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DOES ANY1 KNOW which SUPPLEMENTS/vitamins to include that work for staying asleep after falling asleep? Melatonin/5htp/tryptaphan DOESNT WORK. ^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^!

(p.s.- im not tryna get addicted to ambien or anything like that)
I just bought magnesium but it doesn't make me TIRED. I'm hoping it somehow helps some way though after a month of daily usage.

edit: i might be deficient in it, thats why i bought it. After taking MDMA I used to have crazy muscle twitches while tryna fall asleep, and after taking adderall my hearing got SUPER sensitive to the slightest crack in the walls. For this, I think I might have a deficiency. -_#

what form of magnesium did you get?

try not eating any large meals or energizing foods at least 4 hours prior to going to sleep.
 
Amphetaminesssssssssssssss

so what would be the biggest thing you guys would recommend for someone taking amps?

i already:
take melatonin before bed, drink tons of water, take magnesium for muscle twitches, and eat fruits n veggies even if the amp has gotten rid of my appetite. but i feel like i need something to help out ma brainz:D

i cant use fish oil, it makes me acne worse. so i was thinking maybe lecithin?
 
Has anybody ever used magnesium taurate?

i was reading about it in ADD about preventing/reducing amphetamine tolerance/damage but dont wanna buy any until ive heard reviews about it:\
 
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thanks. oddly enough i think its making me break out :p
weird, anecdotes point to the opposite from what i've seen..

Has anybody ever used magnesium taurate?

i was reading about it in ADD about preventing/reducing magnesium tolerance/damage but dont wanna buy any until ive heard reviews about it:\
what is this about magnesium tolerance??
/can't say i've never noticed any downregulation of the effects of my generic magnesium (66% RDA, right at bedtime). I definitely notice if i miss a few days :|
 
Piracetam for brain damage

I'm a 21 year old male and I believe I have damaged my brain from binge drinking, however I am still in the process of confirming this.

I've been reading alot about piracetam and I have heard people say that it can help alcholics who have brain damage. I'm not an alcoholic but I feel as though I am in the same boat. I ordered 700 grams of piracetam and it arrived today, and I also picked up 500 grams of soy bean lecithin granules. However I am not entirely sure how I should go about using this. I've seen some people say that 800 mg is the best dose, and other people say upwards of 5 grams. How many times a day should I have it? And how much and how often should I take the lecithin. I also take fish oil and vitamin b1.

I really need my mind back. I'm worried sick that I have permanently fucked my brain. I feel as though I've done some serious damage to it. Right now I can't think straight, I've got some serious 'brain fog', my short term memory has gone to absolute shit. I can't concentrate, and I can't work out complex (or sometimes simple) problems. This is very concerning to me, as I was once an extremely bright person.

I've been binge drinking on most weekends since I was about 16/17 years old, and I occasionally abused amphetamines and MDMA for a while too. It wasn't til I was about 19 or 20 when I really started to feel the effects of this. I started to notice that my short term memory was really degrading. As my username suggests, I didn't really slow down on the drinking. Instead I cut out all amphetamines and pills. My friends who also drink and abuse drugs like I do (except I drank alot more than them), all complained of the same things as I do, like short term memory loss and generally becoming stupid.

Fast forward to NYE 6 months ago. I was drinking really heavily during this period, and then one day I woke up and felt different in my brain. I was really scared because I thought I had done something severe to it, because I was feeling really not well in the head. Similar symptoms to what I have now but not as intense. At this point in time I stopped drinking almost completely. The only time I did ever touch alcohol was having the occasional beer or two with my friends, and I would never have more than say 3 drinks in a night (which is remarkable for me believe it or not). As the time past I started to notice that I was feeling a bit better in terms of my brain (nowhere near where I was at my peak). I thought my brain was at a fairly satisfactory level, and my depression (something that has been there my whole life), was probably at its best it had been for a while. So I was feeling decent overall.

HOWEVER, on Friday, about 2 weeks ago, I STUPIDLY got really drunk as it was a special occasion and I just didn't think about the consequences. When I woke up I was feeling so vague and groggy, but I wrote this off as being really hungover. The thing is, while the sickness and headache faded, the symptoms I mentioned in the first paragraph did not. And here I am on Thursday, still feeling like absolute runt.

Before you say it, I know I have to quit booze completely, and I am confident that I am going to be able to do it. But I'm just scared that it is too late, and I have damaged my brain beyond repair.
 
^ Merged with mega though there are numerous threads on supplements--View the first post for an incomplete listing. Use the search engine for greater results.

Welcome to BL, by the way. :)
 
Thanks for moving this. Any input on piracetam or
alcohol related brain damage would be appreciated. Would be likely that I have brain damage given my age and drinking habits? I haven't felt normal for 2 weeks.
 
Catching Fish: I was absolutely out of control with my alcohol and drug use from the age of 13 to 20. I am now 21...

I was drinking massive amounts of rum daily, and cider and all sorts with periodic addictions to GBL, Valium and Opiates. I went through a year and a half doing mephedrone in huge amounts at least from friday to sunday, often more in the week. I've also tripped heavily since the age of 13.

I say all this because I want it to comfort you that you most likely won't have caused serious brain damage. You are young and brain is relatively new.
The brain is remarkable in healing itself provided you feed it what it needs.

http://leisureguy.wordpress.com/2006/12/29/sober-up-can-let-brain-heal-itself/

From my personal experience, it takes me at least 4 weeks to start feeling normal again, but can actually take up to a few months. Don't let this depress you if you feel it's too long....it's nothing in the grand scheme of things.
I had grand mal seizures from drug/drink abuse, last one being in February. I havent touched a drop of alcohol since Feb and I really only now feel a real sense of mental clarity.
Having a grand mal seizure (3 times) is imo, alot more severe than "waking up and feeling different" and I managed to get myself back on track. Im not trying to downplay how you feel because I know exactly what you're going through my friend, simply letting you in on a pretty comforting example of rejuvenation.

Essential Top Tips For The Road To Recovery

  • Eat very cleanly. Your brain needs it badly. Base your diet on fruit and veg and nuts/seeds, eating lots of oily fish and drinking plenty of water. This is the foundation for all forms of healing (mental or physical)
  • Exercise! Hit the weights/do cardio alot! Cardiovascular Exercise and Resistance Training has been shown to aid the recovery of cognitive function and even prevent Alzheimer's.
  • Stay sober! Don't touch anything, not even a drop. Your brain and body needs sobriety and stability.
  • Cold showers. Google "health benefits cold showers" and thank yourself when you do it. Trust me on this one. Relieves anxiety and depression to astounding degree's for some, boosts circulation, aids autoimmune function amongst many other things.
  • Take Omega supplements (especially those focussing on substantial levels of DHA and EPA)
  • Don't panic! Relax....try and de-stress. Try meditation - it's great for relieving stress.

You are still young and you can easily get over this. Just take it one step at a time, follow these steps for a month solid and come back then. If you are serious about it, then you will absolutely and religiously carry out these few tips. If your problem persists, find a doctor, but I say from experience that if you do these things, you can overcome a lot of your troubles.
2 weeks is a short time. Your age is in your favour.
 
i think you know you gotta drop the booze/drugs (and you said you're not addicted/alcoholic, but your post seems to discount that :/ ).
i'd personally suggest against trying piracetam at this time. nootropics aren't an area i'd even THINK about until i took care of the real issues (ie, be healthy!*), as their effects are extremely mild compared to what you have going on right now.
and regarding how 'permanent' it is - and im completely stabbing in the dark since i don't know you and dont know a bunch of other facts - but at your age i *highly* doubt this isn't something you could bounce back pretty easily from, provided you treat your body right
(*i meant 'healthy' OVERALL, as in no binging <booze/drugs/whatever>, eating/sleeping properly, and at least some basic exercise/physical activity. pretty much all the symptoms you mention improve for most anybody who corrects those things, so even if it'd take, say, 6mo for your head to be essentially at 'baseline', you'd actually get rid of some of the 'mental fog/problems' you're experiencing. i'd imagine that would also give you incentive to lay off the booze, too.)
 
Need help with new supplement stack! is this safe?

Hello everyone!

I discovered recently the herbal supp world and i've made a bit of research and need some help and advice from you guys!

I'm a 25yr old male and these are my goals: Reduce sexual sensitivity (male organ sensitivity) firstly and secondly enhance performance. I also usually carry a heavy mood and would like to lighten that up.

Here is what i found in my research:


>>Stamina\sexual:

.Raw Maca powder certified organic (overall benefit)

.Dopa Mucuna (apparently decreases sensitivty of penis)
Velvet Bean Extract (Mucuna pruriens) (Seed) (min. 15% L-DOPA) - L-DOPA 120mg

.EGCg Green Tea Extract (to help with dopa mucuna)
Green Tea Extract (Camellia sinensis) (Leaf)(Standardized Extract)
(Contains 4 mg of Caffeine)[min. 98% Total Polyphenols, 80% Total
Catechins, and 50% EGCg (Epigallocatechin Gallate)(200 mg)] 400mg

---------------

>>Mood\stress:

Rhodiola: (Rhodiola rosea) (root), hydroethanolic extract (min. 5.4% total rosavins and min. 0.9% salidrosides) 300mg

Ashwagandha: Sensoril (Ashwagandha) (roots/leaves) (Withania somnifera) (8% Withanolides) 225mg

Perhaps just Rhodiola would be good enough for the mood and i think Maca also helps with that. If that is confirmed then i'd drop the Ashwagandha as i think it gives a bit of a sedative effect and i am not looking for that.

--Here are some others that i found but concluded these are only optional and i should stick with the ones above.

.Muira Puama
Muira Puama Bark 500mg

.Horny goat weed
Epimedium Aerial Parts Extract 1200mg (10 % flavonoids as icariin),

Epimedium Whole Leaf 200mg

.Ginkgo Biloba
24% flavone glycosides and 6% terpene lactones 120mg

.Tribilus 1-2x a year
Tribulus terrestris (Standardized Extract) (min. 45 % Saponins) (Aerial
Parts and Fruit)

Have i done my research right? can anyone comment on these products, safety on combining the major ones i wrote (not the optional ones).

-- Only other supps i use now are multi-vit and fish oil
 
Why would you want to decrease sensitivity? Learn to control it. I don't have a penis but... Wouldn't decreasing sensitivity decrease pleasure?
 
Thanks for the replies you two. The booze is gone for good, that I am certain about. Smoking weed has always been a harder habit to kick for me, seeing as though my group of friends all smoke weed frequently. I'm not pressured into smoking but it isn't easy to resist when all your mates are smoking bongs. I have smoked once since this brain damage came to my attention, and I found myself worrying about it too much to enjoy the high. I know that I need to stop smoking bud too.

That said I'd happily make a deal with God and give up every drug in the world if I could get my mind back. This brain fog SUCKS, and I'm just praying that whatever I have done to my brain isn't permanent. I can't even read a book at the moment. My concentration is shithouse and my eye sight is acting up as well. It seems as though the words are jumping all over the page. I don't know if that is my eyes or my brain. :(

I visited my GP yesterday and told him about the issues. He sent me to pathology to get some blood taken for some reason. When I go back I'm going to ask for a referral to a neurologist and ask if I can get an MRI or something to see if there is any visible damage. I would be very surprised if there wasn't to be honest. My drinking habits when I was binging were shocking.

The fish oil that I take at the moment has 810mg of EPA and 540mg of DHA per dose. Does that sound right? I dose once at morning and once at night.

Attempt4- I tried to send this to you as a PM, but I can't send them yet. It is nothing too personal, so I will just edit it in here.

"Hey buddy, thanks for your reply in my thread. This brain fog is killing me. I'm sure you know the feeling. It is so weird that I am getting all these effects off one relatively isolated binging session. Ah well. Hope it isn't permanent.

Thanks for the advice too. How is your brain going now? You said you've been sober since February. Thats great, nice one. Are you still feeling the effects?"
 
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The booze is gone for good, that I am certain about. Smoking weed has always been a harder habit to kick for me, seeing as though my group of friends all smoke weed frequently. I'm not pressured into smoking but it isn't easy to resist when all your mates are smoking bongs. I have smoked once since this brain damage came to my attention, and I found myself worrying about it too much to enjoy the high. I know that I need to stop smoking bud too.
If you cannot enjoy a beer responsibly (as in having a beer or two), maybe it is best to leave it alone for good, but you need to be able to enjoy yourself sometimes. ;) (Even though alcohol is technically speaking a toxin. 8)) And yeah, it is tough to resist weed when all your friends are smoking--Couldn't you offer to be the DD and take your friends some place cool after smoking?

This brain fog SUCKS, and I'm just praying that whatever I have done to my brain isn't permanent. I can't even read a book at the moment. My concentration is shithouse and my eye sight is acting up as well. It seems as though the words are jumping all over the page. I don't know if that is my eyes or my brain. :(
I hear ya--I had this issue for the longest time while smoking pot (and abusing other drugs) habitually for years. I decided to get clean and go back to school... Took about five or six months 'til I was able to read without the help of Adderall/Dexedrine. By no means am I suggesting you try stimulants (as those can fuck up your brain), but someone gave me them to see if they helped, and they did for me.

Best of luck and keep us updated. :)
 
A lot of these things don't do much at all.

I'm going to move this to Healthy Living and see if they can help you more there, they're more knowledgeable when it comes to supplements. :)

B D D - - > H L
 
Merged rz514's thread with mega which kind of messed up the flow of conversation... Oh well. Sorry folks!

Rz514, check out the first post in this mega thread as there are numerous threads on supplements in addition to this one. Welcome to BL. :)
 
Hello everyone!

I discovered recently the herbal supp world and i've made a bit of research and need some help and advice from you guys!

I'm a 25yr old male and these are my goals: Reduce sexual sensitivity (male organ sensitivity) firstly and secondly enhance performance. I also usually carry a heavy mood and would like to lighten that up.

Here is what i found in my research:


>>Stamina\sexual:

.Raw Maca powder certified organic (overall benefit)

.Dopa Mucuna (apparently decreases sensitivty of penis)
Velvet Bean Extract (Mucuna pruriens) (Seed) (min. 15% L-DOPA) - L-DOPA 120mg

.EGCg Green Tea Extract (to help with dopa mucuna)
Green Tea Extract (Camellia sinensis) (Leaf)(Standardized Extract)
(Contains 4 mg of Caffeine)[min. 98% Total Polyphenols, 80% Total
Catechins, and 50% EGCg (Epigallocatechin Gallate)(200 mg)] 400mg

---------------

>>Mood\stress:

Rhodiola: (Rhodiola rosea) (root), hydroethanolic extract (min. 5.4% total rosavins and min. 0.9% salidrosides) 300mg

Ashwagandha: Sensoril (Ashwagandha) (roots/leaves) (Withania somnifera) (8% Withanolides) 225mg

Perhaps just Rhodiola would be good enough for the mood and i think Maca also helps with that. If that is confirmed then i'd drop the Ashwagandha as i think it gives a bit of a sedative effect and i am not looking for that.

--Here are some others that i found but concluded these are only optional and i should stick with the ones above.

.Muira Puama
Muira Puama Bark 500mg

.Horny goat weed
Epimedium Aerial Parts Extract 1200mg (10 % flavonoids as icariin),

Epimedium Whole Leaf 200mg

.Ginkgo Biloba
24% flavone glycosides and 6% terpene lactones 120mg

.Tribilus 1-2x a year
Tribulus terrestris (Standardized Extract) (min. 45 % Saponins) (Aerial
Parts and Fruit)

Have i done my research right? can anyone comment on these products, safety on combining the major ones i wrote (not the optional ones).

-- Only other supps i use now are multi-vit and fish oil

the only ones of those that have any quasi-solid evidence behind them are the green tea, ginkgo, and possibly rhodiola (*none* of them would affect, say, the average american as much as even the fish oils! unless we're counting the caffeine's speediness from the gt extract)
/tribulus is incredibly bunk, i actually wrote a long, scathing piece on it for a bodybuilding board. will try to find it, and elaborate more on your choices, if you come back ;P (nothing personal, just h8 going in depth only to find the person never returned!)
((edit- since my reply doesn't leave anything good in your 'sexual' stack, i'll recommend you check out yohimbine, which is the active alkaloid from yohimbe bark. it's extremely potent compared to the other stuff you listed, so plz read up on it <or ask for more info here!> before taking it!))
 
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