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MarkoPolo

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As a little experiment for myself, i decided to do an acetone wash on half a pill.

After stiring for maybe 2 or 3 minutes i filtered out and dryed what i thought was relatively pure mdma (i ended up with maybe half of what i originaly had)

however after tasting a tiny bit on my tounge i got no taste what so ever of mdma, it had a very grainy feel consistency, and the doughy smell of my original pill was gone.

I made it up into 2 lines anyhow and snorted them in quick succession, i presume it must have been about 25 - 35 mg

after waiting 10 minutes nothing happened, i got a tiny mdma sensation but im thinking that was just a placebo.

I doubt there was anything wrong with the acetone, since i got it from my chemistry lab... so what went wrong? Any clues?
 
i dont know much about "washing" pills/making mdma but i don't think you can just stir acetone with a pill and end up with a "pure" product.
 
tom landers said:
i dont know much about "washing" pills/making mdma but i don't think you can just stir acetone with a pill and end up with a "pure" product.
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well the way it works is, mdma is insoluble in acetone, whereas most of the crap used to cut it is. So by dissolving a finely chopped up pill in acetone you should (theoretically :P) end up with mdma <90% pure... theres a thread somewhere on bl i think about it.....
 
Your mdma was left in the filter if you did it right. In a lot of ways, it was what should have been making up the particulate.

Dissolve in water first next time, filter, evap, then wash that.

Solvent washes are damn useful, but its important to know the properties of the solvents your working with, especially when some of them have to be next to anhydrous or at least as dry as possible. And when i mean dry acetone, its still very much a liquid, its just a reference to the amount of water that the solvent has in it.
 
Also, just had a thought to mention it but if you just sorta stole that from your chem lab, please dont do it again.

Its just sort of the point of that type of environment being intended for learning, not your 5 finger discount chemistry supply shop. Teachers find it hard to teach when everyone yanks the scales or bottles of solvents. Be careful with what you fuck with, if you looked through the cabinet and found some ether you would probably be excited and not even bother to think about how fucking dangerous ether is. Air, light, and evaporating ether = scary sorts of explosive peroxides can form centred around a bunch of quickly evaporating extremely volatile solvent. The gas movement within a seemingly "empty" bottle can create a spark that turns the bottle into a bomb that just exploded in your hand.


Can of acetone at the hardware store is not expensive, and neither is epsom salt. These 2 things will work better than the acetone you had. Most acetone has a good bit of water in it, even if you cant tell its there.

Im just pulling this out of my ass but I would think that MDMA dissolves into water into the hundreds of mg per ml. If your acetone had even a couple drops of water in it, the mdma would carry with that for the most part, especially if you swirled it around for 2-3 minutes, that isn't necessary.

In places with high humidity, with the tiny amount of drugs in a pill, even dry acetone could pull enough moisture from the air to screw up the process....

As a tip, put a filter in a funnel, stuff you want to wash on the filter, and basically pour the acetone through it into a pyrex dish (acetone eats a lot of plastics).

And another thing I remembered about the whole starting this process using water... use cold water, and you won't need a lot. Think like crush up 10 into a small seal-able bottle, add cold water. Shake vigorously, and maybe even give it time to dissolve everything away from the binders into the water while it sits in the refrigerator. Evaporate.

It would depend on what sort of binders they are using but just doing that should get rid of most of the starch used as binder.

You could look into Acid/Base extractions as well. Learn properties of polar and nonpolar solvents, they act very differently but they are always much more reliable when they are anhydrous. The same ideas to get DMT out of a cactus can get MDMA out of a pressed pill.
 
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jamaica0535 said:
Also, just had a thought to mention it but if you just sorta stole that from your chem lab, please dont do it again.

Its just sort of the point of that type of environment being intended for learning, not your 5 finger discount chemistry supply shop. Teachers find it hard to teach when everyone yanks the scales or bottles of solvents. Be careful with what you fuck with, if you looked through the cabinet and found some ether you would probably be excited and not even bother to think about how fucking dangerous ether is. Air, light, and evaporating ether = scary sorts of explosive peroxides can form centred around a bunch of quickly evaporating extremely volatile solvent. The gas movement within a seemingly "empty" bottle can create a spark that turns the bottle into a bomb that just exploded in your hand.


Can of acetone at the hardware store is not expensive, and neither is epsom salt. These 2 things will work better than the acetone you had. Most acetone has a good bit of water in it, even if you cant tell its there.

Im just pulling this out of my ass but I would think that MDMA dissolves into water into the hundreds of mg per ml. If your acetone had even a couple drops of water in it, the mdma would carry with that for the most part, especially if you swirled it around for 2-3 minutes, that isn't necessary.

In places with high humidity, with the tiny amount of drugs in a pill, even dry acetone could pull enough moisture from the air to screw up the process....

As a tip, put a filter in a funnel, stuff you want to wash on the filter, and basically pour the acetone through it into a pyrex dish (acetone eats a lot of plastics).

And another thing I remembered about the whole starting this process using water... use cold water, and you won't need a lot. Think like crush up 10 into a small seal-able bottle, add cold water. Shake vigorously, and maybe even give it time to dissolve everything away from the binders into the water while it sits in the refrigerator. Evaporate.

It would depend on what sort of binders they are using but just doing that should get rid of most of the starch used as binder.

You could look into Acid/Base extractions as well. Learn properties of polar and nonpolar solvents, they act very differently but they are always much more reliable when they are anhydrous. The same ideas to get DMT out of a cactus can get MDMA out of a pressed pill.
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my pills were lab tested at 100 - 120 mg clean mdma. i was left with next to zero mdma so i suppose the acetone did contain water...

i didnt actually think of that.

and as regards to all the chems... chill out man!! :P i know what im at, im not an idiot. lol. anyways its the only thing ive ever taken and i really dont think anyone gives a crap.

btw i kept the acetone i used, i only used maybe 20ml for the little bit i had, if i let the acetone/water evaporate would it leave the mdma behind??
 
it was most certainly the water in the acetone that cause you to get very little product back. if you bought acetone from wallmart or (incert bog box store name here) then it was for sure not dry. I would evaping what you got left pver from you wash should get you your stuff back.
 
^^ it was from a chem lab but it still contained water id say.

i did actually poure the solution onto a porcelain plate and let it evaporate a few hours ago, and i ended up with something, but it was so little i didnt bother keeping it! .... probably about 40mg.
 
MarkoPolo said:
my pills were lab tested at 100 - 120 mg clean mdma. i was left with next to zero mdma so i suppose the acetone did contain water...

i didnt actually think of that.

and as regards to all the chems... chill out man!! :P i know what im at, im not an idiot. lol. anyways its the only thing ive ever taken and i really dont think anyone gives a crap.

btw i kept the acetone i used, i only used maybe 20ml for the little bit i had, if i let the acetone/water evaporate would it leave the mdma behind??
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Its the point of the matter more than any amount of giving a fuck, dont steal from your school. An education is one of the best things you will ever be given, the least you could do is show a faction of the amount of appreciation deserved by not stealing.

Reasonably though, if you really care about a part of half of a pill, by all means go for it. But half a pill isn't worth the acetone prep. In a sense, its good if it sits for a few days after salting.
 
At least have enough respect to not tell us info like that on this site. Stealing is frowned upon, no one wants to hear about it.
 
i really doubt that on a site like this, people are gonna be too worried about 20ml of acetone being taken....

but thats off the point,

thanks anyhow for the info jamaica0535 i appreciate it!
 
MarkoPolo said:
i really doubt that on a site like this, people are gonna be too worried about 20ml of acetone being taken....

but thats off the point,

thanks anyhow for the info jamaica0535 i appreciate it!
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On a site like this, people will agree with my opinion about stealing from your school. In the past, ive seen threads like this closed because this board isn't about chemistry. Its about harm reduction and education.

Thanks rollnpeace, nothing better to prove a point than when a mod agrees.
 
MY moonrock woudlnt disolve at all in acetone from Lo's. But water will do the trick? id love to lace some kush etc...

so waht are you recommending the carrier be? h2o?
 
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