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How much solution ob blotter paper
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polaroid
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If i would have a such blotter paper here, i would test it. But i don't do, and i'm sure people already tested this out. So, thanks for your answer.
SpinOutOfControl
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What ever you are considereing i don't see it being very successful with a single blotter. IF you are making blotters with a chemical other than LSD make sure who you give it to is aware of what they are taking.
greenmeanies
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the reason this type of question does not get answered:
1. (most legitimate, but least probable) you are attempting to lay LSD on paper. but somehow you got hold of crystal lsd without the knowledge to use it, so this can't be true.
2. you are attempting to lay other highly active drugs (phenazepam, DOx, 25x-NBOMe, etc) for personal use on appropriately labeled ("1MG DOB PER 1CMx1CM") blotter paper, in which case your original question would be different.
3. you are attempting to lay these non-LSD drugs on blotter paper disguised as LSD for sale, in which case you should be dragged out back and shot.
If it's case #2, i'd suggest going to the art supply store and picking up watercolor paper, then testing it with various amounts of water and/or alcohol in order to establish a familiarity working with it. you don't want to lose a massive amount of product by inexperience do you?
1. (most legitimate, but least probable) you are attempting to lay LSD on paper. but somehow you got hold of crystal lsd without the knowledge to use it, so this can't be true.
2. you are attempting to lay other highly active drugs (phenazepam, DOx, 25x-NBOMe, etc) for personal use on appropriately labeled ("1MG DOB PER 1CMx1CM") blotter paper, in which case your original question would be different.
3. you are attempting to lay these non-LSD drugs on blotter paper disguised as LSD for sale, in which case you should be dragged out back and shot.
If it's case #2, i'd suggest going to the art supply store and picking up watercolor paper, then testing it with various amounts of water and/or alcohol in order to establish a familiarity working with it. you don't want to lose a massive amount of product by inexperience do you?
polaroid
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1. If i would like to lay LSD on blotter i would just buy vials and drop it on the blotter. Crystal is not the only way to go. I'm sure you know this.
2. Wow, you've got me. I have sourced some pure Etizolam and would like to make some 1 mg blotters for personal use. It would be just easier for me to know if a prepared 7,5*7,5mm lsd-art sheet could absorb enough amount of solution (water/alcohol), without going to the art supply store, buy watercolor paper, graduate it and testing the shit out of it. I thought maybe some people here already tested it so i could save up this procedure.
3. I don't want to sell it, so please ... don't shoot me.
artic
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According to Chinacat, 110ml of Everclear to one gram of crystal will produce 100 sheets at 100ug per 1/4" hit if your substance is 100% pure (using a 70% pure product for example would result in a 70ug dose). This is using #14 watercolor paper, and in his example he is of course laying LSD and not Etizolam. Many have suggested that he is full of shit, though.
Honestly, I think your best bet is to keep it simple. If your heart is set on blotter (I can't imagine why), and it really is for personal use, then it doesn't have to look professional. Here's a hint, if you know how much you start with, how much paper you end up with, and how much you want your dose to be, all it takes is a little math to figure out how to cut your paper into the right size dose.
The amount of liquid is irrelevant, because it is just a means of transporting the drug to the paper. Your blotters will not end up looking like perfect 1/4" LSD blotters, they will be large and probably oblong, but at least that way no one will take it thinking it is LSD (hopefully).
Thank you for being honest (I hope) with us, btw. If you aren't, the karma police will fuck you up.
Honestly, I think your best bet is to keep it simple. If your heart is set on blotter (I can't imagine why), and it really is for personal use, then it doesn't have to look professional. Here's a hint, if you know how much you start with, how much paper you end up with, and how much you want your dose to be, all it takes is a little math to figure out how to cut your paper into the right size dose.
The amount of liquid is irrelevant, because it is just a means of transporting the drug to the paper. Your blotters will not end up looking like perfect 1/4" LSD blotters, they will be large and probably oblong, but at least that way no one will take it thinking it is LSD (hopefully).
Thank you for being honest (I hope) with us, btw. If you aren't, the karma police will fuck you up.
Incunabula
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Yes, I think it´s holding something in the area of 50-100 uL (that´s microliter) I think.
If you make the blotters a little bigger you can fit some more, obviously. To dispense this little an amount of liquid precisely you need a micropipette, which you can buy on ebay.
You need Either a 0-100ul or a 0-200uL micropipette.
You can also just use the ghetto tek for laying the blotter.
Make your math, (paper size/amount of liquid/amount of compound) Disolve Etizolam in isopropyl alcohol (I think Thienoziapines are soluble in IPA), pour into tray or bag, put your blotter into it and let it absorb, let dry.
Using this method will obviously create blotters that are unevenly laid. This could be a disaster with a lot of drugs, but not really with Etizolam, the dose/response-curve of Etizolam is pretty forgiving, 0,5 or 1 mg more or less is no big deal.
But if I were you, and I had some Etizolam powder, I would just use liquid dosing.
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Normal liquid acid is not concentrated enough to lay blotter with, apparently, so that adds to greenmeanies' point. You could not get the paper to absorb enough to get a nice dose, don't even start about soaking multiple times. On the other hand there are other compounds to put on blotter for personal use, it seems it happens with alprazolam, phenazepam, JWH-018, DOX and NBOMe compounds among others, though it is uncommon...
But please people, distribution of blotters is not desirable: it cannot be controlled if it is going to be passed off as acid beyond some point... besides we do not want to discuss things like distribution here anyway, with blotters it is easy to reach a number of doses considered higher than meant for personal use).
Another thing is that you should not ask for this value if you ever mean to do this yourself, you should test it. There are different kinds of paper so don't be lazy. You don't even have to ask for a ballpark value if you do it in a certain manner, taring a number of dry blotter (as many as you care to rip a square of for testing purposes), then letting it absorb plain solvent such as ethanol, letting it drip until there is really no drop coming out anymore at all, then weighing again. Start off with the proper mini-plate to contain all of the paper. You will make your scale wet but of course no liquid should come out if you let it drip right. Don't apply pressure when you handle it.
The difference in weight is the exact absorbency value for the paper, use it to calculate other numbers of doses or square sizes.
Yeah using a container to let your blotter sit in when it dries allows for uneven distribution so as is said it will often make uneven doses - don't do that.
If you have calculated the exact value of liquid that your paper can absorb make sure you get a drug solution of exactly that volume, no more and no less. I'd be on the look out for a dish that very tightly lets your paper sit in there - maybe something like certain tupperware is both square and has a size that is only slightly bigger than your paper. But be careful with rounded bottom-edges in the vertical sense.
If you follow all these instructions the paper should soak exactly the liquid that you put in the dish after which you let it dry suspended on something like two wires of viscose stretched in mid-air. Ideally you can tighten the wires like on a violin or guitar to adjust them to be nice and level, as an extra measure for even distribution.
Don't use a micropipette to drop individual hits unless it's for a few occasions only for personal use in which case you normally do not invest in micropipettes. Besides, for personal use you can use other carriers than paper to let your liquid acid dry on. Pop tarts are classic carriers although the most classic one is probably sugar cubes.
I've heard about a sick method for application of LSD to paper that involved misting or creating some sort of vapor (perhaps with ultrasonic waves or something like that?) to get a uniform distribution. I don't know the specifics but in terms of achieving even distribution I can believe that it is cutting edge.
But please people, distribution of blotters is not desirable: it cannot be controlled if it is going to be passed off as acid beyond some point... besides we do not want to discuss things like distribution here anyway, with blotters it is easy to reach a number of doses considered higher than meant for personal use).
Another thing is that you should not ask for this value if you ever mean to do this yourself, you should test it. There are different kinds of paper so don't be lazy. You don't even have to ask for a ballpark value if you do it in a certain manner, taring a number of dry blotter (as many as you care to rip a square of for testing purposes), then letting it absorb plain solvent such as ethanol, letting it drip until there is really no drop coming out anymore at all, then weighing again. Start off with the proper mini-plate to contain all of the paper. You will make your scale wet but of course no liquid should come out if you let it drip right. Don't apply pressure when you handle it.
The difference in weight is the exact absorbency value for the paper, use it to calculate other numbers of doses or square sizes.
Yeah using a container to let your blotter sit in when it dries allows for uneven distribution so as is said it will often make uneven doses - don't do that.
If you have calculated the exact value of liquid that your paper can absorb make sure you get a drug solution of exactly that volume, no more and no less. I'd be on the look out for a dish that very tightly lets your paper sit in there - maybe something like certain tupperware is both square and has a size that is only slightly bigger than your paper. But be careful with rounded bottom-edges in the vertical sense.
If you follow all these instructions the paper should soak exactly the liquid that you put in the dish after which you let it dry suspended on something like two wires of viscose stretched in mid-air. Ideally you can tighten the wires like on a violin or guitar to adjust them to be nice and level, as an extra measure for even distribution.
Don't use a micropipette to drop individual hits unless it's for a few occasions only for personal use in which case you normally do not invest in micropipettes. Besides, for personal use you can use other carriers than paper to let your liquid acid dry on. Pop tarts are classic carriers although the most classic one is probably sugar cubes.
I've heard about a sick method for application of LSD to paper that involved misting or creating some sort of vapor (perhaps with ultrasonic waves or something like that?) to get a uniform distribution. I don't know the specifics but in terms of achieving even distribution I can believe that it is cutting edge.
Focus on Magic
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Listen.. anyone who can get crystal lsd better be carefull..you can lose your life in more way then one.. 1- mis handling it.. 2- the people you get it from 3 - hate to say it but hheemmm the gov hmmemm er.. heehhemm ment
becarefull when you play with the big boys..you might just end up like a baby playing with toys.
Just to even be able to talk to someone who would actually give you real crystal..well if they are family.. will make you do a thumb print to see 1- if your legit and can handle it if you had to eat a sheet .. 2- to let you know that if you ever fuck em .. if you think the thumbprint of the clean shit is bad.. try getting puddled with some dirty ass fuckn amber crystal.. you'll beg for your life back on your knees begging for mercy
becarefull when you play with the big boys..you might just end up like a baby playing with toys.
Just to even be able to talk to someone who would actually give you real crystal..well if they are family.. will make you do a thumb print to see 1- if your legit and can handle it if you had to eat a sheet .. 2- to let you know that if you ever fuck em .. if you think the thumbprint of the clean shit is bad.. try getting puddled with some dirty ass fuckn amber crystal.. you'll beg for your life back on your knees begging for mercy
polaroid
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Err ... this is going in the wrong way. I just wanted to know if could put a mg of Etizolam on a standard lsd blotter. Nothing about laying lsd crystal on blotter, eating thumbprints and dance with the family in the forest. I think i will just drop it on sugar cubes. Thanks anyway.
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