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By that term I mean someone who has had negative health (physical or mental) consequences from their psychedelic use. This is not limited to only abuse.

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gotta spell check those thread titles mayn

what do you mean by casualty? like do i abuse psychedelics or what? i'm a lil bit of an mdma casualty if that counts lol. been a month though and my brain is feeling niiiice
 
It's funny that you originally wrote "causalties," because in this thread we need to pay particular attention to causality. In other words, "Did the LSD cause the person to fall out of a window or did the person's pre-existing mental condition/unstable guardrail/poor choice of friends/setting cause it?"
 
It's awfully hard to get any reliable information about this. The trouble is every disturbed guy who walks past someone will say "He took acid and never came back dude". It's the easiest thing to say when you know absolutely fuck-all about the individuals case.
 
RhythmSpring said:
It's funny that you originally wrote "causalties," because in this thread we need to pay particular attention to causality. In other words, "Did the LSD cause the person to fall out of a window or did the person's pre-existing mental condition/unstable guardrail/poor choice of friends/setting cause it?"
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Interesting.
Would you subscribe to the idea that a person with a latent mental instability could be precipitated into full blown mental instability by taking a psychedelic drug ?
 
i think you'd have to trip a LOT to really lose your shit, and even then it depends on the person. i wouldn't say there's a set number but i'll bet tripping a several times a year couldn't cause it

i think T. Leary turned somewhat of an acid casualty, i've watched a fair few interviews of him, but even then up until around 1968 he seemed very mentally stable and even wise, like truly enlightened. but i think some things happened from then on for the next few decades and he did lose it a bit, but by his old age he seems relatively clear headed

but saying that, you can get a lot of people who've never taken psychedelics, and when you inspect them on a personal level and you look at their neuroses and their psychological complexes, it can be quite gruesome as to what you uncover
 
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I think being sent to prison and being forced to live on the run for years is a lot more likely to damage your mental health than any acid Tim took.
 
^Haha that makes sense, he was labeled the most dangerous man in America.

TBH I don't see his later years (1980+) as that crazy, he was just a futurist and optimist so his ideas seemed far out.
 
I knew a girl who's brother stabbed himself in the chest while on mushrooms. I knew another girl who had a friend on mushrooms who fell off of an apartment balcony and died.
 
i know plenty more people who have fucked their lives up on alcohol.

gotta respect the power of psychedelics.

but the "acid casualty" is a stereotype in our culture that has been greatly exaggerated by the media and various propagandists. just like "acid flashback" or whatever.
 
boiledfruit said:
I knew a girl who's brother stabbed himself in the chest while on mushrooms. I knew another girl who had a friend on mushrooms who fell off of an apartment balcony and died.
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I know someone who decided that his acid trip would 'never end' and that he wanted it to and proceeded to raid his medicine cupboard and eat EVERYTHING, right down to strepsels in an attempt to 'end' the trip (and himself as a result in the weird way that acid can work). He ended up in hospital, but luckily recovered and has tripped fine since.

Sometimes psychedelics can just really play with the head so far to a point that situations like the above happen. That's why a sitter can be so important at times.
 
where i'm from there's an old guy who used to wander around downtown and be paranoid someone was going to drink him or tip him over because he thought he was orange juice and he would die. there was a bunch of other stuff too but i don't remember exactly what the stories were besides that. the older people who knew him say that he used to do acid a lot and just never came back, but they think there's some mental issues in there too.

when my mom was younger she was also at a party and was friends with a "really popular football player" that took acid and never came back..she said he was never the same after that night, wouldn't talk to anyone but himself, stopped playing football, all sorts of stuff. since a lot of people knew the story his parents didn't keep him in that school for very long and my mom says she never knew what happened to him. but she said from what she knows he took a LOT of acid.
 
pontifex01 said:
You're being an insensitive prick because this is my brother, and I was on suicide watch for two years, so think carefully about how you phrase your statements you twat.
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:! If you don't like reading people's unfiltered reactions and thoughts and remarks then GO AWAY DONT COME HERE AND DONT READ THEM oh high and mighty fuckwad. People who get all offended and tell other what to say or not to say on what should be a unfettered free-for-all public, when they DELIBERATELY came here and read the offending remarks of their own free will' really piss me off. Oh, I guess that applies to me to. Never mind =D
 
pontifex01 said:
You're being an insensitive prick because this is my brother
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So what, this is MY brother:

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indicaa said:
where i'm from there's an old guy who used to wander around downtown and be paranoid someone was going to drink him or tip him over because he thought he was orange juice and he would die
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I've got news for you indicaa, this old guy who used to wander downtown never existed. This is an urban myth from way back, it's usually "a guy in the next town".
 
The idea of saying "I was on psychedelic drugs" is to say to the judge "I'm a great guy when I'm not tripping so don't give me a long sentence". He was probably perfectly sober.

PCP isn't any worse than any other drug - all you do when you take it is lay down and giggle. All the stories about "He fought 10 men and we had to shoot him 20 times" were the same stories they used in the first days of pot (reefer madness), coke, LSD etc. It might have stuck around PCP a bit longer because it's such a rare drug no-one has ever tried it whereas enough people have tried pot to see through reefer madness.
 
Funny, but personally I feel LSD actually turned me into a more sociable and "normal" person.

Back when I was a teenager, I was plagued with social anxiety and had huge problems with my self-esteem. I was the weird guy that nobody understood. LSD completely cured me (along with growing up, I suppose...)

I'm now much more comfortable in human society, I stopped beating myself up with inferiority complex and it's clear to me that LSD played a part, allowed me to face and vanquish my fears... Somehow, I feel smarter and more "sophisticated" too...
 
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