guess a dose of 10mg for you, 10mg for another, and then say the rest must of been 80mg? You can't, you might as well just try to guess or eyeball a 10mg bump then weigh it out with that kind of scale. Either way, who uses a 0.1g for something like 2c-p? Irresponsibly dangerous.
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Eyeballing > 0.1 g crappy made-in-China scale, imvho.
 
You couldn't accurately measure 10 mg or any other amount, to be sure. I thought 3rd eye was questioning the math, not how the math was performed. My bad. If its any excuse I'm coming up rather hard. No hard feelings boys.
 
sorry for my being vague, it was indeed a milligram scale; i'm just accustomed to dropping unnecessary zero's in math class. our 10mg mg doses were triple checked, each.

It's not top of the line, but it is very reliable in our experiences with it.
came with weights to calibrate it with and everything.
 
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