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Help with confronting a heroin addicted friend

leigh12

leigh12

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ok , well the title explains most

sorta recently, over the last 12 months , a very very close friend
has become addicted to shooting heroin , using daily , started off smoking it
after tryin oxys etc , and i kno for a fact the person in question would most likely
not be doing this if it wasnt for me .
i tried it a few times , the person crakd shits with me n threatened to tell everyone. then 3 weeks later tells me he been shooting daily for the last few weeks, and its led to the person doin things i cldnt imagine to feed the addiction.

i said in the beginning , " if it gets out of hand , youll fukn know about it"

and 2 weeks back , said person spilled spoonful of mixture (200mg) over a small glass
table and half of it soaked into theyr tracksuit pants , when they proceeded to try
suck it back into the barrell off theyr pants i said "remember wen i said if shit
gets out of hand?" n str8 away they stoppd n said , err is this too far .
then we both sorta shook our heads n laughed , n i just said "honestly , i
dont know what to say anymore"

i can see they have the will to get off it alone, but i dont want it to be too late
wen they do try n just end up relapsing over n over

said person also now using injectable roids

anyhoo, i dont want to come across in a shameful or dissapointed way to the person,
i jst duno how to bring it up without causing a stir or physical altercation,
theyr already prescribed subs but stil using regularly, also has admitted to me of o'ding n bein woke by police or ambos

i just duno how to go about this the right way, it was my own realisations that led me to the sober road, i still do some drugs but nothing thats gonna be a problem, i even quit booze, exept mercurys lol.

but this person already has alot to be greatful for n has a decent life in general
n has a lot to lose.
id kill to switch lives , apart frm the drugs part of course. me quit(quitting) drugs is to make a better overall future for me n the drugfree wifey.

i jst dont see y sumone who has everything im bustin my balls for, has to rely on drugs for reassurance that shits gonna be ok .

but ye, whats the best way to confront my friend about this??
, keeping in mind this person has a very short fuse n doesnt hesitate to swing a few fists around or whatevas in reach. im the only person who knows basically , fiance is totally clueless to the matter , wich i aint gonna inform her of ..

i aint gonna pull some intervention shit on em , jst want it to be a calm, guy to guy chat without him flippin the lid n goin nuts on me verbally or physically.

this is the only person i havent given the ass over the last year and dont plan to, i just wana get the cunt off the gear , n threatenin to tell people will just end nasty so thats not a option for me , if theres a similar thread jst delete this then , but sum hints and tips from anyone whos been in same situation would and could help greatly , cheers fuckers :P
 
Unless he wants to stop, he's not going to.

The only advice I can give is to be there for him when he needs it and be positive about him getting clean. Belittling him or trying to shame him into quitting will not help at all and will probably make things worse.
 
yeh i dont plan on goin about it like that. itd end up in a punchon for sure, wich wen i think about it , cld make him realise im genuinely worried n wanna help.

im seein the person over nxt cpl days so ill jst sit him down with a six pack n try talk it out
n hopefully get some sorta progress

fuck, just got asked if i wanted to buy any too . was hard to say no
 
this is a pretty crude suggestion, really...especially in light of the 'sober' lifestyle you're aiming to pursue, but rather than sitting him down with a six-pack, may i suggest a couple of tabs of acid?

some of the warmest, deepest conversations i've ever had with friends - with perspective and clarity and full understanding - have been on the tail-end of an acid trip.
my own shortcomings and their implications come into full focus, and things people say actually get heard, processed, considered. the screens we put up to avoid these sorts of understandings all come down.
agree totally with opi8 in that you can't make someone quit, or want to quit - it has to be driven by their own desires - but it does seem like you are approaching this in a very reasoned, aware way.
i don't expect you to take my suggestion too seriously - but it is a possibility, i guess.
good luck man :)
 
leigh12 said:
i tried it a few times , the person crakd shits with me n threatened to tell everyone. then 3 weeks later tells me he been shooting daily for the last few weeks, and its led to the person doin things i cldnt imagine to feed the addiction.
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It seems he knows hes in the addiction, and knows how shit it is, and doesnt want you to go down the same path he is in, Look at your mate, stay away if you dont want to end up like him, because you will start doing it together, and then you end up doing the same random shit to get your hit, and eventually do some stupid shit together to land yourselves in some serious shit.
 
opi8 said:
Unless he wants to stop, he's not going to.

The only advice I can give is to be there for him when he needs it and be positive about him getting clean. Belittling him or trying to shame him into quitting will not help at all and will probably make things worse.
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This is the most important thing here...
You can tell your friend all u want, but they have to make the decision themselves

i tried to help a person recently stop shooting up Rs, i was able to get them back on good terms with their family for a short time, get them a normal job and get them back into the community.

But it wasnt enough cause the person wasnt really dedicated to quitting. It was really hard on me to watch all of this go on so make sure you dont get caught up in it too. you can only do so much
 
grugz said:
It seems he knows hes in the addiction, and knows how shit it is, and doesnt want you to go down the same path he is in, Look at your mate, stay away if you dont want to end up like him, because you will start doing it together, and then you end up doing the same random shit to get your hit, and eventually do some stupid shit together to land yourselves in some serious shit.
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so your tellin him to stay away from one of his very close friends because he forming a serious addiction on a drug of dependence whom of which is is tryin to help out for his own good????? :?:? and you say he knows he's in an addiction even thought he's only been doin it for three weeks...?

to leigh12: sorry but I cant help ya on this one.. I only know a couple of cunts that are/has been dependent on smack.. and the only way they have gotten off the H is threw rehab/detox (by no means am I sayin these people were 'cunts', they were actually really down to earth people, good people.. I just refer to everyone/thing as cunt :p)
 
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been longer than that...
theres alot more to the story guys, so don't read into some of the smaller details too much ;)

leigh has been through similar demons himself, so certainly understands the thought processes occurring here.

i think leigh is after advice from others that have had even some success with others without the specifics of the situation being read into too deeply.
 
grugs- me gettn into same situation has been and gone
i just got ontop of it b4 it got ontop of me , and am now reducing my maintenance dosages by 5mg a month

misk1- correcto , u kno my whole life story basically lol

pisspotnrock - lol cunt is well embeded in my daily vocab as well, its just a aussie thing i guess lol its been just over a year , it was 3 weeks after me shooting h that he told me hed been doin it flat out

and thanks to others for replys , iv thought it thru n just gonna say what i feel

oh and spacejunk, he wont touch acid or psychs at all, itd just turn into a laugh fest and us most likely goin halves in a g of junk at the end of it lol

i fukd up myself last monday and got a .3 on credit (best ever had), just after i paid off another guy who was threatenin me if i didnt pay him by a certain time last sunday, but a very good mate helped me out of that one, who i cldnt thank enuff

also mods, in the end wen iv gotten thru this thing, cld the thread be deleted plz, or can i do that myself??
 
all the best with it man, sorry i've been bit of a lost cunt of late, thanks for the support, will always do what i can to return the favor.
 
Sorry to hear, I'm 36 now been off Harry for about 12 years I started Harry when I was 19 and stopped in my late twenties many people begged me to stop but I didn't care cause I liked it I didn't go into rehab or take done I took a week away , went camping and sweat the shit out of myself and painfully got it out of my system but I also moved away from Sydney which was my biggest temptation I don't think any advice can help really other than be there for your mate when they need u but don't enable them ,just be there when they need you , Harry is a strange drug cause it makes you feel wanted there are still times when I swear I can taste it but I look at the scars on my arms and think hey it was fun but I don't wanna go there again , I'm in a good place now and don't wanna wreck it
 
leigh12 said:
grugs- me gettn into same situation has been and gone
i just got ontop of it b4 it got ontop of me , and am now reducing my maintenance dosages by 5mg a month

misk1- correcto , u kno my whole life story basically lol

pisspotnrock - lol cunt is well embeded in my daily vocab as well, its just a aussie thing i guess lol its been just over a year , it was 3 weeks after me shooting h that he told me hed been doin it flat out

and thanks to others for replys , iv thought it thru n just gonna say what i feel

oh and spacejunk, he wont touch acid or psychs at all, itd just turn into a laugh fest and us most likely goin halves in a g of junk at the end of it lol

i fukd up myself last monday and got a .3 on credit (best ever had), just after i paid off another guy who was threatenin me if i didnt pay him by a certain time last sunday, but a very good mate helped me out of that one, who i cldnt thank enuff

also mods, in the end wen iv gotten thru this thing, cld the thread be deleted plz, or can i do that myself??
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nah dude dosnt work that way, you cant just choose to take back your discussion once you've posted it to bl.Reminds me of something that happend to a good mate of mind. BL will not even remove your account for you if you beg them because bunch of people in his immediate world worked out this account was his, and his whole life story was found out by everyone, he did try to get BL to delete his account before this was the result but they refused. But had they just had even changed his account name to something else for him as he begged them to, delete change, anything so his whole friends circle and family dont learn in depth about his entire drug career. But yeah good luck getting bl to help you in this situation, your on your own. So dont ever post something you might want removed in the future unless you go and manually edit your own threads.

Chubba75 was a top bloke here.... But of course it's his fault not bl's just sayin. But i know for a fact, bluelight could have easily saved the partial ruining of this persons reputation and how he was perceived by most of the people he knew. The effects of this are still affecting chub to this day, his father never forgave him ect. Not exactly bls fault but they so easily could have helped their member by 30 seconds of effort by an admin.
 
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^You can delete your posts if you want though and I'm pretty sure if you're the top post (ie, you started the thread) then by deleting your post, the whole thread disappears too.

Not much advice for Leigh as ime people have to make their own decisions to quit, that's the only way it ever works.
 
8L4YN3 I am surprised by your story as I had a recent scare where I thought my mum had saw my screen name and said I would possibly need a name change. An admin immediately offered to do this for me and even after I found out it was cool they double checked that I did not want to change it temporarily atleast just in case.

I have wondered what happened to Chubba75, I used to enjoy his posts... Back to the topic anyway. For the record threads can be deleted but I would have to speak to other mods to be sure of the circumstances it was OK, presumably upon the OP's request it would be fine but don't hold me to that.
 
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