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Make oxytocin

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hee guy ,i was wondering if its possible to make a oxytocin nasal spray with oxytocin powder.
the oxytocin powder im planning to buy is on this site :link removed: (or maybe a other one)
Im planning to mix this powder with some bacteriostatic water, is that a good idea? or how you guys would do it?

And some of you know oxytocin does not cross the BBB in significant quantities , but with the analogue Way-267,464 it does.
So is it smart to buy this analogue and mix it up in the oxytocin spray?
thanks
 
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WAY-267,464 is an agonist at the oxytocin receptor so you really wouldn't need to add it to the oxytocin solution -- it would most likely be sufficient to just use the WAY-267,464 by itself, depending on the intended application.
 
Roger&Me said:
WAY-267,464 is an agonist at the oxytocin receptor so you really wouldn't need to add it to the oxytocin solution -- it would most likely be sufficient to just use the WAY-267,464 by itself, depending on the intended application.
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How you mean use by itself , just only buy the molecule? maybe an idea is to buy an oxytocin receptor
 
Jan said:
How you mean use by itself , just only buy the molecule? maybe an idea is to buy an oxytocin receptor
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Surely you can't be serious...

He was saying there's no reason to add oxytocin to the WAY-267,464 solution.

As far as buying an oxytocin receptor... good luck.

Is this really ADD material?
 
Qnick said:
Surely you can't be serious...

He was saying there's no reason to add oxytocin to the WAY-267,464 solution.

As far as buying an oxytocin receptor... good luck.

Is this really ADD material?
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I would appreciate if you act nicer to me.
So maybe i can buyWAY 267464,but where they sell it its only 10 mg, is that enough , but i heard its a big molecule or something
 
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Jan said:
I would appreciate if you act nicer to me.
So maybe i can buyWAY 267464,but where they sell it its only 10 mg, is that enough , but i heard its a big molecule or something
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I'm really not trying to be mean, but you're posting in an advanced discussion thread and seem to not know what a receptor is.

Oxytocin binds to oxytocin receptors in your body, eliciting the response that is responsible for oxytocin's effects. WAY267464 is a chemical that, like oxytocin, binds to this specific type of receptor.

As far as if its "enough", the question is enough for what? What sort of response are you expecting from activating your oxytocin receptors? Cervical contractions?

Oxytocin is certainly no opiate, I have no experience but I strongly doubt it could even be considered recreational, if that is your intention.


Like I said, I'm not trying to be mean, but you have to help yourself if you want people to help you, people cant answer questions that make no sense.
 
Qnick said:
I'm really not trying to be mean, but you're posting in an advanced discussion thread and seem to not know what a receptor is.

Oxytocin binds to oxytocin receptors in your body, eliciting the response that is responsible for oxytocin's effects. WAY267464 is a chemical that, like oxytocin, binds to this specific type of receptor.

As far as if its "enough", the question is enough for what? What sort of response are you expecting from activating your oxytocin receptors? Cervical contractions?

Oxytocin is certainly no opiate, I have no experience but I strongly doubt it could even be considered recreational, if that is your intention.


Like I said, I'm not trying to be mean, but you have to help yourself if you want people to help you, people cant answer questions that make no sense.
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yes thats true, and im sorry if I ask questions the wrong way, but i am from Holland so my english is not very well. And on the wiki page about WAY267464 I thought you must mix it or something with oxytocin , so I misunderstood it, must be the language barrier ;)

As far as if its "enough", the question is enough for what? What sort of response are you expecting from activating your oxytocin receptors? Cervical contractions? Yes for my oxytocin receptor to be more open etc. i just want to try it out you know, i only want to if its possbible to use WAY 267464 and how to use it
 
Sturnam said:
I'd be willing to make a trade for some of your serotonin receptors.

And none of those shitty 5-HT2B ones either....
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Deal, you can have the 5-HT2C ones, then I can keep enjoying the effects of MD(M)A =D

Jan, I think nobody knows what doses of that chemical might cause whatever effects.

Edit: It sounds not exactly like oxytocin, either it has additional effects or lacks some effects: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19615387

I can't get the article to see what doses they used, and doses in rats probably don't extrapolate very well to humans.
 
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have sex. vast amounts of oxytocin are produced naturally within your body when you are in love.
 
I assume this is a misguided attempt to get high since oxytocin is produced as part of the MDMA experience, or perhaps the OP is getting oxycontin/oxycodone and oxytocin mixed up. Either way they're going to be dissapointed.
 
Studies have shown intra-nasal oxytocin solution to produce pro-socialization effects in patients with Autism-spectrum disorders. It seems that there are probably non-medical reports on such a use however that could be checked.
 
I had a strong curiosity with the chemical after breaking up with a significant other. Entactogens only work temporarily. From my research I've gotten jack shit, except projects with horny rodents.
 
I think Jan wants to use it to generate feelings of closeness to others (i.e as an empathogen).
There is evidence that mdma can stimulate oxytocin release and it seems quite likely that the oxytocin system is reponsible for the empathogenic effects of many/most empathogens.
I'd be willing to bet that oxytocin agonists could prove to be very recreational indeed, especially when used in combination with other drugs, who knows what sort of empathogenic effects are possible when you're going straight for the oxytocin system itself?

That said these molecules don't seem to be studied that much. I would definitely not encourage anyone to make themselves a lab rat. I mean, even if you managed to get hold of some Way-267,464, how the hell are you supposed to know what sort of dose is safe in humans? There mighn't even be a safe recreational dose. Negative side-effects could kick in long before you come close to any appreciable feelings. Fuck, i'd be scared it would kill me or something.

tl,dr: I seriously reccomend you don't experiment with WAY-267,464. or any other completely experimental drug tbh.

Funnily enough i was just reading this article earlier on today:
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/69359/title/Love_hormone_has_a_dark_side

Oxytocin, a hormone with a rosy reputation for getting people to love, trust and generally make nice with one another, can get down and dirty, according to evidence presented on January 28 at the annual meeting of the Society for Personality and Social Psychology.

This brain-altering substance apparently amplifies whatever social proclivities a person already possesses, whether positive or negative, says psychologist Jennifer Bartz of Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York City.
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It would seem oxytocin does not cause feelings of "love", and instead imo might just help make you more socially focused/attuned.
It could be that oxytocin is a vital compenent in what causes "loving" feelings, but that it is not, in itself, the full story. Perhaps only when coupled with a state of high reward will an oxytocin release create feelings of "love"....or i could be completely wrong :).....
 
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Wonkamonk said:
What? What I've understood is, you wanted to try some oxytocinergic substance after entactogens stopped working for you, and all you've got from researching the oxytocinergic stuff was eventually getting to deal with a group of horny lab rats? LOOOL! I would guess it makes humans horny too. When GHB and DMT have gone illegal, you know endogenous substances taken from the outside may still alter your state of consciousness in some way or another!
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My theory was that one could potentially end heart-break if you understood how oxytocin was received and transmitted in your body. It has nothing to do with getting high. MDMA is temporary. Does not fix the long-term stress of heart break, but it does for the 2-5 hours that you're on it.
 
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