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HOW TO QUIT SMOKING ~ Mega Thread

The patch might work, but it works without the patch just as fine. In the end, it's all about the mental struggle, really, what for pay them money for keeping yourself physically addicted to nicotine?
 
I did not read the whole thread.

My mother is over 50 years old. She has been smoking ~40 a day for about 30 years constantly.

She went to the doc to quit smoking and was given CHAMPIX.

My mother is not the most stable woman in the world and is prone to depression and breakdowns. And to compound she just lost her brother.

From what I've read this stuff can cause depression and anxiety and bad things that I know she wouldnt be able to handle.

I want to know if you guys think its a good idea her taking this stuff?

I was going to suggest nicotene patches and some kind of benzo. Knowing the woman as I do I think this would be a better idea. But I'm not a doctor.
 
Quitting smoking using CHAMPIX advice

My mother is over 50 years old. She has been smoking ~40 a day for about 30 years constantly.

She went to the doc to quit smoking and was given CHAMPIX.

My mother is not the most stable woman in the world and is prone to depression and breakdowns. And to compound she just lost her brother.

From what I've read this stuff can cause depression and anxiety and bad things that I know she wouldnt be able to handle.

I want to know if you guys think its a good idea her taking this stuff?

I was going to suggest nicotene patches and some kind of benzo. Knowing the woman as I do I think this would be a better idea. But I'm not a doctor.
 
This is exactly what I am thinking.

What would you recommend?



EDIT: I fear for the woman. I know stopping smoking the wrong way will kill her. Cold turkey would.
 
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from what I know, my brother taking this he said his depression felt worse, as did suicidal thoughts, he never done it but was on the phone a lot as he was stressed and thought about suicide more than what he had done in years. It did work and he stopped smoking and that was last year, but he said if I knew anyone who maybe suicidal I should highly recommend not taking it.
so passing on what he said only as I have never taken it and have no experience with it personally, wish your mum loads of luck and hope she has lots of support <3
 
I did. Check the times.

Im just not a fan of megathreads. Yea they keep the place clean but they hinder people getting the right help and answers IMO. Anyway thanks for all the help :)
 
addictivepersona said:
^ Woooo, congrats! :D

How's it feel? By now you should be done coughing up the black gunk and breathing a little easier. :)
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I'd say the best part about us quitting is the smug sense of self satisfaction when we hear our roommates coughing in the morning, clearing their lungs. That, and we can sustain decently long bike rides these days, which is great :)

EDIT: I fear for the woman. I know stopping smoking the wrong way will kill her. Cold turkey would.
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That's bull dude. the "wrong way" is the way that doesn't take, because what really kills you is smoking, not quitting. If cold turkey works, then cold turkey it is! If its chamtix, then its chamtix.

I'm two months quit on just like 4 days of nicorette gum, and just chewing gum after that. It has been the least complicated and least costly kick I've ever undertaken. I had been on zyban and valium before, tried the patch and the gum, tried CBT therapy, et cetera. Keep trying things until something takes— and don't discount any method because of potential side effects until you've experienced them.
 
Glad to hear you're doing well, Pander! Isn't that an awesome (albeit smug ;)) feeling? It's almost like "Wow, I don't sound like that anymore!"

And being able to bike distances is always a plus in my book. :) I know I couldn't do three miles last year without it nearly making me pass out. Just did 20 miles last night. :D

ChainsawWilliams said:
I did. Check the times.

Im just not a fan of megathreads. Yea they keep the place clean but they hinder people getting the right help and answers IMO. Anyway thanks for all the help :)
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No matter where you post something, giving people two hours to respond is a pretty short time frame. 8)
 
It was a lot longer than 2 hours. I went out drinking so it was at least 10? if not 12? But thats nonsense and not the point who cares.


Pander; I completely get where you're coming from. I'm worrying about what could happen. It's like worrying about getting run over. It could happen.

But I think worrying about what could happen. Is harm reduction at its very core.
 
ChainsawWilliams said:
It was a lot longer than 2 hours. I went out drinking so it was at least 10? if not 12? But thats nonsense and not the point who cares.
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Ahaha, ooops, you're right. I saw 11:19 and 00:43 for the times and thought you posted at 11:19 at night and then 12:43 in the morning. You'd think I'd be used to this military time system by now. 8(

Sorry man, hope you get the answer you're looking for. I don't think she has much to worry about with going cold turkey, but that's just me.
 
No worries dude. The only reason I was sure is because I dont tend to just go on the piss for 2 hours :)

Thanks for all the help guys.
 
ChainsawWilliams said:
EDIT: I fear for the woman. I know stopping smoking the wrong way will kill her. Cold turkey would.
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I think this is a legitimate concern, I don't see why the mod called it "bullshit."

There's a world of difference between getting one's life cut short by smoking (which isn't a certainty either; I read only 50% of smokers die of related illness) and dying abruptly of things like suicide.

Myself, I'm going for a record. That is, with number of attempts it is taking me to quit for good. I think I am on my 8th or 9th try, haha. Smoked about 15 years, but started trying to quit aggressively at end of last year. I've been through Zyban, NRT, opioids (yes they work temporarily, till I stop taking them, lol) Easyway, now I'm on my third or so attempt C/T.

I've never tried Chantix myself due to the debilitating depression I've had before, even using Zyban. My average quit duration has been about 2 weeks or so, up to a month, and I'm not sure why I start again. I know it's a slippery slope after having just one cig and complacency is not a problem.

I think the key for many is to force yourself to exercise to get over the depression. That and read Allen Carr's book to get you over the brainwashing. I agree with many others that the actual physical w/d is negligible if you can get past any depression you may (or may not) experience. I'll consider myself successful when I quit for a year, but it doesn't hurt to keep trying if you fail like I do. Eventually I'll get tired of this shit and quit for good. Hopefully I'll be back in about 51 weeks and post that I was successful this time :\
 
^ Quitting isn't about being quit for 51 weeks--Which is a hell of a long time! Quitting is about not smoking today. Made it through today? Sweet, now that it's another "today," make it through this one. So on and so forth, until you're beyond the need to "make it through the day" without a cigarette. You can do it!

And I totally agree about Allen Carr's book. Totally worth the price of two packs of cigarettes. :P
 
THE EASYWAY BOOKS BY ALLEN CARR WORKED FOR ME. TRY IT. IF IT DOESN'T WORK THE FIST TIME. READ IT AS MANY TIMES AS YOU NEED. fOR ME IT WAS 3.
 
addictivepersona said:
^ Quitting isn't about being quit for 51 weeks--Which is a hell of a long time! Quitting is about not smoking today. Made it through today? Sweet, now that it's another "today," make it through this one. So on and so forth, until you're beyond the need to "make it through the day" without a cigarette. You can do it!

And I totally agree about Allen Carr's book. Totally worth the price of two packs of cigarettes. :P
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Touche.

Just mentioning that I've failed so many times that I don't claim success until it has been at least 1 year. Right now I'm only on 1 week, leaving 51 weeks before I feel satisfied that I've kicked successfully. This time I actually reached out and posted so I'm doing something new at least. And I know I won't smoke TODAY, like you mention is the only way to be sure. I'll try to stay active with this thread, too. I really want this to be the final attempt. :) Thanks for your encouraging words.
 
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