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Substance induced psychosis or Schizophrenia?

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Psychedelic_Shock

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Hi fellow people, I come here because I seek closure in what exactly is wrong with me. I understand it is probably best for me to go to a psychiatrist or ask someone in the professional field, but I don't feel that is necessary. Whatever I have does not affect me at all i when I am sober.

Just about last week, I used a gas mask which was loaded with some potent cannabis. I only smoked two bowls, but I took very strong, long hits. After about 10 minutes, I had full blown hallucinations. I was watching one frame of my life being repeated for an infinite number of years. Although that doesn't sound believable, there's no better way I can describe it. During this lifetime, I was repeating to myself all the lies and all the bullshit I am worth. I am normally not self conscious, but this kept repeating throughout this entire state. I also wanted to die, not because I felt I was worthless, but because I haven't slept for an infinite number of years. This exact frame is what I have seen on my last marijuana induced psychosis and quite similar to my psychosis during one of my LSD and shrooms experiences. During this state, I go from extreme euphoria to extreme dysphoria, and once I each dysphoria it lasts for what seems like eternity. Although this stage only actually lasts for 10 minutes, I awake from the experience completely confused and extremely paranoid. It feels like the worst feeling in life(or at least in my subjective experience). During this psychosis, I have no control over my mind or actions and I don't even realize I'm a person. It's as if my ego gets compressed into a single atom and gets pushed to the back of my mind while I watch in horror what I hallucinate. According to my friend(He supervises me), I start talking to myself saying that I am god and then saying I want to die. However, after about an hour, I come back to earth with my mind and ego completely intact.

I do not know what I have or why I have it. I have done psychedelics plenty of times where I have had good, even great introspective trips. I thought that I should at least not experience some sort of psychosis with cannabis, a substance many consider a 'female genital' in comparison to the drug world. I am wondering if I can somehow control this or if I am doomed for the rest of my life with this curse. I am unsure if there is a chance that I "never come back". If anyone has ever experienced anything like this or can give me insightful responses, please respond.
 
Does mental illness run in your family? how long have you been smoking ( and other drugs ) for? how often?

Id suggest stopping now. there is a chance that things will mellow out.
give it a few weeks without using anything then see a doctor. ( if you feel you may be a harm to yourself or others go now )

drug induced psychosis can pass, but i found this mainly with just stimulants.
 
Not that I know of, though I suspect there might be something unusual in my dad's side of my family since I have heard some really fucked up things.

I have not used any psychedelics for a few months. If I decide to use amphetamines, psychedelics or MDMA I always space them out for as long as I can so I can make the most use of it when I do take them. Generally I do not take opiates or benzos unless it's for experimental purposes. I also have not drank in a few months. I do not smoke cannabis anymore because of the extreme paranoia and anxiety I get. I just don't want negative experiences after seeing the potential of psychedelics. Personally, I have never experienced anything negative with amphetamines and I actually experience the dopamine pleasure and even the temporary ego inflation. I don't understand why cannabis effects me the way it does. Do I lack sufficient self control or is it an actual mental condition?
 
Sounds like drug induced psychosis, and that the weed is exacerbating an underlying mental illness. Unless you're lying it doesn't sound like schizophrenia because that would definitely be affecting you when you're sober as well. I don't really smoke weed, but some of the times that I have have resulted in paranoia and anxiety. I suffer from depression and am most likely bipolar along with other things so I know this is why. If I smoke with xanax then I don't get the symptoms, but I hardly ever smoke weed anyways and when I do it isn't very much. I would just stop doing whatever is causing you to have these episodes.
 
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I'd say you have a disposition towards mental illness, that's why your obviously prone to abusing every substance under the sun (looking at your other threads). Your likely to have this problem anyway, although perhaps some of the harder core substances you are using / abusing are aggravating things.

You need to stay away from ALL drugs.
 
I have seen some develop full blown Psychosis from LSD abuse/over use that was triggered by lesser potent substances, even alcohol..I have seen one man drown during a Psychotic episode( not while high but sober however he developed psychosis after prolonged use- he was in his late 20's ATT- not that old). Not scaremongering but you rarely hear the other side of the coin and it is factual.
Please dont think that anything is the holy fucking grail especially if you are gambling your mental health because of it.
Stay away from substances for the time being, be patient and give yourself time to get over your ordeal that you had posted in Trip-reports. A trip of that potency(as you posted in TR) could take a long time to get over mentally and you seem oblivious to being aware of this, which is concerning.
Look after youself.
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If I must wait some more time to get this ordeal fixed, I will do just that. I don't understand what some of you guys mean when I say I "abuse" drugs when I do them. I do them as responsibly as they should be done and I move on after I am done experimenting. I will admit that I have some sort of mental issue, but it only lasts as long as the duration of the substance(if a psychosis is triggered in the first place). I always somehow manage to break out of it later and sort out any mental baggage. I appreciate the input though and I thank you guys for your responses.
 
Psychedelic_Shock said:
I don't understand what some of you guys mean when I say I "abuse" drugs when I do them. I do them as responsibly as they should be done and I move on after I am done experimenting.
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Lol doing large ammounts of psychedelics when you know it aggravates your mental problems isn't exactly responsible.
 
The times I have done large amount of psychedelics, I had no idea that I had any mental problems. The fact that I would even have one seemed ridiculous because I had lucid experiences prior to my first psychotic episode.

It is definitely just cannabis. I have smoked marijuana twice from completely different sources and had identical results. Most people don't have problems with it, but it is a very powerful catalyst to those who are sensitive to it.
 
I guess cannabis has been found to slightly increase your chance of getting schizophrenia. Probably after long time use. But if you are already at risk due to genetics (you might know or not know whether you are) I would greatly advise you to stop psychedelics. I have been inpatient in a hospital for depression and there were people there who lost their minds after use of these substances and they were in their own worlds for whatever time I dunno. One was a medical student.
 
I don't have any family history of mental illness, but I know that I have it or at least exhibit signs of it.

I smoked marijuana for about a decade and have used mushrooms about 11 times. I never had a bad trip. However with weed, it eventually exacerbated a psychosis that was developing as a result of stopping a four year addiction to Effexor.

I ended up making a mess out of my social life, scaring my family and getting committed for a good month. It was pure, maniacal psychosis. Very scary to know that my mind can break that badly.

I lost a good number of friends, a semester of college and a lot of my dignity. If you're already experiencing symptoms, stop now before it's too late, before you're locked in a ward and tranquilized to a nearly unconscious state.
 
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