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Help IDing a compound?

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TheLeftIsRight

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This compound was sold as "laboratory grade" or "synthetically produced" psilocybin. My first reaction was that it would most likely be an RC, probably 4-AcO-DMT or 2-Cx or anything else that a dealer might assume would be more marketable under the guise of a more classical chemical and which might be confusable with the effects of another tryptamine... But I still wanted to give it a shot because I've had little luck finding such substances around here and, hearing that a comfortably strong dose would be "two capsules" I decided to proceed cautiously and give it a shot.

What I got was 2 tiny half-black and half-white unmarked capsules. I was skeptical and worried that he might've simply ground up a fraction of a gram of mushroom and scheisted me out of a lot of money, but upon opening one up I was pleasantly surprised. In the capsule was a small amount (filling only about the rounded tip of the cap) of crystalline white powder. It clung to the sides of the inside, coating it pretty finely, but I removed a sample easily. Deciding that- whatever the substance- if one cap was (presumably) safe and having been recommended 2 caps as a dose, starting small would be a safe approach, I ingested a dab... Probably a square millimeter (VERY little depth, I wouldn't call it a pile so much as a smidgen) of this, which tasted bitter, but not in the sharp way that mdma is bitter. It was more of a dull, bad, chemical taste... But nothing that I couldn't quickly wash down with apple juice.

About 40 minutes later I started getting a surprisingly strong (considering my low dose) feeling of what I'd describe as tryptamine-clarity. It was my first experience with psychedelics in nearly a year, and I always stress about being prepared to embark on a trip until it first hits me and I remember that I'm generally flooded with euphoria and wonderment and, at low doses, not nearly as emotionally volatile as I expect myself to become. My eyes dilated greatly indoors, but were still very reactive to light and looked normal in the sun. I felt very much like a dose of 1g, give or take, of mushrooms. I had many flashbacks to childhood, reduced social anxiety, a feeling of being an inextricable part of a greater whole, and the ability to focus enough to get everything I needed to done on a tight schedule and be on-time and attentive for all my classes (which is really better than I do without drugs!) I think my most dose-sensitive sensory effect is visuals, of which I experienced none more descript than an "alteration" of my vision in general... That said, based on the effects I got, I'd expect a full trip on one or two of those capsules and have not had any adverse reaction except that my legs are aching, but that's probably because I had to climb about 10 flights of stairs during my day of classes, which is no doubt exacerbated by coming down. By 11:30 I felt virtually baselined and redosed with about 2/3 of the original dose, just because I plan on abstaining for about a week before I try a bigger dose.

I greatly enjoyed the effects of this mystery chemical, but even so, it makes me uncomfortable to take anything that I can't identify, so the question is this.

Does anyone have any insight as to what this stuff could be? I've never taken a 2c-x, but from what I've heard those would take longer to kick in and be more stimulating.

Has anyone heard of this pure, crystalline, psilocybin/psilocin? Could it actually be what he said it was? Would the quantity I took match the expected effects of extracted or synthetic psilocybin?

Whatever this is, it's strong. And with few side effects. And no mushroom nausea, at least at that dose! I wish I knew where it came from!
Thanks BL, I owe ya!
 
If it's any help, I just looked at it under a microscope (I fuckin love looking at my drugs under microscopes xD) and it is, in fact, not white, but clear, oblong, crystals. They're generally about twice to three times as long as they are wide, but with a lot of room for variance.. And at 400x they look pretty close to cylindrical, but the closer I go the more I'm realizing that they are all different shapes...

But definitely clearish. It reminds me of quartz crystals. Maybe I'll rail a little as an experiment next week.
 
4-Ho-Dipt is a possibiility that I wouldn't write off... But I was listening to music at the peak and didn't get any audible alterations. I just mostly connected with the content and forms of the music in a way that I might not have otherwise. It was music I was into years ago so it brought back a lot of memories too. Lol I'd forgotten why I used to be so enthused with psychedelic culture.
 
probably 4-aco-dmt. it's similar to mushrooms in effects and is often called "synthetic mushrooms"
it's also becoming popular somewhat lately

but it could be a random tryptamine too

but i might not be right, and no one that replies to this thread could be, and that's why this kind of thread doesn't work too well. accidentally spreading misinfomation can do more bad then good!

glad your trip went well though :D
 
Thanks all,
and yeah, I know that by very nature this is a pretty weak type of thread... But I'm thinking there are a lot of people on here who've probably taken Capsules with tiny amounts of crystalline powder in them and hearing that any of those effected them similarly would definitely narrow it down, because I know very little about research chems other than DOB (which I'm quite certain it's not). lol
Any other educated guesses?
 
I'd assume a 4-aco or 4-ho tryptamine,
People sell them around here as "psilocybin powder"
because people wont typically buy things they don't know of, especially if it's random numbers and letters (in thier eyes at least)
Personally I enjoy knowing what it is, not only for safety reasons, but so I can recollect on every drug I do, basically check it off the list.



Also I'm not sure this sort of thread is allowed? I may be wrong though as at least you made it somewhat professional.
 
Also I'm not sure this sort of thread is allowed? I may be wrong though as at least you made it somewhat professional.
it's not, for this reason:
but i might not be right, and no one that replies to this thread could be, and that's why this kind of thread doesn't work too well. accidentally spreading misinfomation can do more bad then good!
 
Sorry but no ID threads. You can get some reagents to test your sample at Dancesafe, or any number of other places that could easily be found though. Like stated above there's no way anyone can ID a substance over the internet, you really need some expensive analytical equipment to know for sure (some services like energy control & ecstasy data do this, for a price), but reagents can at least give you a good idea & rule out some things. I will say it is unlikely to be psilocybin though, as it is generally a low-yielding synthesis & somewhat dangerous to produce. Also mushroom extractions don't really make fiscal sense for dealers & they are inefficient & messy.
 
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