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Seeing infrared and ultraviolet rays on psychedelics

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Infrared waves are just outside of the visible spectrum. I've noticed when tripping the ability to see temperature, much like one would if infrared waves were included in our visible spectrum.

Just because our eyes do not have the capacity to process these waves does not mean our brains cannot. Perhaps the actual waves are not being sensed, but the brain recreates what it expects the was to look like.

Has anybody observed ultraviolet blacklights while on psychedelics?
 
Just because our eyes do not have the capacity to process these waves does not mean our brains cannot
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Um, yeah. There has to be physical interaction with matter designed to send pulses of current through your nervous system. Ultraviolet light won't magically worm itself into your brain otherwise.

Can you see light without eyes? Can you percieve pressure or temperature if you lack the requisite innervation? I think the answer is no. Illusions are just that - illusions - and taking them as concrete fact can lead you into trouble. Doing a double-blind test on a blind guy to see if he can tell what color the room lighting should confirm this - perception doesn't always match up with reality.

Thanks to the short-wave cone cells in your eye having an adsorbtion peak at 420nm (teehee) the human eye is indeed sensitive to at least the "upper" portion of the UV spectrum (the nearest of the "near UV"). However, I do not reccomend exposing your eyes to UV, as it increases the risk of retinal damage and cataracts.

As for infrared, the eye is much less sensitive due to the adsorbtion by the atmosphere and water in your eyes. It's far more likely you are able to detect the changes in air currents and densities around a hot object (causing the air to "waver") rather than"seeing" IR light directly.
Again, viewing IR, especially high-intensity sources, for long periods of time is probably not a smart idea - this time because of the physical heat damage.

On a fun aside, the human eye is in fact sensitive to the polarization of light. Thanks to the way your photoreceptors are built, the lutein in your eyes will sense polarization and produce a blue or yellow "fuzz" depending on the angle.
 
Last weekend some friends and I did LSD while camping. Our fire pit was made out of an old piece of culvert tube (the corrugated metal tube things that help the ditches drain on the sides of roads), and me and my friends who were both on LSD noticed the rust color on it was very slowly changing. I beleive it was changing color due to it heating up from the fire and cooling down rapidly in the air (we were on top of a cold rainy mountain).

My girlfriend who was not on LSD though kept dismissing it and saying "nawwww you guys are just on LSD, color changes are normal). However, I know what I saw, and I've tripped out enough times on LSD and other psychedelics to know that I wasn't just seeing psycehdelic visuals. We were looking at the metal change color for a logn time, and it was happening very very slowly, but it was defintely happening.

My girlfriend still laughs at me and says it's stupid to belive it was anything other than me being hihg out of my mind on LSD...but I think when you remove those filters that are normally there, you most certainly can pick up on things that sober people might not perceive.

Whether or not this applies to seeing infra red or UV, I cannot really say....but my first thought when I read that was in line with Seikos argument - our eyes simply don't have the hardware, if you will, to detect UV or infrared radiation.
 
When I'm on HIGH doses of LSD and molly (both at the same time), SOMETIMES i see this net like thing over everyone. It looks like a nylon polymer elastic net, and I can see it on most people that are dancing. Like people have it over them and dance around with its elasticity. The first time I saw it I was in one, and I was dancing with it (the elasticity makes movement and spinning so much easier).

I thought this net might have been real, but I'm pretty sure I was just tripping balls. I've seen it twice, both at concerts. First time they were different colors, but when I saw them most recently at SHPONGLE/EOTO they were all black. Still trying to figure out what's up %)
 
As sekio stated, it is very unlikely that you can perceive UV or IR light while tripping. You could easily test this by having a friend cover an infrared remote, then either press a button or not over 30 - 50 trials, and see if you got all the trials where they pressed the button correct (if you can see infrared, it will be no problem to get every trial correct).

However, this is not to say that perceiving colors outside of all sober experience on psychedelics is impossible. Synesthete "projectors" (whose synesthetic colors are actually seen as color auras out in the environment) have reported "Martian colors" (colors that are only in their synesthetic spectrum and that they claim are not just odd mixtures of existing colors). Color-grapheme synesthetic projection of color is an "outside to inside to out" process (from the environment to the brain (where letter or number concepts are paired with particular colors) then back "out" as a projection over graphemes in the environment). Normal color perception is "outside to in". The extra processing synesthetes do in pairing concepts to colors to environmental symbols could conceivably result in the production of truly unique color qualia. Psychedelics could also conceivably result in such color production by artificially activating and integrating parts of the brain normally not involved in color perception into the process. I've twice perceived hyper-spatially when smoking salvia while on ayahuasca, and I thought that was totally impossible (in fact I repeated "this is impossible" over and over again during the experience), so I can't dismiss the idea of novel color perception entirely.

See also: Impossible colors
 
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As sekio stated, it is very unlikely that you can perceive UV or IR light while tripping. You could easily test this by having a friend cover an infrared remote, then either press a button or not over 30 - 50 trials, and see if you got all the trials where they pressed the button correct (if you can see infrared, it will be no problem to get every trial correct).
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Unless they see what they think is the infrared light due to the visuals, lol.
 
Some people definitely can see ultraviolet light. People who have had cataracts removed have reported this, since the lens normally absorbs it. Some people can see it naturally, like bees and other animals can. Besides, anybody who has taken deep enough doses of psychedelic drugs for a long enough time should know that the human brain can perceive infinite variations on the colour spectrum. We are made of light at a fundamental level, so it stands to reason that the machinery that we are built from can perceive it at some level.

edit: in my personal experience I have been able to perceive cosmic rays. I couldn't explain exactly what they appear like, or their colour, unless you had already witnessed them yourself. But I have perceived them.
 
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ive definitly noticed something similar to this. i dont know the truth, but im not convinced that acid doesnt allow us to see things that are there but cant normally be seen. one time i was tripping hard, and i swear i could see every single vein in my arm perfectly.
 
You cannot see infrared or ultraviolet rays your eyes are unable to process that info. Christ is a called a psychedelic for a reason.
 
You cannot see IR or UV. Eye does not have anything that's activated by IR, and UV is blocked by the lens of the eye.

In the early days of cataract treatment, which partially removed the lens of the eye, there are reports of people being able to see near UV. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphakia
 
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