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Could Marijuana be used as an antidepressant?

Fyasko.

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Just as the title says: do you think that Marijuana could be used as an antidepressant?

Ive noticed that after the initial high is over, i seem to appreciate stuff alot more/have a better overall mood.

whatcha think%)
 
I think a lot of people use it in this way. Sure, for some people it may have unwanted effects, but antidepressants that are currently marketed also have unwanted effects, including drastic ones like suicide. If you look at the issue logically, people should be able to use marijuana if it helps them, but alas the laws seem to follow business interest rather than personal interest.

Antidepressants that are approved by the FDA have only a 51% average success rate (2% above placebo) according to the estimates in literature... I have a feeling that cannabis could surpass this easily.
 
I do believe that cannabis can have the desired effects of being an antidepressant, but has to be used in a controlled manner much like the pharmaceuticals taken for this condition. Also one must try to figure out the source of the depression and try non drug oriented paths to try and combat it. You must try your best to live a life you find enjoyable and that requires in the words of a philosopher: friends, being self sufficient and allowing time to self reflect -Epicurus. In the end I think if you have these aspects and cannabis helps then that's awesome, but if the cannabis stops you from achieving one of these (or other aspects you deem important for happiness) then it might not.

For me it cures my depression in the short term but didn't cure the real long lasting problem- (solo high dose psychs helped with that, it was the self reflection I needed and I got it in a very extreme way...it's not for everybody though)
 
I do believe that cannabis can have the desired effects of being an antidepressant, but has to be used in a controlled manner much like the pharmaceuticals taken for this condition. Also one must try to figure out the source of the depression and try non drug oriented paths to try and combat it. You must try your best to live a life you find enjoyable and that requires in the words of a philosopher: friends, being self sufficient and allowing time to self reflect -Epicurus. In the end I think if you have these aspects and cannabis helps then that's awesome, but if the cannabis stops you from achieving one of these (or other aspects you deem important for happiness) then it might not.

For me it cures my depression in the short term but didn't cure the real long lasting problem- (solo high dose psychs helped with that, it was the self reflection I needed and I got it in a very extreme way...it's not for everybody though)

great reply:)
 
Good thread Fyasko! I think marijuana can be used as an antidepressant, depending on the person. I find it a good way to relax and de-stress after a long day, but I don't know if it helps with my mental health issues. I've been smoking pot so long I'd feel super lost without it at this point. I agree with Pegasus, like any other drug it has unwanted effects, and it's unfortunate we can't at least have access to this for a medical purpose. Would be nice to see how people do with this one --- my question would be, how exactly do you regulate this as an antidepressant? The afterglow from it, after daily use, eventually goes away, so I feel like at that point you'd still have issues with using it for such a purpose. I feel like the afterglow would be the beneficial part, not so much the actual being stoned portion of things --- for a lot of people, anxiety and depression tend to go hand in hand, and I feel for some to use it as an antidepressant, they'd still need anti-anxiety meds/benzos to cancel the negative side effects, so it would be just like everything else on the market.
 
Good thread Fyasko!
thanks;)

my question would be, how exactly do you regulate this as an antidepressant? The afterglow from it, after daily use, eventually goes away, so I feel like at that point you'd still have issues with using it for such a purpose. I feel like the afterglow would be the beneficial part, not so much the actual being stoned portion of things --

thats a good point, i feel like they could prescribe it along with like an SSRI or another type of antidepressant. and that the doctor would prescribe a med card, and tell the patient how much he/she should smoke and when to do it. then they gradually raise the amount as tolerance begins to build (as with other antidepressants). and theres no down-side really to smoking more than the recommended dosage.

and about the afterglow, (im new to smoking),
is that what im feeling?
it'll be like 5-6 hours after ive smoked that i notice how much easier life could be.
 
and about the afterglow, (im new to smoking),
is that what im feeling?
it'll be like 5-6 hours after ive smoked that i notice how much easier life could be.

I would say so, yes. Weed has more of an "afterglow" than "comedown" in my opinion and it's super obvious when you're new to smoking.

Papa, I think that would work a lot better for some people than others...I think it would depend on the strain and what your day was really like.


Personally, weed + benzos are all I think I'd need for at least a stable mental health, now weening off of lamotrigene so I guess I'm about to see how well that actually works.
 
I'd say marijuana is a pretty unreliable antidepressant. I'm talking on a population-wide scale here, not individual; just because you find it a reliable antidepressant (which I don't doubt), doesn't make it a good one for most people. On that basis alone, I'd hesitate to prescribe or recommend marijuana to a depressed patient of mine who'd never regularly used it.

One of the most consistently true things that can be said about marijuana's effects is that it renders sensory and emotional experiences more salient, no matter their nature. Therefore, if a depressed person is aggressively seeking lots and lots of comfort-providing settings to ameliorate their depressed mood, I can see how marijuana might fit in well with their coping strategy, giving them more bang for their buck comfort-wise. But I can't see it helping out a depressed person who cannot help facing many unpleasant situations on a daily basis, and needs to handle these situations with relentless motivation and enthusiasm as a matter of survival.

One of the biggest dangers with combining clinical depression with regular marijuana use is that both on their own have been scientifically linked with decreased sociability, which in a downward spiral aggravates both depression and drug use. I can see these two having a non-linear way of potentiating this downward spiral.

If a depressed patient told me marijuana made him feel less depressed, I wouldn't advise him to quit. This drug's effects are highly dependent on not only set and setting, but also what effects the user is expecting. But I would inform him or her, like I would any depressed patient, that physical exercise and quality time spent with people close are the two most reliable treatments for depression known to medicine, and that marijuana may or may not make these treatments easier for them.
 
If a depressed patient told me marijuana made him feel less depressed, I wouldn't advise him to quit. This drug's effects are highly dependent on not only set and setting, but also what effects the user is expecting. But I would inform him or her, like I would any depressed patient, that physical exercise and quality time spent with people close are the two most reliable treatments for depression known to medicine, and that marijuana may or may not make these treatments easier for them.

I could agree with this. It's a YMMV sort of thing, and I think it's still important to emphasize non-drug related treatments anyway, even if the patient is being treated with legal prescription meds. So, marijuana could just be another option, since it seems everything already used is still unreliable in terms of treating depression.
 
my father has bipolar disorder and uses cannabis to balance his moods and it is quite effective in doing so. Since he's been a medical marijuana patient, his quality of life has improved greatly. He doesn't get manic or depressed, just stays somewhere in between. For me, cannabis makes me anxious but greatly improves my mood, if I could constantly get the right strain for me then it would work as the best anti-depressant that I've ever used. Unfortunately without a medical license or resources to grow myself, I can't ensure the consistency I would need for it to be effective.
 
Good post, MDAO. I think the most rational way to approach it would be to leave it up for the individual person to decide if it is right for them. There's really no reason that it has to be strictly a prescribed drug though... Making it so would only be done to appease the puritan folks who think that medicine must not be enjoyed.
 
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I'm dependent on marijuana for not being depressed. And I also use it as an anxiolytic. The line between medical and recreational use is very blurred for me. I smoke both for fun and for relief of depression and anxiety, and sometimes to ease my stomach. Weed has nothing but positive side effects for me except for a bit of mental fog.
 
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Try smoking weed everyday for years, yeah sure the first few it makes life great.

Then comes a time when your sat at home feeling like shit and you smoke a bong thinking yeah this always sorts me out, and boom you still feel like shit. IME anyway. If anything it's caused it for me.

But don't think this is a 'look at what weed did, pity me' story. I'm the retard who smoked all the weed, it's not like buds just flew into my lungs y'know?
 
just take breaks and you will appreciate it's true healing powers! high all day everyday gets tiresome now I just smoke at night and it helps me stay sane :D
 
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