Stimulants Some questions I have about meth.

[bumbarash]

Sleeping 3 hours, wake-up and feel no power in body. Maybe I need eat? But I don't want at all

Will I expect crash later? E.g sleeping 12 hours per day etc... ?
tommorow I need go to work and work all week.

Why another people like meth? Yes, its very good, extremely good, I like it, but big BUT.... crash after very bad

 

[ziggo]

dude you did a freaking gram, you should try to snort like 1/10th of a gram if it's decent and without alcohol.

 

[Juice.]

Speaking as a former meth addict, once you've done meth, your brain will never forget how rewarding it feels. The memory of the cascading release of ungodly amounts of dopamine will never leave your brain. I've been off meth for 6 months now, and although I don't intend to ever do meth again, I'll still occasionally dream about it or get impulsive urges to do it, especially when it's being offered to me for free. You have to override your primal dopaminergic urges with logic and sense, which is hard to do sometimes.

I can only speak for myself, but I was able to maintain a normal life fairly well when I was doing meth once every couple of weeks (I started off with the same mindset as you). But once it became a 2-3 times a week kind of thing, I got kicked out of college, lost my job, lost my scholarship, lost some friends, and I was NOT able to feel normal without meth. The days I wasn't on meth were hell for me and everyone around me.

 

[bumbarash]

I don't know how much I bought.
I don't know how clean it was.
No overdosage simptoms were discovered.

So if I will take once per month I will be addicted too?
I will not take it often

 

[Juice.]

There are *plenty* of more toxic drugs than methamphetamine. You may not have heard of all of them, but MDMA and ethanol are more toxic than methamphetamine. I'm sure you've heard of those two.

MDMA is not more toxic than methamphetamine. Not to the dopamine or serotonergic systems. Don't spread misinformation.

The Neurotoxic Effects of 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA) and Methamphetamine on Serotonin, Dopamine, and GABA-ergic Terminals

"The results showed that METH was more toxic to 5-HT terminals than MDMA in forebrain regions, including the anterior cingulate, caudate nucleus, nucleus accumbens, and septum. METH was also more toxic than MDMA to dopamine terminals in the habenula, and posterior retrosplenial cortex. Therefore, we find that METH was more toxic to 5-HT and dopamine terminals in specific brain regions in both pre and post-synaptic sites following continuous equimolar dosing."

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Methamphetamines have far more negative side effects on both the body and brain then for example MDMA does... and smoking itself may be toxic but the substance nicotine is not even half as destructive as the substance methamphetamine. I personally believe that we cannot really have such a thing as responsibly using drugs because every time that we use a psychoactive substance there is a risk of doing harm to the mind or body. perhaps it would also be best not to look at what is most toxic or most responsible way of using a substance but to look at your personal situation and the consequenses that your drug using has on that situation.

While you can say "nicotine itself isn't as destructive as methamphetamine", this is ignoring the fact that you don't buy nicotine by itself; no one who uses it does this.

Methamphetamine used properly shouldn't be destructive. What's destructive is binging on any stimulant (methamphetamine is just one stimulant which will do this to a person), and then consequentially ignore eating, sleeping, hygiene, and so on. You could also do this with nicotine.

MDMA is not more toxic than methamphetamine. Not to the dopamine or serotonergic systems. Don't spread misinformation.

Toxicity isn't just limited to 5-HT and DA receptors though. I didn't address anything specifically such as these systems.

Quoting one study on MDMA's neurotoxicity isn't going to convince anyone of anything, as there is widely contradicting results in many studies.

 

[Ralt]

I've smoked meth like four or five times, and I don't really give a flying fuck about it. It's fine, it feels just like d-amp to me, but I know it's more dangerous, so why fucking bother? I feel this way about most stimulants though, they just don't do it for me. When I had 10grams of MDPV my roommates were the ones who consumed the majority of it, I'd maybe do one or two bumps in the morning, while they would smoke that shit all day everyday and night. YMMV.

 

[travelaroundNC]

As for me - yeah. I love meth! It is my favorite substance. But fortunately for me, it is really not available where I live so i end up partying all night with meth all night maybe once or twice a year when I travel and am able to hook up with someone out of town. And then it is one wild awesome time. No - i do not think about it day and night. But maybe if it were readily available where I live I could become an addict. Yeah - you need to be very careful but I for one can say I party with meth once or twice a year and that's it.

 

[Fixed5217]

I've smoked meth like four or five times, and I don't really give a flying fuck about it. It's fine, it feels just like d-amp to me, but I know it's more dangerous, so why fucking bother? I feel this way about most stimulants though, they just don't do it for me. When I had 10grams of MDPV my roommates were the ones who consumed the majority of it, I'd maybe do one or two bumps in the morning, while they would smoke that shit all day everyday and night. YMMV.

I have a similar opinion, which is pretty neutral regarding meth. I've only tried smoking it a few times(different ranges of use). It does feel just about like d-amp insufflated.

But like any harder stimulant, I see it as a tool of sorts--and to me the cons of using, i.e. body load, loss of appetite, amp headaches--severe trouble sleeping--they only outweigh the pro's of using in certain situations.

I like both, but if I did neither again, that would be perfectly fine with me.

It's enjoyable but def not by DOC, and I have a hard time understanding why they would be for someone[I mean i do, amps help with focus during the day and on meth your able to get weeks worth of stuff done--I do see the allure and have caught the euphoria, I just hate the cons].

 

[ziggo]

You'll see why it becomes peoples doc if you shoot enough up. (don't please unless you have already, it's a totally different drug.)

 

[love2party]

The majority of people that try meth will not get addicted. I can use it every once in a while and I know alot of other people that are the same way. I'm not saying you should go out and do it, but I think people overestimate it's addiction potential.

 

[Mr-Tambourine-Man]

I'd have to disagree with those that say meth isn't instantly addicting. It certainly was for me and is for many. Stimulants, and meth in particular, are the only drugs I can think of that cause intense withdrawal and craving after a single administration. Ok, so a meth come-down may not meet all the technical criteria for withdrawal but I think the distinction is trivial. Even a single use of meth can result in severe cravings, physical discomfort and intense depression. For some, it is absolute psychological torture to go through the meth experience. Basically, you take the drug and you don't feel altered in the traditional sense, you feel more sober than sober, like superman. Everything in your life makes so much sense and you feel connected to everyone, confident, empowered, witty, productive, euphoric... then the ball drops. Out of nowhere everything about yourself and your life that you were so proud of evaporates. Suddenly you realize it was all an illusion and you're really a total loser. This sudden shift of thinking is too much for some people and the desire to redose becomes unbearable. Any drug that creates an immediate withdrawal effect that can last 10+ hours is not to be toyed with. You will respect it, or it will whoop that ass.

 

[Juice.]

Basically, you take the drug and you don't feel altered in the traditional sense, you feel more sober than sober, like superman. Everything in your life makes so much sense and you feel connected to everyone, confident, empowered, witty, productive, euphoric... then the ball drops. Out of nowhere everything about yourself and your life that you were so proud of evaporates. Suddenly you realize it was all an illusion and you're really a total loser. This sudden shift of thinking is too much for some people and the desire to redose becomes unbearable. Any drug that creates an immediate withdrawal effect that can last 10+ hours is not to be toyed with. You will respect it, or it will whoop that ass.

This is the most accurate description of an amphetamine high, and subsequent comedown I've ever read. Nicely put.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I think Mr. Tambourine Man's post relatively reflects the individual differences when people begin addictions; meth can be really addictive for some people, and is considered to be one of the most addictive drugs that is commonly used today.

It wasn't a problem for me, and I had a lot more self control with the drug than I did when I used heroin, but overall, I would prefer to still be careful with meth, it's not a drug to be taken lightly or abused.

 

[MrKitty2]

Id agree most people cannot function on it. I have and still use it without binging and fucking my life up. Used for over 10 years now and i only shoot it but i dont shoot anymore than 100mg at most at a time, I dont shoot for the rush just for the instant high and not tweaking on smokin it or chopping it. I also get a much longer more intense high from shooting it.

IF YOU DONT IV, THEN DONT IV THIS.
you wont enjoy any method after injection, IMO.. not always true tho

 

[Sweet P]

I've known some people who can use meth now-and-then without developing an addiction, and they can hold down decent jobs and live normal lives. As long as they sleep, eat, and don't use large quantities, they can seem just like normal people. Especially if they snort or parachute the drug, which are less addictive methods than smoking or IV'ing. The whole "one hit and your life is over!" line isn't always true. Occasional meth use requires a lot of self control though! It's one of the most addictive substances around, if not the most addictive. I should know... it sunk its claws into me years ago and hasn't let go!

Basically, you take the drug and you don't feel altered in the traditional sense, you feel more sober than sober, like superman. Everything in your life makes so much sense and you feel connected to everyone, confident, empowered, witty, productive, euphoric... then the ball drops. Out of nowhere everything about yourself and your life that you were so proud of evaporates. Suddenly you realize it was all an illusion and you're really a total loser. This sudden shift of thinking is too much for some people and the desire to redose becomes unbearable. Any drug that creates an immediate withdrawal effect that can last 10+ hours is not to be toyed with. You will respect it, or it will whoop that ass.

Good description. I agree... the high from meth seems to "enhance" things, rather than being an escape from reality. This can be its greatest trap. It feels so positive at the time, and it's very tempting to repeat the experience, thinking meth will improve your life. But once the addiction kicks in, the drug completely takes over. Nothing else matters except scoring and getting high (and getting high becomes more difficult as your tolerance increases from the very first hit).

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Id agree most people cannot function on it. I have and still use it without binging and fucking my life up. Used for over 10 years now and i only shoot it but i dont shoot anymore than 100mg at most at a time, I dont shoot for the rush just for the instant high and not tweaking on smokin it or chopping it. I also get a much longer more intense high from shooting it.

IF YOU DONT IV, THEN DONT IV THIS.
you wont enjoy any method after injection, IMO.. not always true tho

I haven't tried meth orally, but ignoring that it can be taken orally, I wouldn't use it again if I wasn't IVing it.

 

[IVXLCDM]

IV'ing any stimulant on a regular basis is just putting extreme stress on your heart. I have had first hand experience with this because I used to IV meth for a short time, but I preferred IV cocaine (and speedballs ), which I used for a couple years. Eventually it caught up to me and got my heart checked out by a doctor, luckily I was fine, I can't say it will be the same for others .

 

[Ravr]

I use to chill with this one guy who used to use it. Whenever he took too much of it, he had a chemical smell on him. He used to even take showers like 3 times yet nada, the smell remained. I am curious, how do you guys deal with that smell/ get rid of it?

 

[Keebs]

I use to chill with this one guy who used to use it. Whenever he took too much of it, he had a chemical smell on him. He used to even take showers like 3 times yet nada, the smell remained. I am curious, how do you guys deal with that smell/ get rid of it?

I have been smoking meth more or less nonstop since posting this thread, just in one never-ending binge. I have not once noticed a lingering "chemical smell" on me, nor has anyone mentioned such a stench on me or my clothes even.

Meth (or at least, my meth) when smoked releases this really, really, distinct 'burning rubber' smell. It smells like a tire-fire or something, .. maybe this one guy just smoked it over duration in a small room or space, then just loitered around the smoke..? Just an idea.