Methylone

[Bsiren]

If its high quality, despite the dose being a little higher I like it way more.....

So much easier on the body, I have seriously come down harder from a bit too much caffeine.

I actually agree- I prefer it for partying/raving more, it's more mixable with other substances (weed, alcohol, psychedelics) ime.

I would never support the industry that tries to pass bk-MDMA off as legit MDMA by pressing it into pokeballs/pills- not only will you spend more than you should, but you're supporting the distribution of pills sold as something they are not. Though bk-MDMA is pleasant and far more similar to MDMA than any of the other common adulterants, I'm against supporting the manufacturing and distribution of inauthentic pills, no matter what they are made out of.

 

[jamaica0535]

I actually agree- I prefer it for partying/raving more, it's more mixable with other substances (weed, alcohol, psychedelics) ime.

I would never support the industry that tries to pass bk-MDMA off as legit MDMA by pressing it into pokeballs/pills- not only will you spend more than you should, but you're supporting the distribution of pills sold as something they are not. Though bk-MDMA is pleasant and far more similar to MDMA than any of the other common adulterants, I'm against supporting the manufacturing and distribution of inauthentic pills, no matter what they are made out of.

I would feel far better about pills pressed with bk-MDMA over 95% of what actually ends up in them.

That being said, I haven't touched a pressed pill in so very long. Its going to be a generalisation but its only the hip hop crowd that eats presses, everyone else does mdma or m1 of notable purity. Its been this way for a while, and im kind of glad it is this way.

The only nice thing about presses is that they are what they are, you can't add or subtract contents. Its not cut-table unless the person pressing is the one cutting it. I hugely respect that despite it being loose powder and crystal people around here dont try and cut to make more money.

 

[I NUK3D U]

Hate it personally, but a lot of regular drug users I know like it. I can never really get past what I perceive to be disproportionate neurotoxic clashes whilst on it. That and the residual stimulation lasts for ever.

 

[jamaica0535]

Hate it personally, but a lot of regular drug users I know like it. I can never really get past what I perceive to be disproportionate neurotoxic clashes whilst on it. That and the residual stimulation lasts for ever.

Ever tested a sample of what you get? Marquis should go bright yellow almost instantly.

The methylone I eat is about as pure as it gets, and very clean. Stimulant wise, its in the neighbourhood of caffeine in terms of stimulation and comedown which is next to nothing. Most people like the fact that they can go out and party all night then feel fine the next day, that bit less "lovey" quality is more than a fair tradeoff. There are times when I reasonably shouldn't be on MDMA at a party, it makes me get kind of out of hand for that level of public. It has all the warm physical sensations and quite a lot of the euphoria, don't underestimate it as being weak as shit because its a hell of a drug. 200mg of methylone will have someone's eyes fluttering while they rub their face talking about how hard they are rolling.

We know of a subject that consumed 2 grams at once in a stupid suicide attempt, still alive.

It seems like clusters of people that don't like it, I think part of it has to do with vendors sending out a bunch of mephedrone as methylone or some mixture. Everything people complain about reeks of meph, while subjective experience and that of so many others is that it is very easy on the body and brain. MDMA comedown is like getting hit with a car at 50mph. bk-mdma is like getting clipped by a guy on a bicycle.

 

[I NUK3D U]

Ever tested a sample of what you get? Marquis should go bright yellow almost instantly.

The methylone I eat is about as pure as it gets, and very clean. Stimulant wise, its in the neighbourhood of caffeine in terms of stimulation and comedown which is next to nothing. Most people like the fact that they can go out and party all night then feel fine the next day, that bit less "lovey" quality is more than a fair tradeoff. There are times when I reasonably shouldn't be on MDMA at a party, it makes me get kind of out of hand for that level of public. It has all the warm physical sensations and quite a lot of the euphoria, don't underestimate it as being weak as shit because its a hell of a drug. 200mg of methylone will have someone's eyes fluttering while they rub their face talking about how hard they are rolling.

We know of a subject that consumed 2 grams at once in a stupid suicide attempt, still alive.

It seems like clusters of people that don't like it, I think part of it has to do with vendors sending out a bunch of mephedrone as methylone or some mixture. Everything people complain about reeks of meph, while subjective experience and that of so many others is that it is very easy on the body and brain. MDMA comedown is like getting hit with a car at 50mph. bk-mdma is like getting clipped by a guy on a bicycle.

I think it's subjective. I've had both good and bad synths of methylone. I'm not saying I don't enjoy the high, but personally, I find it clashy and over-stimulating on the come down.

Just my experience, but I think saying it's definitely one or the other for all users is a little naive.

 

[jamaica0535]

I think it's subjective. I've had both good and bad synths of methylone. I'm not saying I don't enjoy the high, but personally, I find it clashy and over-stimulating on the come down.

Just my experience, but I think saying it's definitely one or the other for all users is a little naive.

You very much have a point. I only bring up the adulterated chemical thing because a friend had one batch that definitely was not methylone despite its purchase as such. Tachycardia for like 8 hours in me, a sort of rolling sensation. Friends reported rolling for 8 hours, but having tried it this was not methylone.

It would only take like 10 pounds put out by an overseas lab labled as methylone to account for the extremely low amounts of people who respond by not liking it. A medium size amount, just enough to get enough people who were sold something else as methylone to make a noticeable statement about it on the internet, erowid, and places like this. If it were crazy toxic and killed people it would make the news, but otherwise its just going to be thrown into the market and get distributed like the rest of it without anyone batting an eye.

 

[I NUK3D U]

There is a slight distinction between long term neurotoxicity and general toxicity leading to instant death.

My friends are split roughly equally between those who like it and those who don't. And this is after sampling a ton of different batches from different suppliers.

What I have noticed is that it's a drug that leads to extremes of opinion. Those who like it, love it. Those who don't, seem to hate it.

I don't buy the adulteration argument though; sorry. Just think some people are perhaps more sensitive to certain pyschoactive effects.

 

[Utahrd]

My opinion of methylone is that it's over stimulating, not euphoric enough, too ego-centric, more likely to promote promiscuity (overall horniness), more likely to promote aggression, and doesn't really heighten my 5-6 senses (which is something I enjoy with MDMA original). What's more is that every time I've ever seen it, it's being sold as MDMA, ecstasy. I ask "what is it?" they say "I think it's MDMA!" I say, "is it methylone or BK-MDMA?" they say "whats methylone?" It's aight, but it should not be misrepresented as a different chemical, and it should be sold at an appropriate price.

 

[adillonm15]

I've been "methyl-owned" 3 times now, and personally I can't stand the stuff.

I get a very quick, about 20 minute onset (MDMA takes me an hour), and start feeling a really good come up andlike I'm gonna roll really hard. I get excited and talkative with this feeling fir about 20 more minutes, the I just turn completely bipolar.

I'll feel really good and energetic for 5 minutes, then I'll be depressed feeling and untalkative for 20 minutes, feeling detached from everyone around me.

I'm extremely close to my girlfriend, but I even felt detached from her, like it was our first time seeing each other.

Then it'll go back to the good feeling for 5 minutes, the shitty for 20, and all I want to do is go home and Kay down in my bed. When I finally do, I fall asleep after a few hours and wake up feeling depressed, but relieved that it's over.

Yeah, I'll take MDMA please.

 

[frontbluntt]

In no spirit of harm reduction whatsoever: buy methylone and mephedrone and eat them together. Better than MDMA in my opinion (and much easier on your body)

 

[jamaica0535]

Considering pure methylone compare MDMA in general response.

The dose is a little higher, the duration a little shorter. It hits faster than MDMA and its more of a build than the 10 minute rapid peak of MDMA.
The difference between them is that it lacks the "lovey" nature of MDMA, all the positive hedonistic potential is there but your not all "OMG I LOVE YOU ALL!!!". I feel that quite often it is not a good thing for me to be like that in very public situations....

The upside to methylone is that at least in a pure form it has very little comedown, even if taken to excess. MDMA even a moderate amount always made me feel it the next day. Personally though, I consider myself empathetic enough to not really need more of it from a drug.... but I still like them. It doesn't have the oxytocin push, but there is a time and a place for everything. Going out to a club and being social.... wonderful for that. If im going to feel shitty the next day to week for taking MDMA, im going to enjoy the time getting there with someone I love. On methylone I dont feel shitty the next day at the cost of losing a little bit of the empathy component of the experience, and im ok with that.

 

[2c-goinsane]

haha methyl-owned thats funny, me aswel guy later told me it was methylone, im not a big fan of the stuff feels like im coming up the whole time, it is less of a comedown than mdma but i dont go up high enough to go through how i feel afterwards with methylone, some excellent cocaine is far better choice imo

 

[jamaica0535]

haha methyl-owned thats funny, me aswel guy later told me it was methylone, im not a big fan of the stuff feels like im coming up the whole time, it is less of a comedown than mdma but i dont go up high enough to go through how i feel afterwards with methylone, some excellent cocaine is far better choice imo

Never been a big fan of cocaine, its too self centric, I just feel peppy and want to fuck. And I really dont feel like paying to feel like that.

If you keep taking methylone, the effects on dopamine and adrenalin start to overpower serotonin and it basically becomes cocaine. Or at least displays most of the typical nature of it. Even taken that far though, I have always felt better the next day with M1 than I ever have with coke.

On that note, OP try to obtain pure M1 if your going to do it, too many other random research chems, MDPV for instance does some terrible things to people. I have seen that one first hand, terrible nasty drug. Bath Salts have given methylone a bad reputation, but it is a perfectly viable recreational option that has an action that doesn't leave you with a hangover the next day. Trust me, I saw 6 normally platonic friends in a hot tub with a mouth on them or their mouth on someone else, you can get very very high on methylone. So very many crazy nights and deep productive conversations, looking back on it, we did quite a bunch of it... but we did grow a lot emotionally closer to each other, a lot more open and accepting. Really got to know the people I consider friends.

Now if we had treated cocaine similarly... I dont think it would have gone the same way in terms of all of us keeping our lives together. I have just seen people get way too out of hand.

 

[Addyman]

140-210mg of Vyvanse made me feel like I was on a moderate Roll

Not joking

 

[jamaica0535]

140-210mg of Vyvanse made me feel like I was on a moderate Roll

Not joking

Have you ever tried regular instant reslease adderal? Vyvanse is basically the dextroamphetamine molecule bound to an amino acid that gets cleaved off in an acidic enviroment and then it becomes bioactive. Its a way to make it not abusable by snorting or plugging.

If you want to do a slight science experiment, throw some in a bit of lemon juice and heat gently for a short time, make lemonade. the onset should be much more rapid and likely more intense.

 

[Addyman]

Have you ever tried regular instant reslease adderal? Vyvanse is basically the dextroamphetamine molecule bound to an amino acid that gets cleaved off in an acidic enviroment and then it becomes bioactive. Its a way to make it not abusable by snorting or plugging.

If you want to do a slight science experiment, throw some in a bit of lemon juice and heat gently for a short time, make lemonade. the onset should be much more rapid and likely more intense.

For some reason Adderall IR its me like PURE meth (dip the meth in acetone)

Vyvanse hits me like Ecstasy

Dexedrine I've yet to try once...

I know exactly what each one is/does
But... I dunno of Levoamphet is why Addy hits me like speed
or the lack of.. Tolerance to vyvanse?? (which makes no sense)

I just know Adderall XR orally (if enough) hits me like speed
Adderall IR same thing, just 1/2 the dose

Vyvanse, Feels like 5mg Adderall IR (but ecstasy?) or every 20mg Vyvanse
Lasts 14hrs tho... so like 5mg dosed every 4 hrs? jeez