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Patting the dog?

can be classed as hindering police or assaulting a police officer or somesuch.
you're best advised not to touch police dogs, police horses, or any other animals that are employed in law enforcement.
they're always looking for an excuse.
 
Well not entirely true, depending on situation and copper. If you ask nicely and depemding on who you or copper is might get a pat.

I think its to do with the reward system with dogs, where they only get a reward when they sniff out something, unless its play time. So no pats when its work time, but ok when its play time or something.

Also if one person pats, it might end up a thousand other patting, I mean "i saw that guy pat him, why cant I?" and then the dog ends up getting more excited about going out to get pats then sniffing

Also gives the impression to public its a show and tell sort of thing not the "tough" look they want
 
^ Yeah I think that's it, while dogs are working they shouldn't get any 'reward' (like patting) to distract them from their job. That's what it's like for guide dogs anyway and I can imagine it'd be pretty similar for police dogs.
 
^^^ think ur correct there .

seen a section on one of them customs shows few weeks back about sniffers n how theyr trained etc
 
a friend of mine got spiked by a sniffer dog, the officer didnt have direct line of sit, he smacked it on the nose, anyway the dog left him alone lol
 
I've seen people say (maybe even here on BL) they'd bring a water pistol full of bong water so when they lined up to get in an event, they'd spray that and the dog would be useless :D

One time I was walking into godskitchen with a friend and the dog sat down beside him. The jacks made him emtpy his pockets and bag but not me - they didn't search me or my bag at all. I thought it must have been because since the dog stopped next to him (as he was closer) there was no reasonable grounds to search me. In previous experiences though, cops have never been that logical =D
 
i like the waterpistol idea a lot.
i'd like to start an activist group around festival season that sprays front gate line-up areas, train stations and other obvious points of sniffer-dog harassment. rather than being effective policing, dogs are a psychological law-enforcement technique, targeting small-time users only and creating a climate of fear (which only leads to more risky drug use as evidenced by the girl that died at the perth BDO ~3 years ago).
if this is a drug war, we need to fight back :)
 
peterpellet said:
a friend of mine got spiked by a sniffer dog, the officer didnt have direct line of sit, he smacked it on the nose, anyway the dog left him alone lol
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There is no way a professional dog trainer would ever smack their dog on its nose. I'm not sure who is embellishing that story but it's not true.

footscrazy said:
^ Yeah I think that's it, while dogs are working they shouldn't get any 'reward' (like patting) to distract them from their job. That's what it's like for guide dogs anyway and I can imagine it'd be pretty similar for police dogs.
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Yep, you're right hun, sniffer dogs are "on duty" exactly the same as guide dogs are. This is the exact reason you're generally not allowed to pat them, because it distracts them from their job.


I really wish that people would have more respect for sniffer dogs, and remember that they are extremely intelligent and impeccibly trained animals. Their agenda is NOT to ruin your festival or concert or rave, and they are not there with the intent to get you arrested. They are purely there to perform the tasks they have been trained to do. And have you really watched them do it?? They absolutely LOVE it! Because dogs are naturally gifted in obeying their master, and when they get whatever they've been trained to do right, and when they please their trainer, nothing in the whole world makes them happier.

So please don't go out of your way to distract them when they are on the job, whether it's by wanting to pat them, or attempting to confuse them by spraying bong water in all directions. All they are out there to do is to complete the task that they have been trained to do.

spacejunk said:
dogs are a psychological law-enforcement technique
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Mate, dogs are dogs. They are animals, not objects, do not forget that.
 
"dogs" as in "(the use of sniffer) dogs".
lazy typing, i didn't intend to imply the dog themselves were to blame.
but the way they are being used (at least in my state in recent years) seems to be for the benefit of the media and the public perception the dog squad creates when they turn up at music festivals.
 
n3ophy7e said:
I really wish that people would have more respect for sniffer dogs, and remember that they are extremely intelligent and impeccibly trained animals.
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They definitely are amazing creatures. I love watching guidedogs work, they are so clever and make a massive difference in the quality of life of disabled people.

I do know that sometimes police will bring untrained dogs to a scene so they can read people's body language - see who is stressing or trying to sneak away, and that gives them grounds to search.
 
Mate, dogs are dogs. They are animals, not objects, do not forget that.
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I read spacejunk's comment as being more about how the animals are used by law enforcement, not criticizing the dogs themselves for just doing what they have been trained to do. I'm not a dog person by any means, but I know that when the police use them to sniff out contraband substances it's not as if the animal should be blamed by the drug using community; law enforcement should be the ones criticized for how they use these animals to create fear in people who are most likely carrying only personal amounts of drugs.
 
^ indeed.
no gripe with doggies - just the pigs.
i am disgusted by things i've seen cops do with horses too, not only on the street and at demonstrations, but what i understand they do to train them - desensitisation techniques. not cool.
 
My mate accidentally whacked one in the nose with one of those big Mother cans once, the cops were pretty laid back about it, but they still searched him.
 
Mr Blonde said:
I read spacejunk's comment as being more about how the animals are used by law enforcement, not criticizing the dogs themselves for just doing what they have been trained to do. I'm not a dog person by any means, but I know that when the police use them to sniff out contraband substances it's not as if the animal should be blamed by the drug using community; law enforcement should be the ones criticized for how to use these animals to create fear in people who are most likely carrying only personal amounts of drugs.
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Totally agreee, I live in inner city Sydney and often i have been called out of the dog train searches in fri/sat nights.

This is beacuse of the hydro I smoke permeates my body as often it the last thing i do as I leave the house (except for work). Regurlary I have to embaress my fiance by being searched even though they always have to leave me cuase i never carry on me in public.

Those dogs a re powerful, although they have missed e and meth in town hall on occasion whike i walked right past them.

they can really make you look stupid though.
 
spacejunk said:
"dogs" as in "(the use of sniffer) dogs".
lazy typing, i didn't intend to imply the dog themselves were to blame.
but the way they are being used (at least in my state in recent years) seems to be for the benefit of the media and the public perception the dog squad creates when they turn up at music festivals.
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Cool. I was a bit drunk when I posted my reply to your comment so I may have come across as a bit inflammatory, but yeah I understand what you meant now :)
 
footscrazy said:
They definitely are amazing creatures. I love watching guidedogs work, they are so clever and make a massive difference in the quality of life of disabled people.

I do know that sometimes police will bring untrained dogs to a scene so they can read people's body language - see who is stressing or trying to sneak away, and that gives them grounds to search.
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They don't need any grounds to search any more. They can legally search us at any time for "weapons"
 
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