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The 3-FMC/4-FMC (Flephedrone) Megathread

Thanks for the help of unofficially confirming that some 4 FMC was mislabeled and supplied to me as 3 FMC.
The lack of knowledge of these vendors amaze me sometimes. Or is it that they really think all buyers of such material are THAT dumb. I mean really...What could someone do about it? I don't know a single vendor thats willing to even think about exchanging or giving a refund after a package is opened. You spend a few bills and get sent the wrong material, in most cases your screwed out of the money and now have something you have no interest in. The only thing you get out of the whole deal is a lesson learned (not to use that supplier again:)).
After enjoying a sample of 3 FMC months back ago, I decided to reorder from the same vender but in a larger quanity. When the order was recieved, it wasn't hard to tell that it wasn't the same substance as recieved previously. Though I knew appearances can differ for various reasons, everything about it's physical charchateristics was different. Of course after it was insufflated I was quite confident. Good thing I had plenty of it, even though my assumtion lead straight to fleph, I still had to work dosages cautiously to find it's much higher threshold amount compared to 3 FMC. A few days later I found myself in the lab sampling a much trusted supplier's 4 fluoromethcathinone. It was such an exact match with my second order of supposively 3-FMC, that it could have even been from the same batch. Got some more 3-FMC, again from a completely different vender, not exact, but very much like the first sample.

I plan on ordering again from the same company that tried pulling one over on me since it hasn't been that long ago. Just to see if they send me the 4 FMC again as 3 FMC. If so I'll have two other samples with two seperate labs verification to prove otherwise.
 
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Any know if mixing 4-mec with 4-fmc is worth while? If so, what doses of each would you recommend?
 
I don't think 4-fmc is worth while period. I would skip out on getting the fleph and just get the meph. I was recently doing some research with both 3 and 4 FMC and found 4 fmc has a very mild mephedrone effect even while taking it at higher doses. It also left me with unworthy hangover everytime. I think adding 4-fmc would just water down your 4-Mec honestly. I don't think dose ratio would really matter in this case, cause as I said, I think it would just be watering down your mec.
 
Do you find any cathinones worthwhile as a replacement for mephedrone? I'm looking for a meph-type stim but something that's less intense, less side-effects, less fiending, etc .. not something thats just getting you completely mashed and immerses you in the effects but adds effects to what you're doing. Sort of like a few beers instead of an entire bottle of liquor. But then again not TOO mild ofcourse ..

4-MEC looked interesting, but reading about 4-MEC on the internet is very confusing since about half the reviews are positive and the others and saying it's shit. Description of what it feels like is also different everytime: i've seen it called: meph-like, not meph-like, more rushy than meph, more entactogenic than meph, euphoric, dysphoric, .. Wouldn't surprise me if vendors just shipped a bag with an 4-MEC label containing whatever lol ..
 
sighhill said:
just get the meph.
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I would if I could, fleph is easier to get a hold of though.

Solide said:
Do you find any cathinones worthwhile as a replacement for mephedrone? I'm looking for a meph-type stim but something that's less intense, less side-effects, less fiending, etc .. not something thats just getting you completely mashed and immerses you in the effects but adds effects to what you're doing. Sort of like a few beers instead of an entire bottle of liquor. But then again not TOO mild ofcourse ..
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Hey, you and me both. I haven't found a worthwhile replacement. Maybe we should have a "meph kiddie and proud - find me a replacement" megathread.

I find 4-FA (4-Fluoroamphetamine) and fleph a nice mix, more mashed up than meph but still really nice. Fleph on its own I didn't find so great. I'd steer clear of 4-MEC (though as you say, the reports are very mixed). It gave me about 50% of the fun of meph and 100% of the crash (not to mention 100% of the meph stink, yeeergh, I need ANOTHER shower). I am getting the gist from the net that you have to do a LOT at once to get good effects, and I'm just not willing to drop 300mg in one go (and not capable of putting that much up my nose).
 
angelsmoke said:
I am getting the gist from the net that you have to do a LOT at once to get good effects, and I'm just not willing to drop 300mg in one go (and not capable of putting that much up my nose).
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4-MEC Crystal up the hooter is absolutely disgusting, you will be blowing your nose very regularly for weeks after it! I don't even remember meph being that hard on the nose. You need to be around other people who know you're taking 4-MEC if snorting because it takes a while for the tears to dry up and for the horrible burn in the eyes and nose to go away. Anyway there's no point whatsoever in insufflating it, it works way better orally, don't know about rectally. I find a dose of 300 - 400 orally gives very nice euphoria, surprisingly nice actually considering lots of people think the euphoria is too mild. It is a hell of a lot milder than meph alright but still worthwhile.

Anyway I quite like flephedrone (4-FMC not 3-FMC), I find it gives a lovely feeling of contentment without any edginess at all. It also works better orally but insufflating isn't so much of a chore. I say just don't bother insufflating, effects are a lot nicer when swallowed, like a lot of other chems. My friends were very skeptical about taking fleph as they are not familiar with rc's at all, I eventually convinced them to take 200mg each in a glass of water. I did 280mg as I had been using 4-MEC a few days prior so tolerance had risen. 15-20 mins later the four of us agreed that it really hit the spot, nothing too demanding, you don't feel edgy or have to hide it. We re-dosed with similar doses a few more times during the night. It was a great night in, we just listened to music and chilled out. I will be taking 4-FMC again, when I can afford it. Need a little break anyway, gotta catch up on sleep and get back to the gym, haven't been in a week. Have just been feeling too tired from the few sleepless nights spent talking shit and listening to music :) We really took to much! Comedown is manageable though, no real need for benzo's, not for me anyway, others may feel different.
 
Solide said:
Do you find any cathinones worthwhile as a replacement for mephedrone? I'm looking for a meph-type stim but something that's less intense, less side-effects, less fiending, etc .. not something thats just getting you completely mashed and immerses you in the effects but adds effects to what you're doing. Sort of like a few beers instead of an entire bottle of liquor. But then again not TOO mild ofcourse ..

4-MEC looked interesting, but reading about 4-MEC on the internet is very confusing since about half the reviews are positive and the others and saying it's shit. Description of what it feels like is also different everytime: i've seen it called: meph-like, not meph-like, more rushy than meph, more entactogenic than meph, euphoric, dysphoric, .. Wouldn't surprise me if vendors just shipped a bag with an 4-MEC label containing whatever lol ..
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I do think there's some good 4-Mec out there. I actually have had some that I could swear it was 4-mmc if it wasn't from a guy that's from a state where it is banned
 
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Aaaaaaaaaaaargh 4-MEC OR 4-FMC?!??? Cannot decide, help! It is just a click away...Please somebody push me in the right direction. I'm thinking 4-MEC as I'm going to a concert next week, a heavy initial dose and similar re-doses should keep me going. Anybody have anything to say to this?
 
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4-MeC. It doesn't take 75% of a mg dose compared to a 4-fmc mg dose and to me 4-Mec is heavier in a good way. Takes a bit of 4-fmc to get one mildly going and the day after feels like a day after chugging alot of beer at a frat party the night before.
 
Heh, I'd say 4-FMC without a doubt. I find it to be stronger and more fun than 4-MEC. Less edgy, too.
 
angelsmoke said:
Hey, you and me both. I haven't found a worthwhile replacement. Maybe we should have a "meph kiddie and proud - find me a replacement" megathread.

I find 4-FA (4-Fluoroamphetamine) and fleph a nice mix, more mashed up than meph but still really nice. Fleph on its own I didn't find so great. I'd steer clear of 4-MEC (though as you say, the reports are very mixed). It gave me about 50% of the fun of meph and 100% of the crash (not to mention 100% of the meph stink, yeeergh, I need ANOTHER shower). I am getting the gist from the net that you have to do a LOT at once to get good effects, and I'm just not willing to drop 300mg in one go (and not capable of putting that much up my nose).
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You are then doing incredibaly too much 4-Mec at one time.150mg is plenty enough. Unless you have an iron stomach, a 300mg bomb would make one sick once the stomach started trying to digest it. And althugh I find it has a simular taste to it as 4-mmc, it does not make you reek of it like you're describing. Just a guess, but I think you got sold some old, impure, cut 4-mmc. Someone was likely trying to get off their hands and knew they couldn't sell it as meph. Vendor might be thinking since 4-Mec is still relatively new maybe customers wouldn't know the difference.
 
Did 200mg 4-FMC together with 200mg Methylone. Oral in water.

Extreme euphoria, best i ever tried.
 
I used to like doing that with mephedrone 250mg in a shot of orange juice gave me an insane come up.
 
Anyone know or tried `pink` 3fmc I see people looking for it specially a bit like those who seek out tan/yellow mdpv as its supposedly `better`.

So is pink fluphedrone any better than other types?
 
I was thinking about mixing 150mg 4-fmc with 15mg 2c-b. Sounds like it might add a little get up and go to the trip. Anyone ever tried this?
 
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So is anyone out there still doing 4fmc? Could you share your experience? Gentle buz, a bit like coke does not sound bad at all... Thanks.
 
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