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New RCs in the UK Ver. 4: Still disappointed?

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knockando said:
What makes you so sure it was MAOI activity that caused the results you experienced?
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Well, I have been using 4-FA since 2008 and I have been doing in extensively, from taking small doses daily at the office as an ADD self-medication, to making 300 mgs capsules and bouncing off the walls. I don't know how many times I took it but I definately know how it interacts with my body.

Yesterday after a dose which was less than half what I normally take, I was having an extremely emphatogenic experience, like there was much more serotonin flowing around than usual, I mean no bullshit it really felt like my first E, I was loved up beyond belief.

Also I had massive pupils, usually I don't get that much pupil dilation from 4-FA alone, even with much bigger doses, increased high blood pressure and heart rate, and for a few hours I also had visuals, which is something I have never experienced with 4-FA, I mean I was seeing patterns on the wall.

I mean it definately felt like there was something potentiating the 4-FA, in a way it was similar, yet more intense, to when I used to take Rhodiola Rhosea daily and sometimes I dosed both 4-FA and 4-Ho-MET while on it and got extremely stronger results, which were caused by the Rhodiola's MAOI activty.

On on occasion after taking 600 mgs of Rhodiola extract in the morning, at night I took around 15 mgs of 4-HO-MET, which is half my usual dose and I tripped out for over 10 hours and the visuals were out of this world, it was a much stronger experience than what I usually get with twice as much material, not only it was much more intense but the duration was extended as well, which is the same I felt yesterday, I mean it just never came down, usually 4-FA doesn't last that long on me, but yesterday I was still a gurning mess at night, more than 12 hours after my last dose.
 
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It definitely does sound potentiated and maybe it was MAOI activity, guess all i'm saying is maybe it was something else too!

Need to eat some Psycotria Viridis while on AMT and settle it...
 
knockando said:
It definitely does sound potentiated and maybe it was MAOI activity, guess all i'm saying is maybe it was something else too!

Need to eat some Psycotria Viridis while on AMT and settle it...
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I don't think it's strong enough a MAOI to activate oral doses of DMT, plenty enough to boost serotonergic drugs though. Also I think the fact I've been doing it daily for ten days did affect, the experience maybe with repeated daily doses the MAOI inhibition is more pronounced. I don't know.

I know B. caapi and syrian rue, after a good 24 hours do affect the strenght of an MDMA experience, but not to the same extent I experienced yesterday, perhaps AMT is weaker but longer lasting as a MAOI.

All I know is from now on I will leave at least 48 hours, perhaps even longer before taking anything that could be enhanced by a MAOI, I dread to think what could have happened had I taken a normal dose of 2C-E
 
any legal dissociative anesthetics about??

pretty much as above tbh, i love K, cant get hold of MXE cant even get K atm so its led me to start a quest to find a replacment!
obviously it is hard to find a source for anything like that thats not legal, so this is whats brought me to find a legal alternative that i can source online...
open to any trips that are legal :)
 
iv seen a few sites online but all seem expensive AND tbh... i dont trust them 'dressed' up sites too much, iv always done trading through darker corners of the net through encrypted email n stuff...
 
F&B says that aMT has about the same MAOI activity as amphetamine. Which, if true, would not explain why you got such a strong effect. Can't really argue with what you're saying, though. It makes sense.
 
Did a gram of recrystalised camfetamine over the last week. Its nice. Not amazing. Just a nice clean stim.
Mostly bombed cos snorting was both painful & blocked the nasal passages.
Also goes very well with MDAI & 4-FA.
 
I don't know why people are bothering with all these sub standard straight up stims really.

4-FA is actually class, but the likes of camfetamine, a-ppp, 4-mec etc are all a waste of money really. Better getting speed or pills surely?

PS not meaning to look down on drugs but I see some of these RC's as poison lol.
 
Adventurousness? Poor connections for illegal drugs? A wish to stay within the law or provide a clean sample? Concern over the adulterants in illicit drugs? Reluctance to hobnob with sketchy drug dealers?

There are that many possible reasons and probably a few more besides. How did you come to try the substances you refer to as a 'waste of money'? Chances are the motivation behind other people doing so is similar.

Alright, there may be potentially harmful and untested compounds doing the rounds but to label all the 'RCs' (and I hate that term purely because it's a semantic bear-trap) as poison is probably a little extreme.

No doubt a lot of them are rubbish though. ;)
 
SamhainGrim said:
No doubt a lot of them are rubbish though. ;)
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I would be inclined to say the vast majority are rubbish. with the exception of a few psychadelic rcs and cannabinoids. The ones being marketed in the UK are extremely average/shit. certainly not worth my time or money. but as Sam said it is nice to know you're not breaking the law.
 
Yes Sam, I tried 4-MEC after the meph phase thinking it was 4-MMC. I now know through reading it was 4-MEC. The only other ones I tried were methylone, MDPV and MXE. All of which are alright but there are far better alternatives to each one of those really.

I quite fancy a bash at 6-APB just because mates enjoyed it and it's said to be slightly trippy. For what all these things cost though I'd rather just get some illegals. MXE is pretty good if you don't overdo it, which is not hard to do.
 
fluffybudzz said:
I would be inclined to say the vast majority are rubbish. with the exception of a few psychadelic rcs and cannabinoids. The ones being marketed in the UK are extremely average/shit. certainly not worth my time or money. but as Sam said it is nice to know you're not breaking the law.
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I strongly disagree, the ones you get from those big UK-based commercial sites you find with a two minute Google search might be rubbish, true, but the RC scene is wider and older than that, there are literally dozens of tryptamines and phenetylamines, which are amazing substances, tons of great stimulants as well.

I'd say the trash compounds are the small minority, they just seem more prevalent because of the way they're being marketed.

Some of those RCs for me beat most illegals though, MXE and 4-FA are probably two of my favourite substances.
 
Is 4-FA any good as a "getting things done" type of drug? Like normal amphetamine where you can take a dab and clean the house from top to bottom?
 
I've still not tried 4-FA or MXE, but both of them seem interesting, unlike some of the other substances discussed in this thread. That's of course highly personal and subjective though.

I really should sample MXE soon. I've put it off for way too long. As for 4-FA, maybe it's not the best idea right now given my penchant for abusing speed whenever I have some.
 
I've only tried 4-FA at a 50mg dose, didn't get much out of it, but then again it was supposed to be a "night off" and I only took it because I was knackered before I went to the pub.

I like MXE at low doses (20-25mg) but anything higher than that and it seems to just make everything confusing. That said, I've only ever taken it at home watching TV or listening to music so maybe its not the right setting for higher doses.
 
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