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Taking the edge off of 2C-I?

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Hello friends! I was wondering what people might recommend to take that speedy edge off of 2C-I and also help minimize any body load (I know there isn't a lot with this drug, but I'm the type that tends to perseverate on any odd body feelings and it affects my enjoyment).

I was originally thinking of taking some hydrocodone with it, but then remembering how opiates will constrict the pupils, I'm thinking it might lessen the intensity of the colors (we are on vacation in Vegas and have a room with a balcony overlooking the city, so it's all about the visuals!)

I have some 2g Xanax bars, but even half of one will knock me out.

Does a little alcohol work, or is that not a good mix with this?

Perhaps just a quarter of the Xanax?

I think weed would make me paranoid (don't happen to have any at the moment anyway).

Or do you think a little hydrocodone would do the trick without affecting things too much? I'm not even sure if 2C-I causes pupil dilation and if the visuals are aided by pupil dilation anyway...does it?

Any tips? thanks!
 
What do you mean by body load? Like nausea/vomiting? My friends combatted that with Tums and it seemed to work fine.
I would suggest weed but the paranoid thing makes it a no go.
 
Reducing your dose a bit, even half a 2mg Xanax tablet is still 1mg alprazolam, which is a considerable dose if you don't have any benzo tolerance. Try a quarter of the pill (0.5mg) and it will take the edge off.
 
I would say just lower your dose, but your visuals will suffer because of it. Drinking alcohol on top of it will only get you incredibly fucked up. Don't get me wrong it was fun, but there was still lots of stimulation.

Honestly I found 18mg to be a lot more stimulating than 35mg.

If you are looking for good visuals try a combo with 2C-I.
 
boiledfruit said:
I would say just lower your dose, but your visuals will suffer because of it. Drinking alcohol on top of it will only get you incredibly fucked up. Don't get me wrong it was fun, but there was still lots of stimulation.

Honestly I found 18mg to be a lot more stimulating than 35mg.

If you are looking for good visuals try a combo with 2C-I.
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Shrooms+2C-I?
 
I find shrooms very stimulating, in a euphoric body high sorta way. So that's major body load right there. Never tried the combo but I'm not really interested in shrooms + anything right now.

I've never tried a 2C + tryptamine combo, but tryptamines on their own (LSD, Mush, 4-AcO-DMT are all i'm experienced with) are really, really chillin'.
When I mixed 2C-E with LSD, more positive effects of the LSD shown through and it was a really great experience.
 
NeighborhoodThreat said:
Reducing your dose a bit, even half a 2mg Xanax tablet is still 1mg alprazolam, which is a considerable dose if you don't have any benzo tolerance. Try a quarter of the pill (0.5mg) and it will take the edge off.
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Thanks, yes, I have zero benzo tolerance, so that might just work for me; I wasn't sure whether a quarter pill would even be active or not, but for me it might.

I can't really lower my 2c-i dosage or I won't get any effects at all; we are extreme newbies to psychs and we just need to have a crutch to lean on as we become more familiar. I'll try nothing at first and go from there, with a touch of xanax if needed. Thanks again!
 
I'd say either lower your dose or take either benadryl or something similar to alleviate any body load/stomach discomfort.. I personally never had this problem with 2c-i, but but occasionally get it with 2c-e. Taking a single benadryl 20-30 minutes before I dose the 2c-e seems to do the trick and I've never had any additional problems.
 
shrooms for me felt fine. I think i might combine it with 2C-I if it really is that awesome.

actually might do this thursday with my lady. that will be a fun day.
 
If muscle tension is your primary issue, I've found a comparatively low dose of Soma to work wonders (as in eliminate muscle tension without coloring the trip).

ebola
 
Go ahead and dose a quarter of a xanax bar right as you dose the 2ci. My first 2c was 2ce and i just had it recently, i dosed the quarter with it and the body load and uncomfortable come up mostly went away. It did make the trip a little less intense but who cares, at least you are enjoying it more. Also after a couple of hours that quarter will fade away and you will notice the trip getting back on to full intensity, trust me it is something to consider.
 
alcohol (not too much) works great to combat the stimulation of 2c-i. I also found 4-aco-dmt takes the edge off too, it's a fantastic combo!! Don't dose too high though, it's a pretty intense combo as well.
 
boiledfruit said:
I find shrooms very stimulating, in a euphoric body high sorta way. So that's major body load right there. Never tried the combo but I'm not really interested in shrooms + anything right now.

I've never tried a 2C + tryptamine combo, but tryptamines on their own (LSD, Mush, 4-AcO-DMT are all i'm experienced with) are really, really chillin'.
When I mixed 2C-E with LSD, more positive effects of the LSD shown through and it was a really great experience.
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Agreed. I love tryptamine + 2C combo, shrooms/4-AcO-DMT make the trip fun and pleasant while the 2C provides visuals and intense psychidelic experience. And LSD is an ergoline, not a tryptamine. 2C-E + LSD is also fucking awesome, some of the most amazing visuals of my life.

Regarding your original question: .5mg alprazolam should do the trick, it'll make you more relaxed and might lessen the psychidelic experience a little bit but at least the visuals won't suffer much and you honestly will probably have more fun bc you'll be more relaxed
 
F1n1shed said:
Go ahead and dose a quarter of a xanax bar right as you dose the 2ci. My first 2c was 2ce and i just had it recently, i dosed the quarter with it and the body load and uncomfortable come up mostly went away. It did make the trip a little less intense but who cares, at least you are enjoying it more. Also after a couple of hours that quarter will fade away and you will notice the trip getting back on to full intensity, trust me it is something to consider.
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Thanks, that's a good idea.

I also like the Soma idea that Ebola suggested, because it is primarily muscle tension. (I should have mentioned that we plug it, so it's not a stomach issue).

Specifically, because of the visual effects of psychs, sometimes my eyes try to focus differently or something and I end up getting like muscle cramps in my eyes. I had it really bad the first time I did San Pedro. It was like a pain in my head that I couldn't escape whether my eyes were open or closed and I started to panic and it ended up being a very very uncomfortable time, despite all the beauty at the beginning. :(

Unfortunately, I'm on vacation so I don't have access to any Soma, so it looks like just small amounts of xanax and if that doesn't work, maybe just some sips of alcohol too to calm the nerves as the last poster suggested (making sure I stay hydrated, of course).

Just in the name of Science(!), I will probably start out with nothing and keep notes of what I feel and when. I started keeping journals of my experiences with other drugs so I definitely need to do it with psychs, especially since I do them so infrequently I forget exactly what the amounts and results were.
 
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Whenever I go to festivals and I'm doing lots of drugs over multiple days, I like to use weed food to ease the impact on my body. If you don't consume marijuana regularly, I wouldn't take this advice, but if you have a fairly big tolerance to weed, then a moderate dose of weed-edibles are fantastic for lessening the body load associated with some psychedelics. And if you're a little crazier, then *little* bumps of ketamine are also a fun and relaxing addition to any trip. I find ketamine has a nice effect on my muscles when I am tripping. Or I just don't' notice my body at all after indulging in a little K.

Be warned though, mixing K with psychedelics realllly isn't going to "take the edge off" for most people, it'll probably just make things a lot more intense....I likes it though !!!!
 
A little alcohol (beer is good because of the calming properties of Hops), a little weed definitely. I would say NO to the 1/4 bar of xanax. ANY amount of benzodizepenes is going to "turn down" all trip effects.

In general I'd say you are on a fool's quest... the stimulating nature of 2C-I and other phenethylamines are part and parcel to what they are doing that creates the hallucinogenic effects. It's a basic property of the phen molecular core (amphetamine, ephedrine, synephrine, etc are ALL phenethylamines too, just without the side chains that makes 2C drugs pschedelic). In order to truly reduce the stimulating effects you would have to reduce the binding of the core phenethylamine part of the molecule, but if you do that you are also necessarily reducing the binding of the entire thing including side-chains, and thus reducing psychedelic effects. Sorry, that's just the way things are. Its like asking "Hey is there any way I can ride a roller coaster without going real fast? I enjoy going up and down and in loop-de-loops but I dont like traveling over 10mph." ;) If you get the one, you get the other. Perhaps select a different 2C like I think 2C-C or 2C-D that are known to have less stimulating effects (I guess the side chains bind to the receptors that create their psychedelic effects also tend to simultaneously block the phen core binding to the receptors that cause stimulation... but I am sure there is no way to "trick out" the 2C-I molecule so that it still has 2C-I's unique visual effects but significantly lower stimulation, sorry. Try the beer+weed (just a bit) or select a different drug.
 
I've tried kava kava, and while it may have take the edge of slightly, it wasn't enough. 3 hours in I decided it was enough so I took 1mg clonazepam and it helped a bit, but there was some residual stimulation and the body load was still uncomfortable. I've only tried 2c-I twice and at 15mg both times, but the annoying overstimulation, nausea, and the inability to control body temperature almost killed the positive mood enhancing properties of this phen for me. 2c-e was interesting, a lot more deep, but much more pronounced body load. I figure I have a high sensitivity to the 2c's since the physical effects always seem to get in the way of my enjoyment of the desirable mental and visual effects. I've always had much better results from tryps.
 
You can't really cancel out negative physical effects using psychoactive drugs without dulling other portions of the experience IMO. I'd say be on an empty stomach and smoke a nice kush indica if things start to feel to tense. Otherwise I would suggest preparing oneself mentally for any negative effects, be prepared to meditate or calm yourself down in any other way you find useful during your trip.

Have fun.
 
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