All I have to say about women.

[footscrazy]

If I am honest the reason threads like this piss me off so much is that I find it offensive and disrespectful to myself as a woman. There is an implicit reduction of women in views like this - to things that men need to win, as another obstacle to preventing mens' happiness, as puzzles that men need to fix for their own benefit. Logically I know that views like this stem from a feeling of powerlessness on the man's behalf, but that doesn't stop it from really getting under my skin.

 

[cire113]

lmao this thread has been entertaining... blind guy your funny man ..

anyways

And all you have to do is figure out how to talk to girls. The rest takes care of itself.

And yes, there is a correct and incorrect way to talk to girls.

Really?!? tell me it sounds so simple...

 

[A Blind Guy]

If I am honest the reason threads like this piss me off so much is that I find it offensive and disrespectful to myself as a woman. There is an implicit reduction of women in views like this - to things that men need to win, as another obstacle to preventing mens' happiness, as puzzles that men need to fix for their own benefit. Logically I know that views like this stem from a feeling of powerlessness on the man's behalf, but that doesn't stop it from really getting under my skin.

This approach has done nothing but help me. Besides getting me sex (which is a great stress reliever, no doubt) it also gave me a relationship, one that wouldn't have happened if I didn't know how to handle myself.

And I'm sorry you find this disrespectful to women. I have nothing but respect for women. I just wanted to get them in bed so I could give them orgasms. Is that wrong? Does that sound disrespectful? I don't see myself as a conqueror, more like a servant.

lmao this thread has been entertaining... blind guy your funny man ..

anyways

Really?!? tell me it sounds so simple...

Try confident and funny, if you haven't already.

Honestly I have no idea if you're trolling me right now or not.

 

[Cyc]

Sounds exhausting. I've got a better idea.

How about they put themselves through some neurotic mental exercise to win my attention? Sounds like a better deal.

 

[AndroidsDreamofBTC]

Sounds exhausting. I've got a better idea.

How about they put themselves through some neurotic mental exercise to win my attention? Sounds like a better deal.

LOL, nice one!

my 2 kopecks:

You still got to "play the game" with girls, you just don't have to be a dick about it. All of what A Blind Guy is saying is really true, attractive girls like confident, unique guys that pique their attention.

 

[double ewe]

tl;dr

be confident, strong and successful, but also loving and kind. be good to her, but not at the expense of any of those traits. and spend more time fucking and less time on the internet posting the same warmed over "now i've figured it all out" advice we see every two or three weeks.

 

[Legerity]

I'd rather stay single my entire life than have to go through some superficial bullshit pre-written script to get somebody interested in me.

Why is acting confident so appealing? I don't want to act confident. I'm not confident. Why would I want to be with somebody who actually believes an act that I put on?

So if I act like I don't care, and she gets more interested in me because of that, I'm successful? So basically any girls that didn't get enough attention from their parents can now look for it in me, and I can use that to my advantage to keep them interested? Sounds good! Great way to start a relationship. Solid foundation.

8)

 

[Fawkes]

this is not quality advice for practical, mature adults. if this is what works for you, i can only imagine the sort of women you’re keeping company with.

Don't give them straight answers, talk about other girls around them, and basically act like that one guy you think would get a lot of pussy.

If you act like they don't care, they will wonder why you don't care and pursue you, if you deflect their advances they will keep pursuing you.

the surest and quickest way to turn a woman like me off is if a guy continually talks about other women he’s attracted to in my presence, acts shady and rejects my advances. at that point, i'd “get the hint” since those are clear signals a dude isn’t interested and i'd rather spend my time with someone that was interested and didn’t mind displaying a little vulnerability by letting me know he was into me.

also, your “fingering techniques” might work for some women, but not all women enjoy g-spot stimulation only, me included. how about communicate to the woman you’re with by asking what she likes?

tl;dr

be confident, strong and successful, but also loving and kind. be good to her, but not at the expense of any of those traits. and spend more time fucking and less time on the internet posting the same warmed over "now i've figured it all out" advice we see every two or three weeks.

i'd say this is pretty much it… and, to not measure your self-worth by the pussy you score.

 

[tambourine-man]

I only read the first few lines of the OP, but...

It's a game. that's why they call it game. Gotta learn how to play it.

...continuing from alasdair's point...

I have come to the conclusion that there is one immutable fact about anybody who claims to have 'a game', play 'the game' or, worse still, be 'a player' or uses other synonymic phrases to that effect...

They are, with an almost universal certainty, a complete tit.

I don't have any scientific data to back this up, just tonnes of observational experience that spans the last 15 years.

I can't imagine what it's like to carry around such convoluted strategies for picking up women - particularly when most of them sound like the sort of advice you hear in Grease.

In my experience, most of the women who are worth pursuing can smell such bullshit a mile away.

 

[cire113]

Try confident and funny, if you haven't already.

Honestly I have no idea if you're trolling me right now or not.

No im serious lol... sad i know..

I think the responses from the women in this thread are hilarious lol

 

[maxalfie]

Confidence and a sense of humour are the two key requirements for attracting women.

 

[alasdairm]

threads like this appear in slr once in a while:

- manifesto about how to attract any woman? check.

- lots of vague advice about being a dick but not too much of a dick - just be a bit of a dick and the ladies will swoon? check.

- fake it 'til you make it? check.

- lots of heavy-handed sex advice? check.

- dismal spelling and grammar? check.

seriously, this has been done before. i stand by my point that you don't have to play the game but if you are the kind of guy who loves to play, the bible of this bs is called the game by neil strauss. if you end up with the kind of woman who responds to this nonsense, you'll deserve each other.



alasdair

 

[lola]

Hi OP, the sex bit sounds good, nothing new but I'm glad you're getting your ladies off!

As for the other tips - sometimes when I was younger I used to get a bit fixated with that cheeky but aloof guy who just didn't seem to be interested. Turned out 9 times out of 10 he really wasn't, or he was gay, or he was in love with my friend. So I stopped being so into the guys who weren't into me and started going for the ones who clearly thought I was interesting and found me attractive. Stopped playing games a long time ago because it's a waste of my time, precious time you could be spending flirting properly or having hot sex.

I actually remember being 16 and being chatted up by this older guy in his early 20s who was trying to act all cool and talking about this and that, eventually I said "I know you don't care what I think about politics, so how about we just go to your place?" only told him I was illegal after, haha.

Anyway, as a woman I think the most attractive thing in a man, alongside being comfortable within themselves, is honesty and authenticity. "playing the game" is none of these things, and I wouldn't go for a man who is doing that.

 

[SweetIrony Inc.1]

To be honest, you are getting a lot of shit for what you have written... but the underlying message is correct.

I think most of the people here know that... they are just interpreting it and adding subtleties that make it sound "nefarious."

maybe some are just jealous because they aren't *as successful* as they would like to be. Maybe you are even playing off your success to be greater than it really is.

Who cares. The point is, yes... the characteristics and tactics you described are actually effective in intriguing women. It's an evolutionary thing. Women want confident men because they are protectors and providers. That's why these men are considered "Alpha males."

That's the initial and natural attraction... sexually.

Now, if you want a relationship to actually work, then you need to start imparting honesty, communication, genuineness, etc. The way our society is... I don't generally think those Alpha personalities are all that great in making a relationship work, mainly because they have all the "brawn" but lack the sensitivity and empathy.

So, find the balance, be true to yourself, and really just be yourself.

I still give you props for "understanding" and spelling it out... although I don't think it is a great secret. I don't think it's fair to cast stones at you for trying to be successful at intriguing women. What your intentions are after you have gotten their interest is another story. If you are just using and abusing them, well then I don't condone that.

 

[A Blind Guy]

I'd rather stay single my entire life than have to go through some superficial bullshit pre-written script to get somebody interested in me.

Why is acting confident so appealing? I don't want to act confident. I'm not confident. Why would I want to be with somebody who actually believes an act that I put on?

So if I act like I don't care, and she gets more interested in me because of that, I'm successful? So basically any girls that didn't get enough attention from their parents can now look for it in me, and I can use that to my advantage to keep them interested? Sounds good! Great way to start a relationship. Solid foundation.

8)

Why wouldn't confidence be appealing, and why would you not want to be confident?
Is self-anxiety more attractive than confidence? That doesn't even make sense.
And it's not a pre written bullshit script, you have to do it naturally. What I wrote in the OP was more of a general outline than rules. Like speed limits.

this is not quality advice for practical, mature adults. if this is what works for you, i can only imagine the sort of women you’re keeping company with.



the surest and quickest way to turn a woman like me off is if a guy continually talks about other women he’s attracted to in my presence, acts shady and rejects my advances. at that point, i'd “get the hint” since those are clear signals a dude isn’t interested and i'd rather spend my time with someone that was interested and didn’t mind displaying a little vulnerability by letting me know he was into me.

also, your “fingering techniques” might work for some women, but not all women enjoy g-spot stimulation only, me included. how about communicate to the woman you’re with by asking what she likes?

Every girl I've been with has not questioned my technique. It is also possible to rub the clitoris in this position anyway. I would hope that the girl would tell me what she likes instead of me having to ask. That seems like beating around the bush to me.

i'd say this is pretty much it… and, to not measure your self-worth by the pussy you score.

Who said I measured my self worth in the pussy I score? I also never said to do that. You should measure your self worth based on what you want to get out of life. I want to be strong and fast so I am trying to get strong and fast. I also want to have sex so I'm trying to do that too. How else would you rate your self worth? By the things you don't accomplish?

I only read the first few lines of the OP, but...

...continuing from alasdair's point...

I have come to the conclusion that there is one immutable fact about anybody who claims to have 'a game', play 'the game' or, worse still, be 'a player' or uses other synonymic phrases to that effect...

They are, with an almost universal certainty, a complete tit.

I don't have any scientific data to back this up, just tonnes of observational experience that spans the last 15 years.

I can't imagine what it's like to carry around such convoluted strategies for picking up women - particularly when most of them sound like the sort of advice you hear in Grease.

In my experience, most of the women who are worth pursuing can smell such bullshit a mile away.

Lol convoluted strategies. You're giving the human race far too much credit, friend. We aren't as smart as you think we are. If you can classically condition it, it is stupid. We can easily be classically conditioned and manipulated psychologically. Look at the media, the dumb stuff you get convinced to buy, etc. Nobody, regardless of how smart, is above getting duped.
Duped is the wrong word to use when referring to women. Persuaded sounds a lot better, because that's what it is. Through confidence and humor you persuade women to give you a chance. Isn't that what all men want? A chance to do nice things with pretty girls?

No im serious lol... sad i know..

I think the responses from the women in this thread are hilarious lol

lol I agree.

Confidence and a sense of humour are the two key requirements for attracting women.

Yes. Yes they are.

threads like this appear in slr once in a while:

- manifesto about how to attract any woman? check. Because being funny and charismatic is inappropriate to some women.

- lots of vague advice about being a dick but not too much of a dick - just be a bit of a dick and the ladies will swoon? check. Well I mean yeah that is basically what it is. You have to be a bit of a dick but not too much of a dick. That's the balance. It helps.

- fake it 'til you make it? check. Never said you should fake it. Just be more alpha male. Don't feel comfortable doing it? Then don't. I don't see why you're all up in arms about this.

- lots of heavy-handed sex advice? check. Heavy handed, lol. Some girl in this thread who I do not know told me I should give seminars about this. My current girlfriend agrees with her. Just try it.

- dismal spelling and grammar? check. Are you high?

seriously, this has been done before. i stand by my point that you don't have to play the game but if you are the kind of guy who loves to play, the bible of this bs is called the game by neil strauss. if you end up with the kind of woman who responds to this nonsense, you'll deserve each other.



alasdair

The unfortunate thing is that all women are drawn unconsciously to confident, alpha male behavioral patterns. That's why they're called alpha male behavioral patterns. Women like them.

 

[A Blind Guy]

To be honest, you are getting a lot of shit for what you have written... but the underlying message is correct.

I think most of the people here know that... they are just interpreting it and adding subtleties that make it sound "nefarious."

maybe some are just jealous because they aren't *as successful* as they would like to be. Maybe you are even playing off your success to be greater than it really is.

Who cares. The point is, yes... the characteristics and tactics you described are actually effective in intriguing women. It's an evolutionary thing. Women want confident men because they are protectors and providers. That's why these men are considered "Alpha males."

That's the initial and natural attraction... sexually.

Now, if you want a relationship to actually work, then you need to start imparting honesty, communication, genuineness, etc. The way our society is... I don't generally think those Alpha personalities are all that great in making a relationship work, mainly because they have all the "brawn" but lack the sensitivity and empathy.

So, find the balance, be true to yourself, and really just be yourself.

I still give you props for "understanding" and spelling it out... although I don't think it is a great secret. I don't think it's fair to cast stones at you for trying to be successful at intriguing women. What your intentions are after you have gotten their interest is another story. If you are just using and abusing them, well then I don't condone that.

Thank you very much.
The sexual attraction is just to get into bed with them. If you want to have a relationship with that girl then obviously you are going to have to show her who you really are. That's why I also am very honest with as many people as I can be (police officers and parents are not part of this group). So they know who I am, and what my ideas are, what I believe in, etc. And if they get interested in me for those things besides just the sexual attraction I'm presenting then awesome, hopefully I like her for who she is.

And if not then at least I can give her a couple orgasms and send her on her way. Nice little bout of stress relief never hurt anyone, right?

I also haven't even hinted to what my success is.

Before I started employing the tactics I outlined I had sex with 3 girls.
Afterwards, in a span of about a year, I have had sex with 10 more girls. That's not even that big of a number, 13. I've fooled around with a couple more, and my most recent was a girl I've been with for the last 6 months who I had sex with almost every day. I am not saying I'm some ultra pussy hound, but I feel like my ability to attract women is now much higher than it was, and a bit better than the average joe, having seen my friends try and fail in positions I do not think I would have in.

If I can help any guy get into a position to treat a girl like a goddess then I am doing good in this world.

Again, I'm not about "conquering" women. I just want them to give me a chance to show them a good time. I am a servant, not a conquistador.

 

[Renz Envy]

If you're an attractive person with a comforting personality, I find that using your hands to touch her while you're talking always keeps her from considering you a friend.

I always feel physically isolated from a girl when I'm not touching her.

If it bothers her, and she shows a negative reaction, she doesn't like you. Everyone likes being touched by someone they like. This is pretty black and white imo.

 

[A Blind Guy]

If you're an attractive person with a comforting personality, I find that using your hands to touch her while you're talking always keeps her from considering you a friend.

I always feel physically isolated from a girl when I'm not touching her.

If it bothers her, and she shows a negative reaction, she doesn't like you. Everyone likes being touched by someone they like. This is pretty black and white imo.

Yeah the casual ramping up of physical connections makes your intentions clear. That is the reason why most men are friend zoned; they don't make it obvious that they don't want to be a friend. I used to do it alll the tiiiimmmeeee.

 

[Orlando_Doom]

Why didn't you just link http://www.doubleyourdating.com/ instead of writing everything you read there here and sell it as your own realization?

 

[Lysis]

I hate fucking games. If I even smell a hint of stupid fucking games, I ignore text messages/calls. They really annoy me. I'm pretty straight-forward, even if it takes me time to get it out or I need a couple drinks to calm my nerves before I say it. I don't play games, so I expect the same respect.