Help going through suboxzone w/d?

Glittergirl32

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Where do you start?? Used to be addicted to the "H", then swapped that for subutex as that was what was around and I didnt want meth {sorry} then while living in QLD the doctor decides to change all subutex people to suboxzone, fantastic idea that was!! They didnt mention that they like to keep you on it, dont like talking about reducing and they especially dont talk about tappering. It's all about the money. I am very sorry if you are reading this, I am very angry and cynical at this time. It seems like the government likes to let the doctors and pharmasits decide what they like within reason and charge whatever they like while they dont pay for anything, feels very much like they are taking advantage of people with addictions. Makes them alot of money. Anyways enough of my angers, I am now seven to eight days off suboxzone, not doing too bad but not good either. Can anyone suggest anything to try and help me. It's the usual stuff bad anxiety, pains, cant sit still ect. Still have to function as best as possible with a five year old too!!! The doctor i had couldnt have given a rats bum, she was more worried about losing her money once a month. She told me if I go see her she will see me, but I live two hours away and have a child in prep, and all she will probebly want to do is put me back on. NO THANKSSSS............:!:!:X
 
Loperamide(anti-diarrheal pills) sounds nasty but get the pill form, take like 50mg and you'll feel great
 
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I specifically chose my doctor over the phone to make sure he would be ok with me doing most of the tapering by myself. Well really I pick my own doses/drops and I just run it by him first and he writes out w/e I need.
But I'm assuming you didn't taper? I didn't see anything in your post about it.

Would you mind giving us more specifics? Its hard to give you really catered feedback unless you mention how long you were on it and what dose, and maybe if you were using anything else when you were on the sub. And specifically what dose you dropped off of.

I find the ones that suffer the worst with sub are always the ones who come off it too quickly. You really need to taper it slow, get low, and stay low for a while so your body can somewhat get back into regulating its receptors naturally with a very small amount of sub (like .25mg or so). And if you stay low long enough, then drop off, you can make the transition as smooth as you want really. I may even go down to homeopathic dosages of my sub once I get close to dropping off. Theres no reason I'd want to put my body/mind through any uneccessary suffering.

Did you actually want to come off the sub? Maybe if its too tough find a more sympathetic dr and taper as slow as possible? You shouldn't have to go through too much discomfort and you should have a dr check your blood pressure at least once a week when you are tapering. People can be thrown into a hypertensive crisis coming off opiates (like me) and that will really aggravate wds unless you are prescribed a blood pressure med. Is your dr monitoring your blood pressure? And please tell us about your dosages, thank you.
 
The suboxone industry really aggravates the shit out of me.

Most of my childhood friends take it and are being extorted for lack of a nastier word to describe the situation.

I don't know if this was just a 'thrill-of-the-moment' kind of post or if you plan on updating us. Feel free to msg me and I'll do my best to keep your attention and give you my utmost support.

<3
 
^What Wolfmans Bro said....

Get some loperamide. Its a miracle drug for me every time. I've been at home since saturday night after my last dose of Opana 40 mg ran out. I binged pretty heavily for me this time, a little over a month straight of roughly 120mgs a day. I rode this out as long as I could, then at 5am this morning came the bubble guts and constant trips to the toilet. This I can't handle, as I don't like being dehydrated and puny feeling.

So jumped in the truck and off to Walmart for 2 bottles of 72 count generic lope and a bottle of diphenhydramine for tonights sleep, as I haven't had hardly an hour all weekend. Already getting the auditory hallucinations and other weirdness that goes along with sleep deprevation. And also 2 protein bars. All for about 18 bucks.

Anyway as soon as I got to my truck I eat around 86 mgs lope and chug 20 ozs of water and proceed to the office in Stone Mtn. and then back home, which was roughly 2 hrs. By then I felt good enough to go shopping for groceries, and I even tanned at the salon which felt pretty damn good. When I got home I even took a swim in the pool which wouldn't have crossed my mind earlier this day.

My point is get some loperamide, find your dose, and don't suffer through bouts of aches, pains, and chills for no reason. I don't know how many times I put myself through hell all these years, sitting at home, missing work, shittin and pukin my guts inside out when there was a cheap relief available virtually everywhere around me.

This stuff really works and I don't care about the stigma of taking a diarrhea medicine for relief. To quote PhreeX, this stuff really is the OTC methadone.
 
Yeh loperamide is great I just find a lot of people will underdose it, not get an effect then claim it doesn't work. Sometimes you need to play around with the dose and remember it takes lope 3 hours to kick in. I would usually take it before bed and notice I felt much better in the morning.

One more thing about lope is its a powerful constipater. Just as bad if not worse than suboxone. And along with constipation can come horrible headaches. If you get headaches from high doses of lope, space out your dosing more and they will ease up. I had started taking it every day, and as having horrible mind crushing headaches by day 3, I started dosing every other day and then it worked great and headaches went away. It also improves your mood just because you feel physically better, although it doesn't do much in terms of a high (although some people will say otherwise).
 
Just keep in mind high doses of lope on the regular will only prolong the w.d

Also don't take it 2 days in a row
 
I specifically chose my doctor over the phone to make sure he would be ok with me doing most of the tapering by myself. Well really I pick my own doses/drops and I just run it by him first and he writes out w/e I need.
But I'm assuming you didn't taper? I didn't see anything in your post about it.

Would you mind giving us more specifics? Its hard to give you really catered feedback unless you mention how long you were on it and what dose, and maybe if you were using anything else when you were on the sub. And specifically what dose you dropped off of.

I find the ones that suffer the worst with sub are always the ones who come off it too quickly. You really need to taper it slow, get low, and stay low for a while so your body can somewhat get back into regulating its receptors naturally with a very small amount of sub (like .25mg or so). And if you stay low long enough, then drop off, you can make the transition as smooth as you want really. I may even go down to homeopathic dosages of my sub once I get close to dropping off. Theres no reason I'd want to put my body/mind through any uneccessary suffering.

Did you actually want to come off the sub? Maybe if its too tough find a more sympathetic dr and taper as slow as possible? You shouldn't have to go through too much discomfort and you should have a dr check your blood pressure at least once a week when you are tapering. People can be thrown into a hypertensive crisis coming off opiates (like me) and that will really aggravate wds unless you are prescribed a blood pressure med. Is your dr monitoring your blood pressure? And please tell us about your dosages, thank you.

Dont worry I was pretty stupid, had enough of the doctor always saying she will help knowing the situation and then doing nothing, sick of being a slave so to speak to gov, chemist, ect, Sorry am very cinicial ATM, I did a tiny taper, was on 4mg daily how stupid is that?? Anyways got last dose on thursday,so had them on friday i think but only one, I think I stashed two 2mg tablets and managed to make them last until the wednesday, that was two weeks ago today. Have been in constant contact with PAMS advocy, asking advice just having someone to talk to. They have been fantastic, and offered to talk to the doctor I went and saw to help me get some tramadol and vals just for pain and anxiety. This was a new doctor for me as I refuse to go back to the other one and am very angry, cant believe how she can be a doctor?? This new doctor was very good and gave me the stuff not a prob, I'm going back to see him Friday for a "ladys" check whatever fun that is!!!
I was never using anything else besides the suboxzone and had probably been on it for about two years. We live in the country, my partner and I both dont work atm, and had to travel two to three hours every three weeks to Melbourne to see this doctor that you just had to sit and wait and sometimes we didnt get out of there until 11pm, even midnight once or twice, and she knew we have a five year old no compassion, all about the $$$$. Alot of this is for my daughter she deserves a drug free mother and the best possible life I can give her, eg, me going back to work once better. I am just really sick of feeling like a slave to them all and they call all the shots no matter weather your trying or not. Our doctor especially seemed more interested in those that wanted scripts and lots of them!!
Dont worry I dont ever recommened anyone just jumping off suby ever, it is very powerful, I think even more than we know!!
 
The suboxone industry really aggravates the shit out of me.

Most of my childhood friends take it and are being extorted for lack of a nastier word to describe the situation.

I don't know if this was just a 'thrill-of-the-moment' kind of post or if you plan on updating us. Feel free to msg me and I'll do my best to keep your attention and give you my utmost support.

<3

Dont worry my friend this is the reason I am now two weeks clean off the suboxzone, have had alot of help from a place called PAMS, it's an advocy and very good listener and advice too.
I truly believe this is a very dangerous drug and not everything is known about it. I hope I haven't offended you in any way.
I had enough of being a slave to the doctors, chemists, and most of all that government, my blood boils, and having talked to Pams has helped me alot, they help with chemists, doctors, ect that like to be difficult, it doesnt really matter what it is they seem to have the information.
 
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